result #116612 - RUSSIA CLAIMS NORTH POLE AS ITS OWN

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RUSSIA CLAIMS NORTH POLE AS ITS OWN


[+] serious ballot by Kev24
created Wed Aug 01, 07
An audacious Russian mission to claim the North Pole for Moscow is due to reach its climax in the next 24 hours, after a week-long journey through thick ice-sheets.

Two Russian vessels - including an atomic icebreaker - are expected to reach the Pole this afternoon.

There they will release two mini-submarines which will drop a metal tube containing a Russian flag onto the seabed. The release is likely to take place tonight or tomorrow morning, according to organisers.

The gesture, while symbolic, marks an escalation of the growing international dispute over who owns the Lomonosov Ridge, a 1,240 mile underwater mountain range that crosses the polar region. It is thought to contain rich oil and gas deposits.

Moscow believes the research mission will prove that the ridge is a geological extension of Russia, and can therefore can be claimed by Russia under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

Denmark believes that the ridge is in fact an extension of the Danish territory of Greenland.

The US and Canada are also anxious to defend their Arctic territory, with both planning billion-pound investments in new patrol ships.


^ so the old russia is back it seems. it's their attempt to grab the natural resources. so do you think russia has a right to declare that the north pole belongs to them?

no, the north pole does not belong to russia 10
i'll comment below 3
yes, the north pole belongs to russia 2

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Voted : no, the north pole does not belong to russia
could be war --

The expedition comes amid an outpouring of nationalist fervour after Russian scientists claimed in May that they had evidence to back up a long-held claim to nearly one million miles of the Arctic.

If upheld, Russia could have access to oil and gas deposits potentially worth more than £1 trillion.

In a speech on a nuclear ice-breaker earlier this year, President Vladimir Putin urged greater efforts to secure Russia's "strategic, economic, scientific and defence interests" in the Arctic.


putin is an animal. a killer and an evil dictator.

by Kev24 on Wed Aug 01, 07 6:48am [+]

Voted : i'll comment below
Santa Claus owns The North Pole, case closed
by larrynelmira on Wed Aug 01, 07 7:04am [+]

Voted : no, the north pole does not belong to russia
And Antarctica doesn't belong to the US either, no matter how much we may claim. Cosmic p*ssing contest, nothing more.
by Truthseeker013 on Wed Aug 01, 07 8:13am [+]

Why not just make it international territory, a big free-for-all?
by Guest User from [70.189.57.223] on Wed Aug 01, 07 8:13am [+]

^ i don't recall us ever claiming antartica is ours. in fact i think it's pretty much one giant international science expidition. can you show where we've ever claimed that?
by Kev24 on Wed Aug 01, 07 8:26am [+]

yeah we all saw this coming.

that's what happens when a former secret police chief becomes the premier of a country.

by LCD on Wed Aug 01, 07 8:35am [+]

I looked at the "United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea" and it seems (I had some problems understanding the text) that, if their claims that the Lomonosov Ridge is an extension of their land are true, they are entitled to claim sovereignty over that territory. However, according to paragraph 8 (art. 76), the issue will be settled by the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf.
by johann_moritz on Wed Aug 01, 07 8:51am [+]

Oh, and I agree on all it's been said about Putin.
by johann_moritz on Wed Aug 01, 07 9:03am [+]

Voted : no, the north pole does not belong to russia
Robert Peary and Matt Henson beat them to it by about a hundred years.




^^ Even worse things happen when a former secret police chief becomes the president of a country.
by _Beelzebubba on Wed Aug 01, 07 9:14am [+]

"Moscow believes the research mission will prove that the ridge is a geological extension of Russia, and can therefore can be claimed by Russia under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea."

Yeah right. How long before they back off following the threat of economic sanctions and the military threat by the US?
by aya on Wed Aug 01, 07 9:14am [+]

There is no way they can possibily retain control over the artic
by aya on Wed Aug 01, 07 9:14am [+]

Kev, we do claim it entirely, and deny all other international claims. We's some greedy sumbugs chere in 'merica.
by Truthseeker013 on Wed Aug 01, 07 12:24pm [+]

aya said: "How long before they back off following the threat of economic sanctions and the military threat by the US?"

Well, from what I've seen, US did not sign the treaty that allows Rusiia to claim the North Pole. Therefore, US is free to deny russian claims under any circumstances, unless US recognises the authority of the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf.
by johann_moritz on Wed Aug 01, 07 12:44pm [+]

truthseeker, i have never once read or heard that we claimed antartica. can you supply a link to a fact on that? i seriously doubt it's accurate since i read all the time about all the international camps in antartica. some factual news source would be appreciated.
by Kev24 on Wed Aug 01, 07 2:32pm [+]

sorry truthseeker, but you're mistaken. the united states has never laid claim to antartica --


The name Antarctica comes from the Greek antarktikos (ανταρκτικός), meaning "opposite to the Arctic." Although myths and speculation about a Terra Australis ("Southern Land") date back to antiquity, the first confirmed sighting of the continent is commonly accepted to have occurred in 1820 by the Russian expedition of Mikhail Lazarev and Fabian Gottlieb von Bellingshausen. However, the continent remained largely neglected for the rest of the 19th century because of its hostile environment, lack of resources, and isolated location.

The Antarctic Treaty was signed in 1959 by twelve countries; to date, forty-five countries have signed the treaty. The treaty prohibits military activities and mineral mining, supports scientific research, and protects the continent's ecozone. Ongoing experiments are conducted by more than 4,000 scientists of many nationalities and with different research interests.


in fact truth, the nations that do lay claim to antartica are --

argentina
australia
chile
france
new zeland
norway
the united kingdom


i knew the usa never laid claim to it.
by Kev24 on Wed Aug 01, 07 2:38pm [+]

"The treaty prohibits military activities and mineral mining, supports scientific research, and protects the continent's ecozone." by Kev 24

Which is exactly why we weren't interested. You see, we're only interested in acquiring new territory if we can rape it of its resources.
by nuckinfutz on Thu Aug 02, 07 10:56am [+]

Voted : i'll comment below
It seems pretty clear from the oceanographic map on Wikipedia that this ridge is a 'Mid-Oceanic Ridge' and by definition part of the Artic Ocean... not part of a continent at all. If that is the case then there can't be much chance of finding oil or gas there. Perhaps I'm missing something! On the other hand, Russia seems to have a huge area of continental shelf in the Barents Sea, which would seem to be prospective.
by Guest User from [86.9.22.60] on Tue Aug 07, 07 2:48pm [+]






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