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WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED IF FRANCE BECAME PRO-BUSH?

[+] serious ballot by xxxxxxxx
created Sat Jan 20, 07

"PARIS -- Improbable as it sounds today, by the time President Bush is rounding out his final term in office, his closest European ally and new best friend could be the president of France.

Nicolas Sarkozy, who on Sunday will clinch the ruling center-right party's nomination for the presidency, is an unabashed admirer of America. If Sarkozy can hold off Socialist Party candidate Segolene Royal in what is expected to be a tight contest this spring, the sour relations between the U.S. and France will undoubtedly sweeten.

Meanwhile, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who has paid a heavy price in the opinion polls for his chumminess with Bush, already has declared that this will be his final year in office. Gordon Brown, chancellor of the exchequer and Blair's all-but-certain successor, has said he will maintain Britain's "special relationship" with the U.S., but on a personal level the dour Scot is likely to keep his distance from Bush.

"New best friend" might be overstating it a bit, but David Martinon, Sarkozy's foreign policy adviser, says his boss' affection for the U.S. is genuine.

"I see a lot of American diplomats, politicians and journalists these days and I am telling them, yes, Nicolas Sarkozy is a friend of America. He admires American culture. He has no problem with money or success or working hard," Martinon said.

"He likes the idea of a second chance. In France, if you fail once, you are dead. In America, you have a second, third or fourth chance. You have a culture of taking risks that doesn't exist in France."

`Good meeting'

Last September, Sarkozy made a trip to the U.S. timed to coincide with the Sept. 11 commemorations. Along the way he met with Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former President Bill Clinton, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, among others.

"With George Bush, it was a very good meeting--straight in the eye and direct," said Martinon. "And he very much liked Barack Obama. They talked about Darfur , Iraq and immigration policy."

The ease with which Sarkozy has apparently established a comfort zone with a wide spectrum of American political leaders gives him a leg up on Royal, who has been committing one faux pas after another as she travels from the Middle East to China in a bid to bolster her thin foreign-policy resume.

While Royal's emergence as a serious presidential candidate has been as sudden as it is surprising, Sarkozy has been wearing his presidential ambitions on his sleeve for years. A television reporter once asked him whether he thought about the presidential palace when he shaved in the morning. "Not just when I shave," he replied.

On Sunday, Sarko, as he is known in France, takes a major step toward achieving that ambition when he officially becomes the presidential candidate of Union for a Popular Movement. The UMP conducted a two-week online primary to select its candidate, and the results will be announced at Sunday's party conference. Sarkozy was the only candidate.

Though Sarkozy was once a protege of President Jacques Chirac, the two are barely on speaking terms now. Chirac, 74, has refused to endorse Sarkozy, 51, and he has done nothing to quell chatter that he may yet attempt to spoil Sarkozy's chances by jumping into the race and seeking a third term as an independent. Political professionals believe the chances of this are nil--Chirac, they say, has no chance of beating Sarkozy, and the humiliation of losing would only further diminish his sagging legacy.

With Chirac a deeply unpopular figure in France these days, the falling out between the two men probably helps Sarkozy more than it hurts. On the campaign trail Sarkozy has spoken repeatedly of the need for a "rupture" with the past; Chirac embodies that past.

According to Sarkozy, the old way of doing business in France, aimed mainly at protecting its well-cushioned social welfare state, has left the country with a sclerotic economy, high unemployment and bleak prospects for the future.

Eric Besson, a member of the National Assembly from the Socialist Party, last month characterized Sarkozy as "an American neo-conservative with a French passport."

Sarkozy says there is nothing wrong with wanting to trim welfare benefits or encouraging people to work longer hours. He says he admires the flexibility of the American and British economic models, and wants to import some of their ideas."

(Source: Chicago Tribune)

- So would you be surprised if French foreign policy dramatically becomes more pro-Bush?

No, I would not be surprised at all	56%
Yes, I would be very surprised	40%
maybe not dramatically more Pro-Bush but just somewhat more Pro-Bush	4%

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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes, I would be very surprised
Very.

French politicians make their careers out of "standing up" to Uncle Sam on trivial issues. It would be quite a shock if all of a sudden they decided they liked america, at least when they weren't out to get something from us. They put on a good act of it during the 40s, but for obvious self serving reasons.

by herzog on Sat Jan 20, 07 12:48pm [+]

Voted : No, I would not be surprised at all
Sarkozy has quite a good chance of winning the Presidency.

He is criticised for being too free-market, too pro-American, too pro-Israeli, too tough on rioters, too tough on immigration, and too tough on Islamic extremism. He is hated by socialists, Chirac, and the street rioters.

by xxxxxxxx on Sat Jan 20, 07 12:50pm [+]

herzog- So you're saying your gut reaction to such a thing would at least initally be a feeling of 'They must want something from the US'?

by xxxxxxxx on Sat Jan 20, 07 12:53pm [+]

Socrates: yes. I can't recall any time they've supported selflessly, simply because it was the right thing to do. The french are you best friends, when they're in need of something. Otherwise as far as they're concerned your very existence is a nuisance.

by herzog on Sat Jan 20, 07 12:56pm [+]

herzog- I'm not sure what it would be that Sarkozy wants from the US?

by xxxxxxxx on Sat Jan 20, 07 1:03pm [+]

I'm not sure. I'm just going by history here, and historically france has never cared about generating good feelings with the US unless they were asking for something.

Perhaps they are beginning to wake up to the threat of islamic extremists, especially within their own cities, and are looking for real allies to bail them out when things go south for them.

by herzog on Sat Jan 20, 07 1:37pm [+]

Voted : Yes, I would be very surprised
French politicians are one thing, but would the French nation ever support that cul d'un Amerloque Bush? Euh... non.

by ramaDUNG on Sat Jan 20, 07 2:24pm [+]

Yes. I don't even think it would really be about Bush. I would be surprised if the were pro-anything NOT French.

by Noblese_Oblige on Sat Jan 20, 07 2:38pm [+]

Voted : No, I would not be surprised at all
Not really France will move to the right when the Muslims run wild in the streets.

by lowerclassbrats on Sat Jan 20, 07 3:25pm [+]

they kind of already did last year...and well you are actually right. Sarkozy is the most popular now and won the nomination of his party and Le Pen is back and popular again. Also the EU's first real right wing party was just formed and their main concern is expanding the EU to include Turkey and Muslim integration or lack thereof.

by Noblese_Oblige on Sat Jan 20, 07 4:03pm [+]

Voted : No, I would not be surprised at all
I was surprised when Mister Bush won re-election. After that, nothing ruffles me.

by Truthseeker013 on Sat Jan 20, 07 5:01pm [+]

Voted : Yes, I would be very surprised
"He is criticised for being too free-market, too pro-American, too pro-Israeli, too tough on rioters, too tough on immigration, and too tough on Islamic extremism. He is hated by socialists, Chirac, and the street rioters."

That must mean that the leftists in the US will hold a venomous hatred towards him.

by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Sat Jan 20, 07 7:42pm [+]

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