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But illegal immigrants only want to come here to work and send money home to their starving families, there's not reason to regulate who gets in and who doesn't.
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I don't know for sure but i want that piece of shit behins bars forever... i hate that sick piece of sh*t
My amber alert came up right when they found out the boy was missing and i prayed they caught that filthy ****
*behind
Excuse my language, i just am so sick of these illegals stealing our kids
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is an evil C**T, thats for sure...
Voted : True
true probably. Your point?
by LCD on Tue Feb 27, 07 12:14am
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just what a child molestors would say, you know most child molestors are white males, right :)
funny how your mind works.
by LCD on Tue Feb 27, 07 12:24am
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We need to control our borders.
we need to do a lot of things.
I put stopping child molestors before controlling the borders personally.
but we all have different priorities.
by LCD on Tue Feb 27, 07 12:54am
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Illegals commit crimes here in Phoenix all the time.
probably true, given the right wing views of the balloteer.
A few illegal immigrants committing crimes is obviously a good reason to foam at the mouth and have the muscle that connects knee to the brain to spasm uncontrollably.
Another odd statistic.... murders, rapes and other serious crimes are also committed by legal American citizens too... shock horror.
I suppose we should deport everyone. How many natural born citizens and legal immigrants have committed far worse crimes?
Steel/LCD, but natural citizens have a right to be here, illegals don't. True/false, if we enforced our borders and had removed all illegal immigrants this crime still would have occurred here?
but atleast we can control our citizens a little better. The Mexicans just run right back across the border. Yes, I know Americans can to but it is a little harder.
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How exotic!
How about pitching in your kids' lunch money so we can send this poor, misunderstood soul to college on our dime?
be assured, if we do build at 100ft fence around US, the crimes will not stop. And select few of us will start going after the jews and the irish.
and be again assured that everytime you point to one isolated example to justify a racist view, I will surely point out two examples to counter it.
I know how the game is played - I have no problem with your propaganda, just expect to be challenged, on every one of those ballots :)
by LCD on Tue Feb 27, 07 1:22pm
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oh, and my snide remarks were not for the ballotmaker, but to herzog's comments :)
by LCD on Tue Feb 27, 07 2:52pm
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"be assured, if we do build at 100ft fence around US, the crimes will not stop"
No one ever claimed they would. But are you able to admit that if we did not have illegal immigrants than the crimes being committed by illegal immigrants (and yes, they do commit crimes, not all are hardworking saints) would stop? Or does your ideology prevent you from acknowledging this?
"And select few of us will start going after the jews and the irish"
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You don't like the jews or the irish? If they're here illegally they ought to be kicked out, if they're legal citizens they can stay, I'm not sure why you've got a problem with them.
"nd be again assured that everytime you point to one isolated example to justify a racist view"
Border security is a racist view? I'm going to ask you one last time LCD, and you will probably avoid answering me directly, do you believe the United States of America is allowed to have a border?
Yes there are american criminals, just as their are illegal immigrants who commit crimes here. Difference is that if our law enforcement were allowed to do their jobs the illegals would never get a chance to commit crimes here, they would be promptly deported and the mexican government can deal with them. When one man commits a crime and goes to jail there is no outrage, that is as things should be. When he commits a crime, and the cops know he commited it, but they ignore it and leave this criminal free to wander around then you'd better believe there will be outrage next time he hurts someone, because it was easily preventable by simply enforcing the law. No one is saying, and I'm sure you wish they would, that all mexicans are by nature criminals. Or that all Americans of Mexican ancestry should be forcibly removed from their homeland, or that no mexicans should be allowed to immigrate to the US legally. You would very much like for people to make such claims, and in fact you are currently pretending that someone is and responding as if they had. But no one is saying that. Many are saying that illegal immigrants should be deported and that immigration should mean only legal immigration, go through the proper channels and we'll welcome you with open arms, sneak under the fence and we'll send you back where you came from. This applies to all illegal immigrants.
Please explain the racism in asking that american law be enforced.
I wonder, LCD, had vicente the illegal alien killed this kid would you mind going up to the parents and telling them that while their son might still be alive had we merely enforced immigration laws on the books, it would be racist to do so, so you and many other americans will just have to suck it up, bury your loved ones and never complain for fear of offending illegal immigrants everywhere?
I have no problem with the US enforcing their laws... but why is this particular criminal picked out?
The fact that thousands of people are murdered in the US seem only to be a statistic, unless they are johnny foriegner, and its that foaming at the mouth rhetoric that makes me roll my eyes.
The US is a violent country and violence breeds violence, so pethaps tackling the source of it would be a better plan, rather than look for scapegoats.
"I have no problem with the US enforcing their laws... but why is this particular criminal picked out?"
Because, had we enforced our border laws this kidnapping would never have happened. LCD was unable to respond so I'll ask you, had we kept all illegal immigrants out of the country would this, and the thousands of other crimes committed by illegals in the US have occurred? It seems deceptively simple, but really it is that easy.
" The fact that thousands of people are murdered in the US seem only to be a statistic, unless they are johnny foriegner, and its that foaming at the mouth rhetoric that makes me roll my eyes."
All murders are a concern. Those that could have been easily prevented by following the law of the land years earlier are even more concerning.
Americans cannot be screened at birth for a criminal record, immigrants can.
" The US is a violent country and violence breeds violence, so pethaps tackling the source of it would be a better plan, rather than look for scapegoats."
Nobody is blaming illegals for all the crime in the US. Like LCD you are desperately hoping for someone to make such claims so you can call everyone who opposes illegal immigration a racist, but in reality that is not the case. They are however blamed for the crimes they are responsible for, which to me seems fair, wouldn't you say?
I have no beef with nations enforcing their borders, sure if immigrants were kept out then those murders would be prevented.
Who would be the target? Legal immigrants, who commit murder would also be highlighted as if being an immigrant gives the crime some sort of extra impetus.
After those people have been taken out, who next and so on.
"I have no beef with nations enforcing their borders, sure if immigrants were kept out then those murders would be prevented. "
Exactly my point, so we are agree on this.
"Who would be the target? Legal immigrants, who commit murder would also be highlighted as if being an immigrant gives the crime some sort of extra impetus."
Not at all. There is a huge difference between illegal immigrants and legal immigrants. Granted it only amounts to two letters but those two letters are pretty significant. One group by law should not even be here, the other group, by law, has every right to be here.
That's like saying if we start rounding up and arresting all drunk drivers just because a few kill people then pretty soon we'll have to start rounding up all perfectly sober drivers as well. No, of course not. That doesn't make any logical sense.
" After those people have been taken out, who next and so on"
No, it stops with criminals. They aren't being scapegoated for all our problems, they're being blamed for the ones they cause. Unless you mean we go after more criminals after that, in which case I agree, it should continue. We should continue to arrest and punish all criminals in accordance to their crimes. Seems like there's no worry of going down a slippery slope since the line between law-abiding and criminal is fairly distinct.
Then call them criminals, their ethnic background should be irrelevant.
Its the singling out of anyone non white that bugs me, a criminal is a criminal, whatever their status.
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