result #105632 - BUSH'S IRAN INVASION PLAN IS BASED ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE, NOT THE CIA'S

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political : BUSH'S IRAN INVASION PLAN IS BASED ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE, NOT THE CIA'S

[+] serious ballot by cranky
ACTIVE Nov 20,2006 - Sat Aug 15, 09

On CNN, New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh reported that a new CIA assessment concludes that “there’s no evidence Iran is doing anything that puts them close to a bomb.” Despite the intelligence agency’s conclusion, Hersh reports that the White House is still aggressively moving ahead with preparations for a military conflict with Iran.

As part of the White House’s preparations for Iran, Hersh says President Bush and Vice President Cheney are “stovepiping” intelligence and keeping information provided by the Israelis hidden from the CIA.

The Israelis are telling the White House, according to Hersh’s new article “The Next Act,” that they have a reliable agent inside Iran who reports that the nation is working on a trigger for a bomb. “Of course the people in the CIA want to know who is, obviously,” Hersh said. “They certainly want to know what other evidence he has of actual making of a warhead. This is the internecine fight that’s going on — the same fight, by the way, that we had before Iraq.”

Prior to the Iraq war, the White House set up intelligence stovepipes to “get information they wanted directly to the top leadership.” Cheney and company relied on information provided by the Iraqi National Congress, an exile group headed by Ahmad Chalabi. “Chalabi’s defector reports were…flowing from the Pentagon directly to the Vice-President’s office, and then on to the President, with little prior evaluation by intelligence professionals.”

State Dept. intelligence expert Greg Thielmann said that prior to the Iraq war that “garbage was being shoved straight to the President.” A U.S. official confirmed that defectors from Chalabi’s organization “had provided suspect information to numerous Western intelligence agencies. ‘It’s safe to say he tried to game the system,’ the official said.”

Hersh’s article suggests a similar breakdown in the intelligence process is happening with regards to Iran and may open to door to possible intelligence manipulation. (Think Progress)

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Should the Bush Administration be making plans for an invasion of Iran, one that would likely be far more costly than the invasion of Iraq, based on intelligence being fed straight to the White House from Israel, while ignoring CIA analysis and refusing to allow the CIA to examine the Israeli intelligence?

No, Bush should be using CIA intelligence	7
Yes, Israeli intelligence is so much less biased	6
Look! A suspicious Muslim!	3
I'm a neocon, and if Israel says it, it must be true	2

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COMMENTS:
Oy vey! Just mentioning this makes you an Anti-Semite! Here comes the ADL to save the day! They need us goyim for cannon fodder.

by _Beelzebubba on Mon Nov 20, 06 11:31am [+]

Voted : No, Bush should be using CIA intelligence
LOL, we are so owned by the israelis, it's not even funny...

by LCD on Mon Nov 20, 06 11:37am [+]

doesn't matter now. there won't be any movement on iran any time soon anyway. but it is highly irregular to use foreign intelligence over your own, unless that foreign intelligence is giving you the information you want. IC_tune

by Kev24 on Mon Nov 20, 06 11:39am [+]

Voted : No, Bush should be using CIA intelligence
^Yep

by skylab on Mon Nov 20, 06 1:23pm [+]

Well... I bet the Israeli intelligence estimates on this are better than those of the CIA. Certainly better than Seymour Hersh who said we would be at war with Iran by June 2004 if I remember correctly. He based this on his "sources". I don't give anything he says much credibility anymore. Every single thing he has said about the US and Iran has been wrong.

by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Nov 20, 06 1:28pm [+]

Voted : No, Bush should be using CIA intelligence
I'd personally appreciate it if Mister Bush used intelligence, period...

by Truthseeker013 on Mon Nov 20, 06 1:32pm [+]

Fiddle:

If the Iraq War hadn't turned into a nightmare of historic proportions, we might have been in Iran in 2004. After all, the goal of the neocons was "perpetual war," knocking over one enemy of the American right after another, like dominos. Unfortunately, we haven't gotten done with the first domino, yet.

And as for the Israeli estimates: why would anyone believe that Israel wouldn't be manipulating the intelligence for their own ends?

And why would Cheney and his boy, Bush, be afraid to share the intelligence with the CIA, unless it was because, as usual, Bush can't handle any truth that contradicts his knuckleheaded, ill-informed prejudices?

by cranky on Mon Nov 20, 06 2:26pm [+]

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