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Voted : unable to differentiate between facts and stereotypes
And an almost-equal vote for insecurity about their own race.
Voted : It depends
on whether someone likes to instigate by randomly calling people racist, or whether they say it because they don't like someone, or whether they say it to a cross burner because it's true.
Voted : Because they're racist
Not sure to whom you are refering but if a persons a racist then they're racist.
Ballot #93993 address' the racist users debate pretty well.
I also recommend Ballot # 89533 By FFLSD for your opinion.
It has to do with being non-white.
It's a convenient excuse for their own failure to succeed.
Blame it on the White People.
Again, I refer you to FFLSD's
Racist is a prospective ideology determined by a persons sense of acceprtable or offensive observations.
What is racist is in esscence the intent to belittle or debase people of another race as being inferior to your own. Insincere humility or impartiality doesn't rectify the racism and racial stereotyping in humor qualifies as racist.
Ballot didn't appear. Ballot 89533.
Several things.
Some users, such as bbc and cranky, are very bigoted (these users have some awful things to say about homosexuals). And use preemptive strikes against others to draw attention away from their own bigotry.
Others, do it because it conveniently prevents them from having to address any argument that they don't like. Point out a flaw in their ideology in a well reasoned, factual way that cannot be disputed logically and they respond by calling you a racist to avoid dealing with that.
And some are simply so brainwashed that they actually believe whites (particularly white male christians) are responsible for all the worlds problems and any minority member is by definition a victim. So to them it does seem as if any criticism of someone belonging to a minority group is a racist attack, because from their point of view all minorities are victims, which means they are blameless, which means any criticism of them must come out of irrational hatred, rather than honest observation. It's quite sad that this is the state many in our great nation have been reduced to by the politics of guilt and self-loathing.
Actually the habitual race baiters probably fit all three descriptions.
They will no doubt respond with "herzog you're a racist", thus further proving my point, so I'll preemptively ask them for A) their definition of what constitutes racism and B) concrete proof of my alleged racism. They will of course refuse to offer up either and instead will call me a racist again then storm off.
Wow, that saved alot of time.
For instance, the usual suspects screamed their fool heads off when Senator Biden described Obama as clean intelligent and articulate.
Yes, they actually thought that constituted racism. From how they responded you'd swear he actually lynched the guy on Martin Luther Kings birthday while waving a confederate flag.
Voted : It depends
Thanks for the mention passiveson. What I do see a lot of is people who are not of a minority race being the first to say "racist", etc. That smacks of being patronizing or somewhat indicative that the minority group member needs a do-gooder to call someone a racist. When a person of that minority group believes something is racist or anti-Semitic, I give it a much more serious look. The person to whom it is directed is best able to determine whether it is racist, etc. For example, I do not think someone making a racist or anti-Semitic joke as being let off the hook because they say it was just a "joke" or that they are not racist or anti-Semitic. Saying that doesn't make it so. I refer the rest of you to ballot #89533
^One New York Times article on Biden's remark said a lot of African Americans say that the word "articulate" is used to describe blacks more often than whites. They think the implied assumption is that it's surprising for blacks to be articulate.
I hadn't even thought about that until I read the article. But there might be something to it.
"No, you cannot judge an entire culture by a tiny subset handpicked by some racist"
That was a ballot choice put on herzog's ballot 112294 by LCD. Funny how herzie didn't mention that LCD has pointed out numerous times what a racist herzog is. It must have slipped his mind.
And yes, herzog is a racist. He's a modern racist -- a yuppie, white collar racist -- of course. He's one who isn't overt in his obsessive bigotry, and avoids directly expressing his hate-driven views, prferring to use the new wave racist's technique of putting it all between the lines and soft-pedaling everything. Still, he only does that to avoid the near-universal criticism he would receive if he expressed his views honestly and openly.
In response to racist herzog's "preemptive" question (whatever a "preemptive" question is):
If herzog needs a definition of racism, I'd suggest he get a dictionary. That little picture besides the text will be of him. I know he enjoys trying to confuse the issue by debating whether he is a racist or simply a bigot, but that is just another of his cons.
And as for proof that he is racist (or bigot), if anyone really needs proof, and simply isn't using that question as an attempt to divert attention from herzog's obvious racism and bigotry, I'd suggest they take a stroll through herzog's ballot list, and see how many of his ballots direct hatred toward Muslims and blacks. Then go through his comments to get the flavor of his blind obsession toward spreading his euphemized message of hate. His behavior is proof of his racism.
But what is really galling about herzog's down-the-line bigotry toward all things despised by modern ultra-rightwingers is the exception he makes for gays. Is it just a coincidence that since herzog is gay, that he somehow gets very liberal in this attitudes toward homosexuality? Note his ballot 112419 where in his attempt to decry the evils of conservative discrimination against gays, he actually defends the United Nations, one of his obsessive targets. I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that he is a homosexual, or we would have to endure and never-ending string of gay bashing ballots, too. (herzog was accidentally outed by one of his allies on a previous ballot)
And as for this "usual suspects" thing he has been doing lately: it's just an attempt to smear ANYONE who disagrees with him on any issue, by referring to them vaguely, sinisterly, as "the usual suspects." Just another tool of the bigot.
A side note to Black Lava: Why have you changed your name to New Girl?
Its a sociological backlash against previously committed crimes by "white males" in the past centuries, for which white males today are assumed to share some portion of the blame/guilt, which is completely racist in itself (of course).
Many white males in modern society react to this brainwashing by modelling themselves as crusaders for minority rights, out of a fear of their own perceived inherently racist white oppressor nature. These people are generally weak minded and have fragile personalities susceptible to media suggestion, with little capacity for objective thought.
Also, most people nowadays confuse racist for raciALIST, two very different definitions. Admtting ravial differences isnt racist, its rationalist. Racialism only becomes racism when a subjective component is added to ones observations.
So, ignorance and weak mindedness is the short answer.
And you'll note that herzie accused both BBC and myself of being bigots and gay bashers -- without providing any proof -- of course.
It's been apparent for a long time the herzie operates under the Republican ethic that says that there is one set of rules for ultra-conservative white males, a different set of rules for everyone else.
So I'll preemptively ask him for A) his definition of what constitutes homophobia and bigotry, and B) concrete proof of our alleged homophobia and bigotry. He will of course refuse to offer up either.
And it looks like herzog's "girlfriend" felt he needed protecting. Ah, isn't that sweet?
Received karma rating of : -5 from TheNewGirl
For the Ballot comment#1131839 @ Bestandworst.com.
- Obviously, YOU don't
"the Republican ethic that says that there is one set of rules for ultra-conservative white males, a different set of rules for everyone else." I think that is a massive overstatement. Not everybody with conservative view's is a Rascist, and white people are not the only one's with conservative view's. Personally I have opinions that would be labelled right-wing, and I have opinions that would be labelled as left-wing.
"And it looks like herzog's 'girlfriend' felt he needed protecting. Ah, isn't that sweet?" I also think that it is wrong to ridicule people that hold a different point of view to your own. People say things on this site everyday that I disagree with, but that does not mean that my opinion is superior to theirs.
As for Herzog being racist; I personally haven't seen a comment made by herzog that I would call 'racist'. I agree with some of his comments made on ballots, and he seems like a decent person.
You obviously have a firm set of beliefs cranky, and I have agreed with some comments you have made on other ballots, but I think it is wrong to dispel other people's opinions, simply because they are not similar to your own. I wont bother answering the balllot question, as its obviously aimed at people who want to ridicule you. PS (I dont think TheNewGirl likes you.) ;)
And the response to my comment was absolutely, 100% as I predicted it would be. Thus proving my point.
Now only one question remains: herzog, do you ever get tired of being right all the time? I'm glad you asked that, no, I will never get tired of being right.
And both cranky and babs have used slurs against homosexuals before. They have both used words such as "fag, queen, butt-boy" etc to refer to homosexuals. Let there be no doubt, if anyone were to refer to blacks or Muslims or any other of their preferred minority groups with similar derogatory terms they would be the first to scream racism. See what they'd say if you called arabs 'ragheads', or blacks 'coons', words that are about as offensive to those groups as "queen" is offensive to a homosexual and they'd go nuts.
In addition they routinely attack my by calling me a jew (and they like to claim I'm gay as well, and use that as an insult), the fact that they consider being jewish an insult pretty much says it all. Babs called me hooknosed as well, obviously an anti-semitic slur.
Typically those who scream loudest about bigotry and racism are some of the biggest racists there are. A couple users on this website should serously consider that when they continue to point the finger at others and post the GW Bush icon in their comments.
Oh, did that give it away? Oh well.
herzog's right. a recent example is --
"I don't have to explain a thing to any of ya, do the math, you know exactly what I am referring too. Now, call me what you will, your BOY is still a racist lil butt BOY...Got it? Good..."
i see this alot. a user calling another user a racist and in that same comment, using words like "fag" or "butt boy" or referring to a male user as "she" or "her." i guess their outrage only extends to matters of black vs. white. some liberal.
Voted : Because they're racist
Get a life Kev24, you support a RACIST, however, when/if someone dare to say anything about gays that you perceive as being homophobic, you cry and whine and yell foul...You and FFLSD are hypocrites and RACIST supporters, therefore, I take your opinions and his with a grain of salt, aka, Barbara_Baby_Cakes 
FYI Kev24, it was your RACIST BOY that started the "he" & "she" references, get all the information before making uneducated comments regarding the matter...I never used the "f" word, so to imply that it was used by myself only also prove that you misrepresent facts as do your RACIT BOY when discussing people of color, how interesting...aka, Barbara_Baby_Cakes 
Voted : It depends
Depends.
Sometimes the accused may actually be racist.
However, it is not uncommon in political debates, to accuse one of being a racist without any proof, as a means of avoiding actually discussing the issue that was being talked about.
Voted : Because herzog clearly dislikes blacks and muslims
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ramaDUNG- Is it intrinsically wrong to criticise other races, nationalities and creeds?
Certainly I have seen herzog criticize people of other races, but I have not seen it done in a racist manner. Individuals were criticised for their actions and behaviour and never I have seen simply for their race.
As for nationality, certainly, yes herzog has criticised other national cultural attitudes. So? A lot of those traditions that were criticised were barbaric anyway.
And creed? I did not know there was anything at all wrong with criticising 'creed'. They should indeed be open to critique.
And while I have seen herzog criticise individuals who happen to be black and individuals that happen to be Muslim, I have not seen him criticise 'all Muslims' or 'all blacks', so one cannot at all jump to the cluttered conclusion that he dislikes blacks and Muslims.
Voted : Because they're racist
"And both cranky and babs have used slurs against homosexuals before. They have both used words such as "fag, queen, butt-boy" etc to refer to homosexuals." - Herzog
Not only you are a RACIST Herzog, you are a RACIST LIAR...
I would dare you to find a comment of mine using the the following insulting words, "F*g and Queen...Find ONE Mrs RACIST LIAR...I did use the words BUTT BOY towards a user that is NOT gay to make the point of him being an arse kisser...
Once again Herzog, you intentionally misrepresented the facts, you are nothing more than the following, RACIST, LIAR, LOSER, Lil PRICK, DELUSIONAL and a huge boil on the arse of mankind
Oh, and by the way, BBC/SFP are one in the same...I would not want to receive full credit for making the above comment...Later you lying RACIST/Herzog...
*herzog is currently frantically searching away for evidence of SFP/BBC apparent homophobia...*
Satin/babs, who changes his/her names as often as he/she changes her gender.
Make up your mind on both issues and it will save us all some time.
Anyway, I am curious how you feel you have the moral highground to constantly throw around baseless accusations of racism, when you yourself routinely use bigoted slurs against homosexuals? And while my "racism" (according to you) is entirely based on speculation, your bigotry against homosexuals is readily apparent in the words you use. It's not as if I go around this site calling all arabs "ragheads" as a matter of course, the way you seem to be only capable of referring to homosexuals with various derogatory slurs.
Please come to grips with your identity and gender, then respond to my question about your blatant hypocrisy please.
Oh, and if you can find evidence of me using similarly "racist" slurs against blacks, muslims, whoever, that are equivalent to 'butt boy' then please do so. Yes, I am asking you directly babs for evidence, yet again. And like every other time I have done this you will again refuse to respond with any. You will instead ignore this or simply come back and scream racist a few more times before crawling in to the corner and crying for several days.
"constantly criticising other races, nationalities and creeds."
Let's take this point by point.
1) Criticizing creeds, first off, what is a 'creed'?
creed /krid/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination.
2. any system or codification of belief or of opinion.
3. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of Christian belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed.
So a creed is a religious belief. I suppose then anyone who questions the logic of fred phelps is a likewise a racist? Of course not, religious doctrines are fair game and are certainly worthy of criticism. To call someone racist for saying that perhaps stoning women to death for showing their ankles is a little extreme is absolutely absurd. Simple enough, I doubt anyone could come up with any halfway reasonable counter argument to this, so we'll move on.
2) nationalities. Again, not a race, so to call someone a racist for criticizing another nation is of course absurd. And of course the blatant hypocrisy in this statement needs to be addressed: this user would have no problem railing against americans for hours on end, but when you criticize pakistans laws that protect rapists and murderers he cries out "racism" with indignation. Silly isn't it? I agree, it is silly so let's move on.
3) races. Well certainly criticizing an entire race would be proof of racism. This user managed to squeeze out one semi-coherent thought. It is not entirely coherent because it doesn't apply to me, but in his position he really needs any win he can get. I of course have never criticized an entire race. I have ruthlessly criticized members of various races for their failings. I have pointed out the absurdity of political correctness which leaves many on here completely incapable of criticizing anyone they see as a 'protected minority'. I oppose all race based initiatives and believe people should be judged as individuals, not as a black man, or an asian or whatever. In short I believe all people, regardless of skin color, are responsible for their own actions, and their successes and failures are their own. I don't make excuses for individuals based on their race and I don't believe anyone should be given preferential treatment based on skin color.
Now if this user could perhaps find evidence of racism, instances where I have said "I hate all blacks" or something to that effect, then he should feel free to post that evidence here. But, as we've played this game so many times in the past I know he won't, because he can't. And sadly, he knows he can't either, so he'll either ignore my comments or respond with even more shrill cries of "racism".
Evidence please, or admit that you are a fraud.
PS: there is no islamic race, so it's hard to be racist against muslims, even if I hated every single one, which I don't.
"PS: there is no islamic race, so it's hard to be racist against muslims, even if I hated every single one, which I don't."
^I knew you were a Cat Stevens fan... ;-)
Who is this flaming idiotic moron satinpinkflower, what kind of jack ass comes in here inciting everyone, then I look and it's some user I've never seen before given maintainer powers? This satinpinkflower should be deleted from the website, what a race baiter.
Herzog makes a good point, why are so many people so completely ignorant about what Islam is, it is NOT a race, the idea that criticism of Muslims is racist, that is utterly perposterous. I guess when I see that select few of you making anti christian ballots I should just scream racism at the top of my lungs too, right?
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