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HEZBOLLAH REARMING, DESPITE TREATY


[+] ballot by herzog
created Sun Feb 25, 07
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah publicly admits that his organization is rearming and secretly transporting arms to south Lebanon, in blatant violation of Security Council Resolution 1701. Nasrallah sends a clear message to his opponents: Hezbollah is determined to maintain its status as “the defender of Lebanon”.

Summary of Nasrallah’s speech

1. On February 16, 2007, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah gave a belligerent, arrogant speech in a ceremony held in south Beirut (in the neighborhood of Al-Rawis) on the anniversary of the killing of two senior Hezbollah figures. In his speech, Nasrallah admitted that his organization was rearming and secretly smuggling arms and ammunition to south Lebanon , in blatant violation of Security Council Resolution 1701 (which ended the second Lebanon war).

2. Following are the highlights of Hassan Nasrallah's speech (Al-Manar Television, February 16):

a. Hezbollah is rearming: “We are being very clear and we are saying that we have arms. We are not lying and telling it to the whole world. We have arms … of all shapes and sizes… The resistance has arms. It is saying it in public, adding that it is rearming and increasing the scope of its armament in order to get more dangerous arms…”

b. Hezbollah is secretly transporting arms to the Israeli front: “The resistance notes that it is transporting the arms to the front. We do not hide it. Doing it in secret is only natural. Could we do it openly? How?... We concealed our arms because we wanted to conceal them from our enemies… We are transporting the arms in secret because it is our right… We are transporting the arms secretly and in straw trucks so as to not embarrass you …”

c. Confiscating a Hezbollah arms truck by the Lebanese government (February 8): “…As for the resistance and the latest incident of the arms truck, which, incidentally, contained ammunition—that is, Katyushas —surprisingly, we heard many people claim that it was explosive charges, guns, and rifles, that we were smuggling for the parties … The customs know what the truck contained… The Lebanese army, too, submitted a report about it to senior officials… The arms confiscated are arms taken from their rightful owners…”



d. Hezbollah as the “defender of Lebanon ”, helping the Lebanese army: “In the last confrontation in front of Maroun al-Ras, 1 members of the resistance were in top shape to assist the officers and soldiers of the Lebanese army if the conflict had developed. The resistance in south Lebanon is not a burden on the Lebanese army genuine assistance for the Lebanese army. For our arms are the arms of the Lebanese army, our rockets are the rockets of the Lebanese army, our depots are the depots of the Lebanese army… Together, side by side, we will fight to defend Lebanon …”

e. Hezbollah is committed to continue terrorism in its capacity as the “defender” of Lebanon : “…We stress our commitment to the resistance , to the cause of the resistance and to the project of the resistance that defends the homeland… I am saying that we will remain on the border, in Beirut , and everywhere in Lebanon . We are Lebanese, and this country is our country… Every clod of earth in the south is to us a drop of a shahid's blood. Every rock in the south is to us a shahid's body… Every olive tree in the south is to us the loving and sparkling soul of the jihad warriors of the resistance… and Hezbollah… is willing to wage jihad and persist with its struggle for justice in all areas…”



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So he has very blatantly, and very publicly admitted what some of us have known all along: that hezbollah has absolutely no interest in following the peace treaty between Lebanon and Israel laid out by the UN.

How do you think the UN will respond to such contempt for their dictates?

They will send in more troops and crack down on hezbollah 69%
They will do nothing, expect perhaps more meaningless treaties 21%
They will pull out and hope for the best 8%

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COMMENTS:
Voted : They will do nothing, expect perhaps more meaningless treaties
I doubt anything meaningful will be done.

But I have to admit that I agree with this guy on one issue: my complete and utter lack of respect for any UN decree.

by herzog on Sun Feb 25, 07 12:23pm [+]

those zaney hezzbollahians.
by Kev24 on Sun Feb 25, 07 3:52pm [+]

So is it safe to say you prefer an isolationist standpoint?
by Applerod on Sun Feb 25, 07 9:54pm [+]

Voted : They will pull out and hope for the best
I believe despite all this, they will pull out, they will not make any new treaties, and then when conflict explodes again, they will go back in after it had settled down.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Feb 26, 07 6:19am [+]

"So is it safe to say you prefer an isolationist standpoint?"

Why do you say that?

Do you think the League of Nations did a great job? Obviously not, can you then argue against them, but still support some form of international diplomacy?
by herzog on Mon Feb 26, 07 6:58pm [+]

The United Nations is nothing if not explicitly aware of the nature of most of the problems with its structure:
un.org/ reform/ index.shtml
by Applerod on Tue Feb 27, 07 5:21am [+]

Probably the most fundamental problem is that the U.N. (General Assembly) is comprised of 192 states, including: Albania, Algeria, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Canada, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo (Republic of the), Costa Rica, Côte d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial, Estonia, Ethiopia, Fiji, Finland, France, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Iran (Islamic Republic of), Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Republic of Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People's Democratic Republic, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia (Former Yugoslav Republic of), Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Moldova (Republic of), Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia (Republic of), Seychelles, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Tanzania (United Republic of), Thailand, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States of America, Uruguay, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.

Convolution is intrinsic to its nature, as this chart demonstrates:
un.org/ Depts/ dpko/ dpko/ home.shtml

It's not some monolithic organization; which is, in a way, a good thing because most sovereign nations -- particularly the most powerful ones, are not going to be willing to relinquish any of their power to a world government. This is ironic because the very system in place is so outdated in certain main areas that it essentially prohibits change. The permanent members of the Security Council and their one-veto power are good examples.
- You could draw an analogy in reforming the Electoral College, which as you know makes your vote for President count for less than half as much as someone from New Hampshire simply by virtue of living in Texas. Of course, to remedy this blatant injustice we'd need three-quarters of the states to embrace the utterly shocking notion of making everyone's vote count the same, which isn't going to happen. Your vote in Texas and my vote in California are nearly as symbolic as they are practical, and not all that dissimilar from the resolutions passed in the United Nations.

If you check out the wording of passed resolutions, you'll likely find that most paragraphs begin with non-binding words like "deploring", "condemning", "deploring further", "requesting", "reaffirming", "suggesting", etc...
The word "decides" is in the minority, which calls attention to the need for an overhaul of the judicial component of the United Nations -- which is elucidated in a section of the first link I posted about reforms. Actually, such an overhaul is on the table and set to take first at the beginning of next year, if it passes.

As difficult as it is to achieve a significant consensus among the 192 Nations in the United Nations, one core value is generally agreed upon: the desire for peace, and with it the condemnation of starting wars; as well as disdain for the use of violent force in most contexts, including terrorism and military preemption.
by Applerod on Tue Feb 27, 07 5:31am [+]

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