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karma up for a great ballot.
by lcd on Sun Apr 25, 04 6:12pm
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Yes, and go over to the "AZN's" ballot to see plenty of it in action. Racism's still racism, regardless of what color the racist happens to be. Past (or present) discrimination doesn't give someone a carte blanche to ideologically recreate the Nazi party. Louis Farrakhan routinely makes the most insanely antisemitic statements imaginable, stuff they'd be ashamed to post on the Storm Front website, but Louie gets a free ride in the press for the most part.
Watch some of the Black Comedians on BET and the Comedy Channel.
They rip Whites and nobody complains.
Yet for White Comedians, Ethnic humor is Totally Off Limits.
You can't bring it up, I have a bad experince because I had a kid named Marcus on my football team, (now before you make judgement this is the only black person i've ever had a problem with.) He came to my school acting all be and ghetto impressing all the stupid white kids on my team i saw through it because his mom was a lawyer and drove a brand new Volvo, you can't keep it real in a Volvo. Well i told him to shut the fuck up one day because he never stoped tallking smack and the next day i find myself in detention because he said i made a racist slur, i didn't but it didn't seem to matter so yeah there is a double standerd, and i hate.
I can not believe this ballot calls for a karma up...The opinion regarding Jesse Jackson or Louis Farrakhan words could be deemed racist is subjective and most certainly could be objectionable by those whom live experiences may differ a great deal from teh author of this ballot and those whom may agree with the author. Yes, this ballot maybe provocative in its context, however, if I may venture to say, it may also cause many to be insulted. If you educate yourself about Louis Farrakhan and Jesse Jackson,then you will begin to see that neither comes close to what the Klan stands for.
People feel sorry for the blacks and they can get away with whatever they want. What would ever happen if there was a WET (white entertainment television) where white people made fun of blacks all the time? The blacks would go nuts and the people on the show would be called racists and bigot and all that. This double standard is bullshit.
Don't question my education based on this poll, what this poll states is exactly what the problem with society, babycakes. And your problem with this poll is a direct indication of a disturbing fact about society in general.
You are brainwashed by liberalistic idealism, the idea that we should be allowed to hold up a race based on a color of skin while trying to avoid the bad things that can be attributed to skin color. How would you feel about a National Association for the Advancement of White People?
Would that go over well? Would everyone support and cherish an organization that works to promote a specific sector of society solely on the basis of the color of one's skin? Not a chance... yet, as a society we are supposed to not only accept things like this, but embrace them? That is true insanity to me.
You have every right to disagree with this poll, that's why I made it, to stir things up, and if that's what it does, fantastic.
You can argue that Jesse Jackson has done a lot of good, but he has also said some things that should have never been stated. But Louis Farrakhan on the other hand is the absolute definition of a racist, if push comes to shove I can show you many, many examples of the ridiculous racist comments he has made regarding everything from black rights to those of the Jewish faith. He is a pathetic man rattling the empty can of hypocrisy.
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That is your opinion Jappy about Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan, its racist remarks like YOURS that has made this site insensitve and insulting to others. You are the brainwashed one with this pathetic and insulting ballot...Your words and uneducated viewpoint regarding both individuals prove my point as well. However, I am not surprised.
Nice try... but you can't turn around what I've stated to make me look uneducated when I've simply shined a light on a dirty little part of left wing bullshit. You are the one who turns a blind eye towards a double standard that is eating away at the very thing that those who fight racism cannot stand, reverse racism and those like you who justify it.
Jappy, your opinion is that both indulge in racist speech...My opinion is that this is nothing more than an attempt to go through the back door and post a racist ballot in which it appears that LCD gave you a karma boost for. You know nothing about either man you suggest are racist because if you did, you would never have compared them to the Klan. This is a RACIST ballot, period, nothing more, nothing less. This has nothing to do with politics, so, your claiming that my Liberalism is the reason for my opinion is ridiculous...You are in denial and uneducated about the subject, yes, that is not only my opinion, but also my observation from your uneducated and racist ballot.
Ever notice the way white people dance? And what's up with the way they walk with their butt cheeks all clenched up and shit?
LOL...Stewie, I can assure you that does not apply to me as being a Caucasian, don't believe me, ask my lovely wife. However, funny, funny, funny...LOL
Yea totally. And whats up with the color of they're skin? I mean c'mon! WHITE!? Dat.be.wack.yo.
Words of love, peace and brotherhood from Louie Farce-a-klan: "They are the greatest controllers of Black minds, Black intelligence. They write the scripts -- the foolish scripts on television that our people portray. They are the movie moguls that feature us in these silly, degrading, degenerate roles. The great recording companies that portray our people in such a filthy and low-rating way, yet they would not allow such a man as Michael Jackson to say one word that they thought would besmirch their reputation, but they put us before the world as clowns and as purveyors of filth. No, I will fight that."
More universal compassion and kindness from Louie, Louie Farce-a-klan: "And you do with me as is written, but remember that I have warned you that Allah will punish you. You are wicked deceivers of the American people. You have sucked their blood. You are not real Jews, those of you that are not real Jews. You are the synagogue of Satan, and you have wrapped your tentacles around the U.S. government, and you are deceiving and sending this nation to hell. But I warn you in the name of Allah, you would be wise to leave me alone. But if you choose to crucify me, know that Allah will crucify you."
Gentle words of cultural exchange and understanding, from a fellow whose "live experiences may differ a great deal from teh author of this ballot": "I believe that for the small numbers of Jewish people in the United States, they exercise a tremendous amount of influence on the affairs of government. Yes, they exercise extraordinary control, and black people will never be free in this country until they are free of that kind of control."
It should also be noted that Louie has authorized publication of an entire book placing the majority of the blame upon Jews for the American slave trade and for all major ills suffered by blacks in the U.S. today. Of course, his entire branch of Islam believes whites were created as part of an experiment gone awry by a mad scientist/divine being named "Yakub" and involving gathering up all of the evil in the universe into a concentrated humanoid form.
...But, leave it to ill-informed lefties like Barbie to defend such a human slug. He's no doubt getting the portrait of Lenin ready for the annual May Day parade, but, hopefully, he or the missus Cake can address this weighty matter of why he sees fit to declare anyone who points out the unpleasant facts about Farce-a-klan a "racist."
There is nothing remotely racist about this poll... it's absolutely pathetic that anyone would think there would be. I merely stated a FACT, and that fact remains... about changing the word black to white in someone's speech. I ask you, how is that 'racism'??? I find it hilarious that you label your own fear of discovery as someone elses racism, cakes, because, just like reverse racists, you should be pointing that disgusting finger of hate back at yourself.
Jappy, you haven't a clue regarding race or anything socially resembling the subject matter. You are the one with the disgusting finger pointing at two individuals that you have not one moment of their life experiences to offer such a ridiculous RACIST ballot opinion. You buddy are clueless...Now, there maybe those here on this site that may find you delightful...I on the other hand regret ever FINDING you period. Go read for approximately 20 years on the subject and interact with people of color more and maybe, just maybe you will have a better sense and understanding of both people you miscategorized with the likes of one of your groups you sound like you are affilated with, the Klan...What not only a uninformed ballot, it to is a filthy RACIST ballot as well - Arrivederci
wow, babycakes, you are completely wrong about this ballot... I'm really shocked about how personal you are taking this, you are being rather insultive too. I understand exactly what jappy is saying here, in my school it's perfectly fine for minorities to talk crap and make crude and disgusting comments about those of european american decent, and it's wrong, that's just as racist as derogatory comments about blacks. And yes, Jesse Jackson, that Farakan dude, and many other public figures who are minorities have said a lot of things that stink of bigotry.
Are european americans innocent these days? Not a chance, there are still and probably always will be those who are bigots, but just as true there are african american bigots also, and Jesse Jackson may just be stereotypical, but Farakan is a big time racist.
First of all Felix the RAT, I did not at anytime stated that Louis Farrakhan was not a racist. My point is simply this...Who are you and Jappy to decide who is a racist and who is not? America is one BIG RACIST melting pot. Geoger Bush Jr. and his daddy are known RACIST. America has had many President that not only were RACIST but also owned SLAVES. The last time I checked, neither Farrakhan or Jackson chased anyone out of their home, beat them, lynched them and/or any of the other brutal acts committed by the Klan against Blacks and other people that the Klan deemed non white and/or pure. To compare Farrakhan and Jackson to the Klan or being racist, it most ridiculous, insulting, and perhaps even obsence. Therefore, before one takes it upon themselves to accuse others who have been systemically treated less than human beings as RACIST, one needs to take the time to educate themselves as to why others feel, believe and behave as they do. You see, it is so very easy for others who may never have experienced what others have at the hands of those who HATE to criticize, lie on, distort the facts, and assume. Say what you will about me and those whom YOU disparage unfairly and with great zeal and ignorance. However, whatever you put out into the world, the same will be returned in 10 folds. Arrivederci!
Wrong, Personal and Insulting you say Jenny? Well now, First of all, you go and read the racist comments of Jappy and you tell me who became insulting with the name calling...Then, you tell me how it is that I am incorrect regarding my assessment of this ballot. I do not take it personally about Jappy exercising his right to freedom of expression. However, I do object to Jappy claiming that both Jackson and Farrakhan are no different than the Klan. Again, the opinion shared in this ballot are subjective and are based on ones own life experience. The idea that Jappy and Felix can take the words of others and claim that if someone else were to say the same it would be deemed RACIST is nothing more than distort the facts. One would have to consider why the statements are being made, who is making the statements and what actions and/or behaviors of others caused these statements to be made. You can not simply assume that people are RACIST without knowing the true definition of the word. Now, go look up the word and tell me that either or both Farrakhan and Jackson fit the bill. Arrivederci!
You are 17 years old Jenny
and you are going to educate me on the world of race? I find that to be quite revealing and interesting to say the least. However, you have the constitutional right to freedom of express and I must inform you that, I have lived alot longer than you have and know, I venture to say, a tad more than you do regarding the subject matter, not to imply however that you have nothing empirical to add to this provocative subject. Arrivederci!
Wow, I'm beyond trying to reason with you babycakes, you are beyond ignorant now, you are just plain stupid.
A person's life experiences do NOT give them the RIGHT to say the things that Louis Farrakhan says, so quit trying to give a free pass for a person to be a biggoted hate monger based on his upbringing, that's a pathetic excuse.
Color of skin should never be used as a determinant to put someone down, BUT LIKEWISE, it should also never be used as a consideration to lift someone up. We as one people should look past skin color to see inside of each person as an individual, not look at a person's skin to stereotype them, whether it be a flattering or insulting stereotype.
Your problem is that you refuse to see this ballot for what it is, that it pulls the covers off of a disturbing aspect of society. You believe that people should be given benefits based on the color of their skin.
I believe that by giving benefits based on skin color you invite stereotypes and racism from both sides because you put a seperation, a division, by validating differences in skin color. Benefits based on color divide is just another form of racism, and you absolutely refuse to admit it, regardless of the fact that it is true.
I ask you again, because you refuse to answer, how would you feel about the National Association for the Advancement of White People? I would be highly insulted by it, as should anyone. But we should also ask ourselves about the creation or sustinance of any organization based on color.
What this ballot does, is poses the question: In a society where we have worked so hard to eliminate differences based on race, why suddenly are we trying to exploit them for the advantages of any race at all?
And another thing, you may not like me, I could care less, your comments from time to time smack of pathetic jealousy, and I really don't know why, I stay out of these idiotic karma fights that you all love to have with one another. I don't know what your deal is, or why you have taken such a hatred towards me. I imagine it's because I'm going to surpass All Hail and be the first person to do that, just as I was first to reach All Powerful. Please, don't allow your petty jealousy or inadequacies cloud your judgement when commenting on my fine ballots in the future, thank you : )
You must be kidding about the jealousy factor, I almost wet my pant when you made that comment. I could not care less about you reaching the karma of GOD. The point is, this ballot is a back door RACIST ballot, you have stupendous day. P.S. I don't hate nor dislike you, I merely disagree with your opinion, nothing more, nothing less. Arrivederci! :)
Barbie Bolshevik ranted at length (excerpts only):
"...Who are you and Jappy to decide who is a racist and who is not? America is one BIG RACIST melting pot."
Who are YOU to state categorically someone's not? Likewise, I think, for sake of public discourse, we can decide who's making racially or ethnically inflammatory statements as an objective matter, just as a court might in a First Amendment case. Farce-a-klan regularly demonizes and reviles Jews in his public speaking engagements, in print, and in the press. I think your lot chooses to ignore such behavior as a matter of convenience, but, oh, let a conservative make a stray comment laudatory of political fossil Strom Thurmond's centennial birthday, and you're baying like hounds out for blood.
As far as the idea of some assimilation being "racist," it's common culture that holds a society together, not multiculturalism. I think Professor Samuel Huntington's about to fry your hash nicely in print within the month.
"America has had many President that not only were RACIST but also owned SLAVES."
Not since the 1850's...
"neither Farrakhan or Jackson chased anyone out of their home, beat them, lynched them and/or any of the other brutal acts committed by the Klan.." Ah, the screechy discordant strains of "victimology"! One can't be racist, because one's ancestors suffered racism. Also, the U.S. is "uniquely racist and oppressive" in such matters. In an alliterative word, Barbie Bolshevik: bullshit. Arabs first enslaved black Africans by the millions, and they were aided and abetted by various West African kingdoms (Dahomey, etc.) who regarded these conquered people as chattel. What the Spanish did in terms of genocide in North America was twenty times worse (literally) than any northern Europeans in what's now the U.S., but you won't breathe a word against Latin America, I'll bet. Let's be blunt: a racist's a racist and no history will cloak him or excuse him. That's why we have equal protection under the law...supposedly.
To sum up, while we can be aware of past racism and its current residual effects and attempt to address them, when it comes to personal morality, no one bears a "mark of Cain" based on their ancestors' actions just as no one's a philosopher-saint and their actions not subject to scrutiny because of past injustices suffered by their ancestors. You've confused two very different matters, and, if one were to follow your lead to its absurd end, Jews could walk up on any street in Berlin and shoot Germans at random, then be released without criminal charges because "one must understand their historical context."
Correct as: "What the Spanish did in terms of genocide in North & South America..."
I would have to agree with answer #4, blow the fuckers up.
If all the ranting you have done got you through your day, felix, then, good. Next time however, speak only to the issues you know and experienced first hand. That way, you sound more believeable and can offer valid information, ok tattoo? I think your plane is ready for your departure, now go tell BOSS - Arrivederci!
" Next time however, speak only to the issues you know and experienced first hand." In that case, Barbie Bolshevik, I could never write a word about any U.S. or world historical event that hadn't happened within my few decades on earth. I could never authoritatively write a line on Spanish colonies, for instance, because, hey, you just had to be there! All of that book-learnin' don't mean nothin' out on th' street!
Get over it. You don't "own" history or social commentary because of your background, ethnicity, or skin color.
All I will say on this issue is that Barbera_Baby_Cakes is a race baiter.
There is no such thing as "reverse" racism, only racism. Jesus, who makes up these terms?
I talked to Jesus tonite, he told me that liberals make up all the terms that normal people laugh at.
I hate the term "Reverse racism". It's ALL racism!
by Dot on Fri Oct 15, 04 8:31am
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