COMMENTS:
Voted : No
Fucking hell. I thought we had some stupid fuckers here in the UK, but you have some really fucked up idiots in your country. I feel for you cranky, but keep strong, you will prevail...
Wouldnt it be fun if Herzog was here to debate this one with you eh? You wont get any disagreement from the overwhelmingly liberal users left on the site, thats for sure.
So, congratulations, everyone left on the site agrees with you. Isnt it fun when we all agree with one another?
Well, Im no Republican, but I guess its my duty as one of the few semi-conservative users left on this gay hippy site to heckle you a little, so;
"In some cases, federal agents may want to let a sale go forward to avoid compromising an ongoing investigation"
Hidden away as it is, users may be forgiven for failing to realise that THIS is the crux of the article. Until they actually do something, no individual, whetehr suspected of terrorism or not, should be locked up indefinitely. As a liberal Im sure you will agree with that. Hence, it is often necessary for the authorities let terrorist suspects go about their business until they have accumulated enough evidence.
Now, if you were one of these terrorist suspects, and you actually WERE a potential terorist, wouldnt you find it slightly suspect ifm having no prior convictions, you were refused the constitutionally protected right to buy a gun? Dont you think that might give you a hint that you were being monitored?
So, regardless of your provactive title, there really isnt as much to this ballot as you suggests.
Your old nemesis Herzog would have pointed that out, if he hadnt been driven off the site.
No, this is the crux of the article.
"In a letter this week to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, NRA executive director Chris Cox said the bill, offered last week by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., "would allow arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights based on mere 'suspicions' of a terrorist threat.""
The NRA isn't howling about this based on any practical consideration, they just want to make sure that terrorists' gun rights are protected. Essentially, they are selfishly willing to put the U.S. at risk of another 9/11, just to make sure that there isn't a single limitation on weapon ownership in America.
NewGirl:
Then why can "innocent" people be kept off of airplanes?
until I have proof, he must be considered 'innocent'.
Newgirl, don't confuse life with court. Suspicion can also save your life.
KinggayhippyAl: Hezog was not driven from this site. His parents took away his computer privileges and made him get a job. Perhaps you could "take him in" and lend him your computer.
Voted : Yes
Yes, I agree with them.
I am against the idea of taking away the rights of a citizen for being a 'suspect'. A suspect should be treated as innocent until proven guilty, should be given a fair trial.
This is not a mere violation of the 2nd ammendment to the US constitution, it is a violation of the US code of 'innocent until proven guilty.'
So until someone is proven of being or have done something, it seems stripping them of their rights, treating them unequally in regards to the constitution, and assuming guilt is undesriable; so of course I agree with the NRA on this one.
Can't you see the difference between a 'suspected' terrorist and an individual of which there is solid proof that they are a terrorist or have terrorist motives? Can't you see the difference? Isn't it the norm to persecute a person after they have been proven of a crime?
Oh and of course herzog was driven off this site unjustly.
Wait a minute, surely this is too ironic?!
Arent these sort constitutional rights/liberties the ones that the LIBERALS are supposedely trying to support, and the Bush administration is covertly trying to strip away?
Just shows how the desire to be contrary to your enemies point of view can warp your own views eh?
"Careful, lest in hating you become that which you most despise"
Voted : No
Excuse me while I confirm my one-way ticket to Nunavuat...
Voted : No
But if terrorists can buy guns, they should end Patriot Act restrictions on the rest of the Bill of Rights.
Voted : Yes
Until somebody gives me a better (i.e. more specific) definition for "suspect," I'm gonna have to say yeah, I do agree. That said, I do think gun control should be tightened, but not to the point where suspects are completely denied rights without reason.
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