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give it a rest already - god you give me a headache.
by LCD on Wed Aug 09, 06 10:48pm
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Voted : Violence goes against Buddhist teachings
Buddhism and terrorism have no place together.
Well let's see; terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with religion and is caused by being poor (check) oppressed (check) and unable to fight back on an equal playing field (double check). So there are two options, 1) china is racked with terrorism from tibet, but they've so thoroughly kept it under wraps that we've heard nothing of it, which is unlikely given that they've never bothered keeping their persecution and murder of theists before. Or 2) religion does play a factor and they are not becoming terrorists because it is not in their religion/culture to do so, which would mean that there is something deeply flawed in the islamic world that allows them to so easily turn to terrorism.
LCD, will you admit that he has a point?
For some reason terrorism only seems to exist on such a grande scale among muslim communities, no others. Even though islamic nations are hardly the only ones that can claim to be oppressed, poor or weak. I think it's obvious that religion does play a role, wouldn't you say?
"give it a rest already - god you give me a headache."
by LCD on Aug 09, 2006 10:48pm
Sorry LCD, I'll try for somthing on President Bush next time. Or perhaps you would prefer another ballot on Republicans, Iraq or maybe the 9/11 conspiracy cover-up?
I don't sit around making ballots about the same topic ad nausium.
first 10 was interesting.
next 100 was tolerated.
now it's just blah blah blah, if I cover you with a sheet maybe you'll go to sleep and stop squawking.
sorry, but that's how I feel.
try being more diverse in your topics.
by LCD on Wed Aug 09, 06 11:18pm
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Is that a demand?
I guess you haven't been reading all my ballots lately, have you? Take a day off LCD.
Nothing is inherently wrong with Islam, it's how people have been interpreting its teachings for hundreds of years that results in the apparently higher number of Muslim terrorists than most other religions. At least, that's what would make sense to me. I'm no expert on Islam.
There are Tibetan Muslims too.Why dont they blow up themselves?
Hmmm, so what you're basically saying is the opressed should just keep their mouths shut and hide their head in the sand like an Ostritch? Basically what you seem to be saying is that peoples that are opressed and brutalized by a stronger force should allow it to continue. Interesting. So applying that logic, Colonial Americans were in fact terrorists for rising up to fight the British? So when Nazi Germany invaded France, the people of the French resistance were basically terrorists? So you think that the Frency resistance fighters should have done nothing?
Wow! I pray that you are never on the side of weakness and that you never have to live under any kind of opression, foreign or domestic.
By the way, I agree with LCD. You're not winning anyone over to your way of thinking...you're actually making people tune your message out because its too much already. Enough is right.
Reading the commnents on this ballot by you and Herzog really do prove that you are so out of touch with reality, its kind of scary. So lets just accept that the early Americans were terrorists, as were the French resistance.
Funny though...how many "freedom fighters" has the United States armed and encouraged to overthrow their respective governments? See the point? And we wonder why most of the world hates us. Not hard to see why.
Question to Jinn and Herzog. Since you both seem to think you have the answers, your assignment is to outline, if full detail, just how you thing the opressed should stand up for themselves and change their situation. Give that we know that the UN and the EU and the USA have yet to be able to bring about any kind of political or diplomatic solution, please do the work they have failed and offer up, in this ballot, a full and detailed plan for peace. Thanks! I'll forward it on to all the major world powers so they can implement your wise words and plan. You guys are the best! :)
How would you know if they did? China keeps a lock on the media and suppresses virtually all bad news.
Jinn -- Why are you plagiarizing old Socrates ballots? 
LCD: Son, are you having a bad day?
I guess god gives him a headache! 
So anyway, back to the ballot.
For all the people who claim terrorism has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with poverty, oppression and helplessness, how do you explain this? Or the fact that millions (billions?) of people fit in that category and yet only the islamic world seems to produce terrorist networks to such an extent.
Why can't anyone directly address this issue? What is it about this question that makes liberals go in to blind attack mode, putting all their meager energy in to avoiding the question and attacking the person asking the question? Perhaps there's something worth looking in to there.
Of course no one will, someone will chime in with 'racist' or how evil the Israelis are, how the US deserves it, bush is hitler, etc etc, everything but a real answer.
Cathexis- I have never made such a ballot before.
patch- that is not what the Tibetans are doing. They are trying to use non-violent resistance to push for: 1) Human rights and 2) Push for federalism in China in which Tibet would be granted much autonomy. Some push for full independence, but others do not see that as necessary if their cultural identity is respected and if China respects human rights- then they are willing to live in the frameworks of such a China.
You might say that they have been 'too passive' by not using violence. That is not true- they have been very assertive using non-violence.
patch- the above was in response to your comment that "Hmmm, so what you're basically saying is the opressed should just keep their mouths shut and hide their head in the sand like an Ostritch?" , which implied that the Tibetans are not doing anything to stand up for themselves. They are standing up for themselves, just non-violently.
What ever.
patch22us- the above is what I mean when I say I get the impression that you dislike the pacifist philosophy.
I really got the impression that comment: "Hmmm, so what you're basically saying is the opressed should just keep their mouths shut and hide their head in the sand like an Ostritch?" to be offensive to Tibetans, because it describes it as if they are not resisting at all. That's not true, they are active.
Because they are more civilized
Herzog, as well you know, terrorism is a problem that uses religion to brainwash and motivate people to achieve political goals. With this in mind it is pertinent to remember that terrorism requires a huge influx of money (something that the Lama class refuse to filter back to the piss-poor populace).
An uprising would be instantly and totally squashed by the Chinese - its not worth the effort or the waste of cash.
Poverty and oppression are key in breeding the kind of minds susceptible to programming for terrorist attacks but the Dalai Lama simply does not have the financial clout to prepare and maintain any kind of paramilitary action.
You forget that Billionaire oil families like the House of Saud, the Bin Ladens and countless others pour cash back into terrorist activities with great relish.
As did the PLO with the $billions$ they recieved from around the world, which was intended to help the impovershed Palestinian people, not arm them.
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