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SO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STUDENT'S DEATH?


[+] serious ballot by passiveson
ACTIVE Jan 11,2007 - Sat Jan 10, 09
Spawned from Cranky's Ballot #111054 *Is this type of fraternity hazing OK?*.

You have to consider the various agents involved in putting this student at risk. Who is responsible for providing the student the access to, and the ability to, consume excessive amounts of alcohol (toxins) that would lead to his death?

Do you consider that the student is responsible for poisoning himself by consuming so much alcohol it cause his own death?
But, he wasn't of legal age to legally purchase or consume alcohol.

So, is the Fraternity to be held to blamed for allowing the minors at the party to consume the alcohol provided to the party goers?
But, the University provides desegregated student housing, unrestricted to age, potentially exposing them to alcohol abuse and putting minor age students at risk.

Is the University liable for not regulating the living arrangements and putting the minor students at risk?
But, the State and Federal Governments regulate the manufacture and widespread distribution of alcohol to nearly everyone making it easily accessible for minors.

Then, is it the State and Federal Governments fault for regulating the legal manufacture and sales of the potentially deadly poisons that killed this young man?
It could be justifiably argued that providing the legal sale of alcohol to the public is neglegent and irresponsible, so the Government's liable for any injury or death resulting from the sale, distribution and misuse of a dangerous product by minors.
But, Society possess' a lenient attitude towards the sale and distribution of alcohol to minors until someone dies from its abuse.

Statistically, Alcohol is responsible for more social problems, injuries and deaths worldwide then any other substance or product sold on the market.
There are more alcohol related crimes, including domestic violence, child neglect and abuse, violent assaults, robbery's, traffic related crashes and negligent homicides (I refrain from calling them accidents, because it's no accident to drive drunk), then any illicit substance or other products available to the population.

I personally believe this is a case of social irresponsibility. Society as a whole is liable for it's lenient, casual attitude about alcohol consumption by minors and for allowing this student access to and consumption of a potentially deadly poison. Everyone mentioned above is responsible to some degree, including this student, and it's a social tragedy that occurs far to often.

What's your assessment?

The student is responsible for his own actions. 5
The fraternity is liable for allow this student access to alcohol. 3
The University is responsible for putting the student at risk. 3
Society is at fault for having a lenient attitude toward minors consuming alcohol. 2
A combination of the student, uni and frat 2
The Government is to blame for regulating the sale of toxic substances to the public. 0

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Voted : Society is at fault for having a lenient attitude toward minors consuming alcohol.
Stop the maddness.
I grew up in a combative alcoholic enviroment. Every year around Holidays there was a grand war at my home. I believed for years that Santa's Sliegh had little red flashing lights on top. I would tell my friends *Santa took Daddy Downtown tonight*.

Do you know what I got for Christmas?

Severe emotional Problems. LOL

I tell this jokingly, though it's no joke. Still, every year around Holidays, I get depressed and experience Post truamatic dis-stress. Though I have learned to cope over the years, There's a serious need for social awareness and change to prevent these tragedies.

by passiveson on Fri Jan 12, 07 12:00am [+]

I think there's a cultural aspect here that must share the blame.

This sort of moronic "fraternity hazing" doesn't exist in European universities.
by ramaDUNG on Fri Jan 12, 07 12:30am [+]

Voted : The fraternity is liable for allow this student access to alcohol.
More specifically, the student himself combined with his friends and his fraternity.

Blaming the federal government or Johnny Walker isn't going to change anything. You can't make a change in society until you start with the people within it.

"I think there's a cultural aspect here that must share the blame.

This sort of moronic "fraternity hazing" doesn't exist in European universities."
by ramaDUNG

Yeah, I think it's the general 'alcohol is bad' attitude that makes it look more inviting to the young here.
by Grumpy_Person on Fri Jan 12, 07 12:52am [+]

Voted : The student is responsible for his own actions.
He is responsible for his own actions. Unless the fraternity forced him to drink and/or knew he was ill, they should not share the blame. It doesn't matter if he was under legal drinking age.
by thc2883 on Fri Jan 12, 07 5:49am [+]

Yep, that's it Grumpy.

Kids can legally drink in public (accompanied, or with meals) as young as 13 in some European countries. So when they get to university there's no great mystique about alcohol, and kids generally have a better idea of their own tolerance levels. And usually a healthy respect for spirits, at the very least.

Although I was actually quite surprised at how low that frat kid's blood alcohol level was... that sort of level shouldn't have been lethal. I can only assume that this was his first real night out on the piss, as it were.
by ramaDUNG on Fri Jan 12, 07 10:18am [+]

Then there's the possibility that he was allergic to alcohol. Sometimes people are and don't know until they drink beyond a certain point. They usually exhibit some adverse reaction with any amount they drink though.

Or maybe alcohol wasn't the only thing he consumed?
by passiveson on Fri Jan 12, 07 2:44pm [+]

Voted : A combination of the student, uni and frat
At some point, that kid should have had the common sense to stop and say, "Hey, getting into this isn't worth the effort." The frat should've known that the kid was drinking too much, and the university is simply responsible because it's the university. In charge, therefore responsible.
by Truthseeker013 on Fri Jan 12, 07 3:27pm [+]

Voted : The fraternity is liable for allow this student access to alcohol.
Wow, i don't know, i guess the fraternity should be watching the kids better?

I like what grumpy put...
by socal_sweetie on Fri Jan 12, 07 5:24pm [+]

Voted : The student is responsible for his own actions.
Most students seem to survive college without dying by fraternity hazing.
Is it due to values instilled by parents ?
Is it because fraternities get by with irresponsible behaviour ?

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by Black_Lava on Sat Jan 13, 07 9:05am [+]






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