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We have Harvest Sunday in the UK, and its very dull.
If the real version is taught, however, it should also include how those native to the Americas had treated other peace loving tribes many years before, systematically slaughtering them, wholesale extinction, genocide, etc.
I am frustrated when I hear people talk about how poorly American Indians were treated by western Europeans upon their arrival to the "New World", when there are a lot of facts that point to some horrific atrocities committed by the American Indians themselves.
Not saying that makes it right, but the idea of the 'innocent American Indian' is really just as much of a farce as the 'innocent friendly Pilgrim'.
The real one.
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Jappy, your entire comment is bullshit. Its interesting how non-Native Americans try to justify their slaughter, their genocide, their illegal seizure of land because "some" Native American tribes may have done so. There wasn't wholesale slaughter constantly going on in North and South America PRIOR to the white settlers arriving. However, their was GENOCIDE, wholesale slaughter, murder, illegal seizure of land happening on a much broader scale in the so-called "civilized" Europeans.
Anything the Native Americans did to each other pales by comparison to what white Europeans did when they arrived or what they did to each other before they came.
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And then I wondered what happened between then and the Western Expansion, until I grew up and had the real stories told to me...
I never slaughtered anyone, so I'm not involved on one side or the other, so the idea that I'm justifying it based on something I did is incorrect.
And yes, it did happen. There were entire peace loving tribes decimated, as in every last one man, woman, and child killed, by other American Indian tribes.
In practice, the genocide label is often haphazardly applied, rarely without bias, and is sometimes used to describe an overwhelming (though lawful) military defeat.
That being said, massacres were sometimes mislabeled "battles" in an attempt to give legitimacy to what would today be considered a war crime.
I'm not saying that either side was correct. But your response would infer that you believe that there were no American Indian tribes who massacred other tribes wholesale. I'm not saying either one is right.
^ Have to agree with Jappy on this one. The idea of the noble savage is quite misled in truth.
No one says that what the European settlers did wasnt terrible, but painting the natives as gentle, peace loving folk until the nasty settlers arrived is simply pc meddling.
^Depends a lot on the tribe. Some were peaceful, others weren't. All were outgunned.
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^Agreed with skylab.
Who hasn't been "outgunned" at some time or another? The Roman army faced a bunch of crazy Welshmen and Scots who painted themselves blue and fought naked. It didn't go well for the home team.
Well jappy and others... let me ask you this: Which group of people were still committing genocide on a massive scale in the 20th century? White Europeans or Native American tribes?
The answer is blatantly obvious. The so called "civilized" white Europeans who slaughtered millions in the Holocaust (Nazi Germany) and those who starved millions to death in the Soviet Union (under Stalin).
Lets compare who is civilized now. Who is it?
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