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U.S. CONSTITUTION: DO YOU THINK THE FOUNDING FATHERS ENVISIONED...


[+] serious ballot by thesoothsayer
ACTIVE May 02,2008 - Sat May 02, 09
...One Family spending more than Eight years in the White House ? We're talkin' first family here...

I don't think they stayed up at night worrying about it 4
They didn't think about a "tag team" scenario 2
They thought a 2 term limit was adequate 0
They didn't care as long as it was a different family member 0
they left a loop hole open 0

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Voted : I don't think they stayed up at night worrying about it
Considering that John Adams (2nd) and John Quincy Adams (6th) were father and son and that the number of terms a president could serve wasn't limited until after FDR (22nd amendment, 1951), I don't think they really cared. What mattered was your qualifications were and your ability to get elected and lead the country. I think that both the Adams family (ha ha) and FDR served the country admirably.

by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri May 02, 08 3:28pm [+]

^^So in other words, They didn't care as long as it was a different family member ?
by thesoothsayer on Fri May 02, 08 3:36pm [+]

Voted : They didn't think about a "tag team" scenario
They never envisioned... Women Voting. Let alone running for Office.
by UncleRandy on Fri May 02, 08 3:42pm [+]

They didn't care whether it was a different family member or the same one. You also asked about founding fathers and I pointed out a father and son team that were obviously "founding fathers". They also didn't include any type of term limits. Additionally, Presidents other than FDR (U.S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelt) have sought to be elected to a third term or a term longer than 8 years, but they were not successful.

I don't see anything wrong with this at all. To suggest even implicitly that this is some type of third term for Bill Clinton is demeaning to women and sexist. It implies that Hillary is somehow not her own woman and that Bill will be the one pulling the strings. Hillary has demonstrated quite well that she is more than capable on her own. She's certainly demonstrated this in the US Senate. On the presidential campaign trail, she has usually done better when Bill Clinton stays out of the limelight.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri May 02, 08 4:22pm [+]

^^Is that why she dropped the "Rodham" ? Do you really think she would even have been able to win in New york had she not been know as Bill's wife, the first Lady ?
by thesoothsayer on Fri May 02, 08 5:12pm [+]

(after the 22nd amendment) from idebatedotorg...
The Presidency is different from almost any other kind of office in the US. Senators and Congressmen don’t have term limits because their voices are balanced by opposition in their respective chambers; the President has no comparable counterbalance. The nearest analogy would be with state governors - many of which have term limits, too. This is because the role of the individual in such ‘head of executive’ functions is of such importance that pure democracy - unlimited terms - must be tempered by the fear of ‘elective dictatorship’ - a strong President using the undoubted advantages of incumbency to win election after election. America’s beginnings are based in a rejection of monarchy and of cronyism: the 22nd Amendment stops this from coming about by other means.
by thesoothsayer on Fri May 02, 08 5:23pm [+]

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