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THAILAND WANTS TO BUILD A BIG SECURITY WALL ALONG ITS BORDER WITH MALAYSIA?


[+] serious ballot by xxxxxxxx
created Tue Feb 06, 07
"Thailand's army-appointed prime minister said on Sunday he supported building a security wall along part of the border with Malaysia to stop smuggling and illegal border crossings.
Surayud Chulanont, on a tour of Thailand's Muslim-dominated far south where 2,000 people have been killed in a three-year-old separatist insurgency, avoided any mention of the violence as a reason for building the wall. "The wall will make it more convenient for us to check border areas," Surayud said of the proposed 27-km (17-mile) wall in the Betong district of the southern province of Yala, one of the three southern provinces bordering Malaysia.

Former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted in a bloodless Sept. 19 coup, infuriated Kuala Lumpur in 2005 when he suggested building a security wall along the entire 500-km (310-mile) border with Malaysia to stop militant infiltration.

Malaysia has repeatedly denied assertions by Thai security agencies that militants are hiding on its territory.

Surayud said there was no need to run the proposal by Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who will visit Thailand for annual bilateral talks on Feb. 11-13.

"If we don't build it, it could disadvantage us because we will face problems with border crossings and smuggling," he told reporters after meeting with Betong's mayor, whose district is considered a hot spot for militant activity.

Nobody has claimed responsibility for the violence which has seen almost daily gun and bomb attacks in the three predominantly Muslim southern provinces where many hold dual Thai Malaysian citizenship."

(Source: China Post)

MAP: Thailand's three Muslim terrorist-ridden separatist provinces, and the border with Malaysia. Thailand has often accused Muslim Malaysia of allowing Islamic militants and terrorists to cross back and forth over the Thai-Malaysian border completely unchecked, and thus of being sympathetic of the terrorists that wage violence against Thailand.

- Do you think building a security wall along the border of Malaysia would be a good idea for Thailand?

Yes 91%
No 8%

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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes
That would be an appropriate response. Since the Malaysian government has not done its part in stopping the Islamic terrorism, perhaps it is time that Thailand made sure that the terrorists could no longer freely slip back and forth between the Thai-Malaysian border.

I continuously get the impression that Malaysia is somewhat sympathetic toward the Islamic separtist movement in southern Thailand.

by xxxxxxxx on Tue Feb 06, 07 10:10am [+]

Voted : No
Why not? They are just following our example. By the way, Arizona should build a fence along the border with new mexico and California, do you know how much drugs are being transported between the two states, adn how we are affected adversely by the traffickers?

Seriously though, this planet's going to be full of razorwire fences - how would you like to live in a community where every house is fortified by 10ft concrete wall topped with razorwire with steel gates?

I have lived in such communities before, trust me, it's no fun.
by LCD on Tue Feb 06, 07 10:17am [+]

LCD- So Thailand should do what in the face of Islamist Malaysia's indifference to the Islamist terrorists that cross back and forth across the border, whom are responsible for "almost daily gun and bomb attacks" ??
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Feb 06, 07 10:26am [+]

Voted : Yes
If that will help, why not?

But if that's the case, then should the U.S. stop threatening Syria about terrorists moving into Iraq from Syrian territory, and start doing more from the Iraq side of the border?
by cranky on Tue Feb 06, 07 10:28am [+]

cranky - It would be unfeasible to build a wall along the Iraqi-Syrian border (and most probably one would probably follow along the Iranian-Iraqi border?)

Those borders would be far too long, whereas the Thai-Malaysian border is much smaller.

By the way, how do you always revert every topic somehow back to the US? Would require much skill to so I would think. But not everything is about the US.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Feb 06, 07 10:43am [+]

Voted : Yes
Fences to keep such people out of your country seems a reasonable solution.

But I wonder, does this mean the thai people are racist against malaysians?.
by herzog on Tue Feb 06, 07 10:52am [+]

^No, but you're a racist.

MAG_rofl
by cranky on Tue Feb 06, 07 11:04am [+]

Soc:

I live in the U.S., so tend to think of things from an American perspective. That seems natural to me. What I don't understand are people, like American rightwingers, who are constantly bashing Europe, for instance.
by cranky on Tue Feb 06, 07 11:06am [+]

^No, but you're a racist.


by cranky on Tue Feb 06, 07 2:04pm



cranky loves herzog, cranky loves herzog. hey, sugar lips, did you have another wet dream about him last night?
by Kev24 on Tue Feb 06, 07 11:14am [+]

it's amazing how some of you manage to drag the united states into a ballot about malaysia and thailand. i'm really very embarrassed for you. do you know how little credibility you have when you do that? over and over and over and over and over again? get with the program.
by Kev24 on Tue Feb 06, 07 11:17am [+]

now to answer the question. i tend to not like fences. i prefer open borders. that being said, there is an element in our world that seeks to do other's harm (besides gwb i mean ;)

in an ideal world, i'd love to be able to travel freely throughout the world. thailand and malaysia have the same problems many countries are having with religious nut cases. best thing to do is to stamp out terrorism by getting rid of the reasons they carry out those terrorist attacks -- take away their reason and you stop them right in their tracks. i seriously hope one day borders don't exist. (yeah, yeah, call me crazy)
by Kev24 on Tue Feb 06, 07 11:23am [+]

Voted : Yes
Yes. It's their country, let them use any reasonable means they can to protect it's borders from threats that they perceive.

As for the drug trafficking between California, New Mexico, and Arizona. Where do you think alot of those drugs come from? It's not like coca plants can grow in US climate...
by Grumpy_Person on Tue Feb 06, 07 12:20pm [+]

Kev:

Yes, I did.

025
by cranky on Tue Feb 06, 07 12:34pm [+]

^ i knew it! hope you don't send your laundry out to be washed. or do you sleep comando?
by Kev24 on Tue Feb 06, 07 12:43pm [+]

Soc:

They are talking about building a 17 mile wall, which is only a small portion of the Thai-Malay border.
by cranky on Tue Feb 06, 07 12:45pm [+]

Kev:

Like most neocons, I've never been a commando. I prefer footed pajamas.
by cranky on Tue Feb 06, 07 12:47pm [+]

Voted : Yes
It's been a very ill concealed secret that, for the past decade or more, Malaysia more or less ignored or exercised very little effort in pursuing Islamist militants who'd been sailing into Malaysian territories after similar terrorist attacks in the southern Philippines. Some of the prime Abu Sayyaf lunatics would leave Jolo or some of the other far southern Philippine islands and run over to Malaysia whenever the heat was on from the Philippine army. They would find sympathetic coreligionists on the other side of the border, and the Malaysian government would make nice chat with Manila but do remarkably little on the ground. Over the past years, with the fairly successful military actions in the Sulu area, this appears to have died down. History now repeats in southern Thailand, as the very same thing recurs and Malaysia politicians sit on their hands mostly. A fortified border, especially such a short distance, sounds marvelous for Thai security.

Of course, LCD wants the U.S. border wide open, since it's worked so very well the past 30 years. We haven't a problem with illegal immigration, or cross border crime and smuggling, or anything like that. We all know Mexico should be allowed to reconquer the Southwest, unless we're American fascist nationalists, right?
by Felix on Tue Feb 06, 07 4:14pm [+]

LCD: there's a difference in building walls around your house, or state, and building it around a national border that is virtually open.

And it is sad that some people are so obsessively anti-american that they can't address any issue without turning it in to an attack on the US. These people would be amazed to find that america isn't to blame for all the worlds problems.
by herzog on Tue Feb 06, 07 4:49pm [+]

cranky - The former PM Thaksin Shinawatra had suggested building one along the entire border.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Feb 07, 07 6:04am [+]

hey you asked. I gave you my opinions, don't have to bite my head off.

by LCD on Mon Feb 12, 07 3:23pm [+]

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