COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes, another example of Texas justice...
Is there a statute that says you can legally shoot a rapist? I REALLLLLLLLLY doubt it. Granted the wife is dumb as shit and should maybe be charged as an accessory or something... but damn....
Voted : The Wife is guilty...
Of course the wife is guilty. Are you implying she's not guilty? Falsely accusing someone of rape is a pretty serious crime. Suppose she were being raped, what was the husband supposed to do, let the guy who just raped his wife get away? The husband was duped.
^ I would recommend... wow... I don't know... calling the police? the guy was in his truck already. take down his license plate number for f***sake. I don't care if he tied up your wife and flogged her with a trout, he's not entitled to shoot the guy in the flipping head.
Voted : Yes, another example of Texas justice...
The husband the wife should both be charged. They sure do sound like an interesting pair of people.
Should be "The husband and the wife"
Voted : Yes, another example of Texas justice...
What evidence have you read in this article Bostonian that the wife falsely accused someone of raping her?
The Husband was given a deal to testify against the wife (who I am certain that the Husband is not too happy with if it turns out the wife was having an affair), one would have to wonder if the Husband is attempting to save his own neck from a murder charge and possibly a death sentence.
I believe there is two sides to this incident, the Prosecutor has decided to take the Murderer's side rather than the Wife's (whether she was raped or having an affair, she does not deserve to be indicted for a crime and possibly sentenced to 2 to 20 years).
It is another prime example of Texas INjustice and those who sat on the grand jury, shame on each and everyone of them...
BBC, in your ballot YOU said "Authorities say that after Tracy Roberson told her husband she was being raped...". I got my information from you.
Is there a statute that says you can legally shoot a rapist? I REALLLLLLLLLY doubt it.
by ThisIsNate
Yes. If you have reasonable belief that yourself or your family are being harmed, you have the right to defend them and/or yourself with deadly force. That's our laws. If someone doesnt like them, they don't have to live here. And I'm sure not going to lower myself to the point of calling a whole state or country of people "dildos" just because I don't agree with a few of their actions. Culturalsim is just as bad as racism...
What evidence have you read in this article Bostonian that the wife falsely accused someone of raping her?
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes
I'm not Bostonian, but according to police reports, she also filed a report with them stating that she was raped.
I hate to say this but I dont think she was raped at all. seems to me like she was caught and lied to her husband.
So she prolly should be charged with causing the situation. sure as shit if i thought my g/f had been raped id shoot the fooker. If I found out later she'd arranged the whole thing then I'd want her jailed too.
But thankfully we dont have guns in the UK and a damn good kicking is reversible.
Case again for guns to be illegal
Are we to believe what the Authorities reported Bostonian?
FACT 1: The Prosecutor decided to take the word of the individual who committed murder...
FACT 2: It was established that the Husband did shot and killed the victim.
The husband stated that his wife told him that she had been raped, Again, it will be the husband's word against the wife's...
FACT 3: You did NOT get all the information from me, you merely read an article provided by ME and ran with it as containing all the FACTS...
But BBC she sent the text
"I'm not Bostonian, but according to police reports, she also filed a report with them stating that she was raped." Grumpy_Person
Is there anything in the article that stated she filed a police report she had been raped Grumpy_Person?
Read the article again, when the husband entered the home, what was the wife doing? Where did the husband find the victim before murdering him?
Whether the woman was raped or having an affair, the punishment does not fit the crime.
The husband no matter how angry, did not have the right to murder the victim.
Now, I know at one time the State of Texas had a law (I am not certain if the law is still on the books)if a man or woman caught their spouse commiting adultery, he or she had so many minutes available to them to be insane giving them the lawful right of killing their spouse and the lover and this may be why the husband is not going to be charged.
I'm not saying she was raped girk, I believe she was having an affair with the victim. However, all the facts are not available at the moment, we only have the wife and husbands accounts of what transpired.
My position is, again, the punishment does not fit the crime with all the evidence that is presently available to us all.
Also, the husband still murdered the guy and his testimony should not be allowed to be used against the wife since I believe the husband is angry with the wife because he believes she was having an affair with the victim.
Grumpy, I do find that fascinating. Regardless, the information supplied by BBC states that the guilty party was in his truck at the time. Unless you consider truck emissions grounds to claim that he was currently "harming his family," then shooting his was unjustifiable.
*him*
Voted : Here are my thoughts...
Both are guilty as sin.
Voted : Here are my thoughts...
Here is my first response, which may modify when I know more of the story:
The wife has incited a (fatal) act of violence. She should be charged with being an accomplice to murder.
The husband has taken the life of another human being. Didn't the French have a detective series at one time entitled "Crimes of Passion"? He is, in my opinion, LESS guilty than the wife; however, you can't just "go bustin' in like ol' John Wayne" even in these extreme circumstances. I feel sorry for the guy--he played the 'hotheaded fool' and to some extent, I can actually relate to the guy--but, that doesn't mean he shouldn't get some sort of serious punishment, or everyone would just go out and do that sort of thing because they were filled with "passion." I can be passionate at times, so I reiterate that I can relate.
And, btw, even some of the most liberal persons I know DO consider it to be morally indiscreet to sleep with another person's spouse. At least to the extent that they know about it--but apparently don't give a damn--that it would cause serious emotional distress to the point of invoking RAGE in another. The guy was in her HOUSE; so, I find it difficult to believe that he DIDN'T know he was placing himself in a perilous situation. The words to the JIM CROCE song BAD, BAD, LEROY BROWN come to mind. "he learned a lesson about messin' with the wife of a jealous man". Do cigarette smokers KNOW they will get cancer? NO! But, they do know they run a greater risk. Any grown man knows there are hotheaded men out there. He placed himself at risk, and this factor should be taken into consideration; although, it does not give someone else the RIGHT to take his life.
^modifications already. Concerning the wife my opinion would read with an addendum:
"accomplice to murder..." unless it can, in fact, be proven that she was, indeed, raped. Then the entire penalty would necessarily be imposed upon the husband. Again, a "crime of passion;" but, a penalty must necessarily be given.
^ Bravo Contragrain 
Is there anything in the article that stated she filed a police report she had been raped Grumpy_Person?
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes
No. There's also nothing in the article you posted that said Roberson tried to call home over a dozen times with no answer, until his young daughter finally answered. That's when he went home to check on his wife.
There's also nothing in your article that states that Tracy Roberson was still in the LaSalle's pickup after she said she was being raped. LaSalle still had Tracy in his pickup as he was driving off. This is when he got shot.
We gripe and complain about biased and lying media, but we're not allowed to combat that by researching articles that people post without sources? The above information was obtained from a Dallas newspaper, the Star Telegram.
Now I don't know about anyone else, but if I call home, don't get an answer, then come home and find my spouse or child in someone's car crying "rape" or "help", I'm not going to stand there and let them drive off knowing the possibility exists that they could be carried of and killed.
Truth be known, I've been kidnapped before while I was at work one time. I wish to god that someone would have shot my kidnapper when I was in the backseat hollering for help. But they didn't. And my kidnappers (who were out on parole for sexual assualts at the time) were relased from prison after 4 years and are back on the streets to do it again.
I have sympathy for the guy who got killed over what turned out to be a big lie. But I can't fault the husband for doing what he thought was saving his wife's life.
^ from reading your above comment, you believe that the wife allegedly stated that she was raped, again, we only have the husband's statement that the wife told him that.
Now, again, the article still does not provide all the necessary information (and I doubt all the facts will ever be known), we all can only continue to speculate.
Also, again, the wife as stated by her murdering husband, was found in the house wearing a robe, and the victim was allegedly in his truck attempting to drive away when he was murdered by the husband.
Now G_P, how was it that the wife was in danger and the husband had to save her life by killing a fleeing victim?
"^ from reading your above comment, you believe that the wife allegedly stated that she was raped, again, we only have the husband's statement that the wife told him that."
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes
No, we have the wifes statement also. Like I said, she filed a report with police stating that she was being raped. This matches up with what she told her husband. There's no allegedly to it. This should be in writing on the police report.
"Also, again, the wife as stated by her murdering husband, was found in the house wearing a robe, and the victim was allegedly in his truck attempting to drive away when he was murdered by the husband."
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes
Read the article that you posted:
"Roberson's husband, Darrell, arrived home from a card game to find his wife — clad in only a robe and underwear — with LaSalle outside in a pickup truck, prosecutors allege."
Tracy was outside with LaSalle. They were in his pickup. She was wearing a robe and underwear. Understanding punctuation can make all the difference. If the hyphens are confusing, try some commas from the article that I read:
"When he arrived, Roberson saw his wife, clad in a robe and underwear, with a man in a Chevrolet Silverado pickup, police have said. After Tracy Roberson claimed that the man was trying to rape her, her husband fired four shots at the vehicle as the man tried to drive away with his wife, police have said."
"Now G_P, how was it that the wife was in danger and the husband had to save her life by killing a fleeing victim?"
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes
The answers are above. The husband only knew what the wife had told him, which was the same thing that she filed in the police report. I think I'm safe to assume that he thought a rapist was driving off with his wife.
Now I'm not sure anymore. Before I thought the person who pulled the trigger must be guilty too, but did he get faulty information and react to it? Or what?
Apparently so, skylab. He was just reacting to what his wife led him to believe was happening.
Voted : Here are my thoughts...
The problem with the Texas Justice System is that it, like everything else in Texas, it is run by Texans.
I mean George Bush is from Texas, right? How much more do you need to know?
The problem with the Texas Justice System is that it, like everything else in Texas, it is run by Texans.
by margaret123
Yep. That's the way we like it and we're pround of it. The people run the show. Fortunately most of our politicians, with the exeption of Bush, don't look at us like a bunch of sheep who need Mommy Government to tell them how to do things.
And ya know, that's about the same as saying that the problems in Africa are because it's run by Africans. Like I said earlier, culturalism is not much different than racism.
To claim to be so tolerant, some of the people here are some of the most bigoted and perceptively blind that I've ever seen. Wake up, travel the world, and see things as for how they really are instead of letting news outlets tell you what they want you to think.
Voted : The Wife is guilty...
The wife is 100% responsible for this man's death. If someone was raping my wife or my daughter I would kill them without hesitation. She should have admited she was a whore to her husband and faced the consequences of her actions but instead she lied and it cost a man his life.
The above guest comment was by me, Grumpy_Person. I've having trouble signing in for some reason.
Thanks to whoever posted it. :)
First of all G_P, I have and continue to travel abroad, maybe you should follow your own advice (I don't know what traveling has to do with the ballot)
Again, you continue to miss the entire point, no where in the article states that the wife filed a police report, no where, also, it is the husband who stated (in the article) that the wife told him she was being raped (well, being or been raped, which one was it?), the husband's statement does not mean that what he alleges is the truth.
I can only go by what is in the article, you on the otherhand is see more than what is there. Now, if you have other information regarding this incident, do share with a follow up article.
I don't believe a great deal that is reported through the media, your assumption of that is just that, a mere assumtption and get a grip about the bigoted, perceptively blind non sense, your senseless name calling is juvenile at best...please try to stick to the facts of the ballot article, if you would be so incline...
"Yep. That's the way we like it and we're pround of it."
Texas, where they're proud of things civilized people are ashamed of.
Texas is just Mexico with rednecks, just another Third World Country, that drags down the rest of the U.S. down.
JohnnyReb is right. You guys who would stand by and let your wife's rapist get away are not real men.
Oh yeah, you are a real man Bostonian, and it is always the radical far out in left field maniac neoCONS milking a metaphor about their women being raped by every man that doesn't look like themselves...
How sick and pathetic is that? I'll tell how, its damn pathethic and I will go on the record to say, if these women enjoy those types, they are definitely the poster women for rape prevention...
You ASSume too much from the article Boston, you have made statements that are not facts in evidence and NOT in the article and when I point that out to you, you reduce the conversation to name calling, I sugguest you take your toys, go home and sleep it off...
"you are a real man Bostonian"
-BBC-
You said it!
Only chronologically Boston, intellectually/emotionally/socially, well, thats another matter, 3 infact...
I don't know what traveling has to do with the ballot
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes
People tend to learn more and learn how to view things from another's perspective when they do. It lends more to tolerance. I've traveled all over the place. I don't agree with some of the things that I've seen, but because I've been there and have interacted, I understand the motives and you'll never catch me stereotyping a state, country, culture, or group of people.
"Again, you continue to miss the entire point, no where in the article states that the wife filed a police report, no where, also, it is the husband who stated (in the article) that the wife told him she was being raped (well, being or been raped, which one was it?), the husband's statement does not mean that what he alleges is the truth.
I can only go by what is in the article, you on the otherhand is see more than what is there. Now, if you have other information regarding this incident, do share with a follow up article."
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes
Again, I see more than what is there because I read the Star Telegram where this was also reported. It gave facts that your article left out. Isn't looking at only one article a little biased? It's not much different than watching Fox news and then thinking you have all the facts.
"Texas is just Mexico with rednecks, just another Third World Country, that drags down the rest of the U.S. down."
by cranky
Great job cranky. Seeing how the majority of the Texas population is Mexican and Tejano, I'd say that's just about as racist as anything.
Saying that Mexicans are dragging the U.S. down is no different than saying *gasp* blacks are dragging the U.S. down.
^Grumpy: My comment that the problem with the TDCJ is that it is run by t
Texans was tongue-in-cheek.
However, with regard to your claim that Mexicans are dragging the U.S. down is like saying Blacks are dragging the U.S. down, I disagree.
When a person claims Mexicans are dragging us down, they are obviously (I'd thought) referring to the problem with illegal immigration. Mexican is a national identity. Black is a racial identity. I haven't heard anyone claim that Latinos are dragging us down.
Understood, margaret. But honestly the way it's looked at here and in Mexico is that of a racial identity. Basically it depends on how you define race and the large majority here look at "race" as a culture classed by nationality or geographic distribution and not so much as the scientific anthropological definition. It may be different in other places, but here when you ask a Mexican what race they are, they'll/we'll proudly tell you "Mexican". At least the older generation who are proud of their national identity will.
"I haven't heard anyone claim that Latinos are dragging us down."
To be honest, I havent either. And it's because people usually use the word "Mexican" instead. "Dirty Mexican" is a common slur among racist individuals here. And they're not talking about Puerto Ricans or any other Latinos when they say it either. :(
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