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They still teach that Columbus found America in public schools.
Why didnt they mention that Magellan was murdered and eaten in the Philippines and never actually made it ALL THE WAY AROUND! (Im not sure if he was eaten acutally, just sounded good)
Probably about Aliens I know that the government has them but they wont tell us because they know that people will tottally freak out.... I guess its for the best.
It seems like there's a new one every day.
It gets bigger every day too.
by x__ on Tue May 18, 04 8:13pm
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gosh, where do we start? ok, here are some crackers of lies:
-the USA won vietnam
-the USA invaded Iraq for freedom and democracy.
-the USA did not have missiles in Turkey, aimed at the USSR, when they told Krushchev to withdraw Soviet missiles from Cuba
-the USA government does not care about race, sexuality and gender
-the USA is not an enemy of the Arab world
-George bush is a good idea: a capable and tollerant ruler, who only wants peace and 'democracy' in the world.
-the 2001 election was not fixed
have i missed anything? oh wait, i'd be writing all night.
yes bloke you missed you're a fat limey prick preoccupied with America. Good luck learning paki and reading the koran! your shit, wee island is lost to the muslim scourge and you're doing a good job sticking-up for them in these ballots, guess so when they're fucking youer daughter! hahahahahaha
The part where batman lands on Plymouth Rock and then celebrates by driving around on a sled once a year to deliver toys.
Sept 11 was the "perfect opportunity" for Bush to get his long planned agenda through. All he had to do is tell the simple-minded masses that he is doing it to "protect" them from more terrorism and it's a done deal! He can get away with just about anything using that same hollow promise of safety. Problem is that Bush's simplistic answer "that they attacked us because they hate freedom" really got sucked up by the simple minded masses. Do your homework instead of being lazy asses and buying into this admins bettered bullshit.
Leaders who make War should be required to have participated in one...
I like that dakotadove.
Why so much hostility towards the US British Bloke? your leader kisses our leader's ass, and our leader is a loser.
That Nick Berg hoax sure got swept under the carpet pretty quick.
Oops, should have painted the walls and bought different lawn furniture.
waki_paki, i said 'have i missed anything?' implying 'were there any lies i missed out of my list?' if the fact that i am a 'fat limey prick obssessed with america' is a lie, then thankyou for the complement, you stupid fuck. and i dont have a daughter, and even if i did, as i am not a racist prick like you, i wouldnt actually care what race then man in her life was. you need help, pal.
and duckhead, i'm not anti-american, simply unhappy with the state of affairs . my comment seemed to victimise the US a bit, but then this ballot is about the USA. if the ballot were about the British government, then i would victimise all our lies and fuckups, ie the Aden scandal, the Suez, our policy in India and Burma, the Lord Hutton whitewash etc. I am not racist like many people on this site. My cousin is American, lives in Ilinois, and a nicer girl i haveyet to meet. we just dont like your government Chill, Winston.
Fair enough British Bloke.
I guess I should have clarified in the question format. When I said "History" I meant "History" as taught in text books, not necessarily developing and still disputed history of recent times. Anyway, makes for good debates anyway.
Waki_paki - British bloke got you on that one, you dumb fuck.
British_Bloke got u there Wacky, brill' come back and funny comment
that your free. hahahaha goverment controll
he's your garden variety limey. he lives in the past and can only talk about some great English feat from 1000 years ago...so sad how these saps must feel, watching the PAKI'S take their wee rainy island, take their jobs, fucking their sisters and daughters..so they TRY to take it all out on America, but like the filthy muslims have learned, unlike limeys and europeans, WE DON'T TAKE SHIT FROM ANYONE! WE HIT BACK. FAGGOTS!
nipple bitch. go to work you lazy limey and stop complaining about pakis taking your job and fucking your mother while wearing diapers their heads! hahahaha
chicken curry innit... yes gupta...
Paki - Another classic, thanks.
British_bloke - Spot on dude.
wacky-backi - Wacki we love you, wacki we do...
gosh, we seem to have lost track of the point to this ballot havent we?
irish_scandinavian, the 'lies' i spoke of were based on a conversation with my cousin-by-marriage, who lives in Ilinois, about US foreign policy . The two versions of American history are very very different. I am not saying this is any different for any other country, i have no delusions of virtue as far as British history is concerned: we've all had our historical fuckups, like i have said.
On the subject of vietnam, i said it was an american defeat, and it was. simple as that. you failed to achive your objectives, ie stopping the spread of communism to the South, and later establishing 'democracy' in the North. This did not happen as Vietnam became a unified communist state shortly after you guys left. you cannot deny that. Like you have done, most people hide behind the numbers of casualties, or say 'but we won every firefight.' the former is irrelevent, as at the end of the day, 58 000 americans lost their lives; and the latter is not true, as many a time the US army found itself needing assistance and calling in airstrikes. Also, several bases were totally overrun during the Tet offensive, although, respect to you guys, you did get that back under 'control.' To say that if you really wanted to defeat the vietnamese you would have nuked them is also untrue. for a start, you DID want to defeat them, because who the hell invades another country for the soul purpose of loosing? also, nukung them would only start WWIII, as the itchy-trigger-fingered Russians and Chinese would have jumped right on the Nuclear band-wagon. Waki_paki, you are either joking, or are irretrevably stupid. the pakistani population of the UK is less than 1%, and the 'rainy island' thing is a myth. true, it rains, but not that much.
i dont pretend that Britain is a superpower anymore, no more than i pretend that the USA wasnt. the British empire, it is true, was the greatest yet achieved, but i know that it is over, and can face it. and it was not so long ago that we were the top dogs either. before WWII we could say 'jump' and the whole world would hit the ceiling. we were the big brother nation: we ran the show. this was true of america for about 20 years after WWII, but you soon lost it, after shameful defeat in both Vietnam and Korea . Now, you pretend to be a superpower, and your military is quite something, but people laugh at you efforts to controll the world. take Sadam Hussein: you said 'get lost you arsehole' and he said 'HAHAHAHAHAAAA kiss my middle eastern arse.' if that were the British 100 years ago, we would have made sure an idiot like Saddam never got to power in the first place. and even if he did, we would have said 'excuse me, my man, come here, drink this tea, and then surrender Iraq to our control,' and he would have said 'oh fuck. ok ok ok, just dont hurt me.' this said, the Mesopotamia did prove hard to break in 1919, when we ruled it as a league of Nations mandate. I do not pretend that this is the case today, we lost that kind of power a long time ago. so to say that i'm living in the past is not true.
hey Nipples, check-out blokes RAMBLING 99 paragraph manifesto! at least me and you get right to the point and tell each other to fuck off, this one's going on forever! My attention span is not long enough to make it through his schpeel! hahahaha
Ok, Paki: Fuck off. Happy now? hehe.
Thank you for your short and concise, "to-the-point" comment Bloke! Let's try keeping them that way!
Wacky is the classic example of the 'new' generation of moron that has grown up around the advent of the internet. He cannot make any concise or clear point, so resorts to the schoolyard and just throws his toys out of the pram. What is inevitable, is that his like, are becoming adominant feature of this site.
His views are skewed by feeling of inadequacy and a feeling of powerlessness. His future is bleak to say the least, but we must pity him and people of his ilk. Remember, he will probably be serving your next fast food burger.
As to the initial question, what is the biggest lie in American history, look at any television in any US home and you will see that the cathode ray nipple, is what is making the likes of Wacky. Adolf Hitler said it best, the bigger the lie the more people will believe it. When Wacky and his fellow McDonalds crew members are fed a diet of untruths and skewed (mostly right wing) views, and noone is there to balance and to question the propaganda fed to them, we cannot be too surprised when we hear the same 'America is Great' mantra, spewing from unquestioning lips.
What is becoming worrying, the insidious nature of the American system is oozing into British politics. We have the advantage of having many generations who have learned to question our politicians, and to protest. From my view of the average American, they seem content to believe everything they are told.
The words God Bless America, need to be altered slightly to God Save America, else it be dragged down a fundamentalist Christian path, which in itself is extreme.
I'm just wondering how can so many non-americans comment on the state of what kids are taught in school when they never have even stepped into won.
But i guess you guys have E.S.P. or something.
But if you wanted to know the biggest lie in America it's that you can't tell the difference between butter and i can't believe it's not butter.
"how can so many non-americans comment on the state of what kids are taught in school when they never have even stepped into won."
by x__ on Wed Jun 02, 04 1:05am
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My spelling does suck.
I've just got feelings about our retarded education deal, I can't spell too much either :D
by x__ on Thu Jun 03, 04 12:40am
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Well i'm form New York and it's the best in the Union when it comes to education and i'm one of the dumber kids when it comes to English and science. But i clean house in Criminal Justice.
Heh, today my teacher just told me that the cause of the Civil War was slavery.
sometimes... i wish i had never been born.
the biggest lie told is that all people are equal and no one is above the law.
total.... utter.... BULLSHIT.
there is a form of modern feaudalism in this country where the poor slave for the rich thru the usery and satanic financial institutions.
THAT IS NO LIE.
The biggest lie was saying that Clinton raped Monica, that is a cold hard lie
its a long list of lies and distortions.
"If that were the case there wouldnt have been a WW1 or WW2 would there? I think the Indians, Boers, French, middle easterners, south africans, etc. would disagree with you there also. "
we trashed the Boers, and the French, we beat the germans...TWICE. we put down the pathetic indian mutiny without lifting a finger. the only time we fought the middle easterners in any great way was in WWI, and we creamed them utterly. it was only when the turks interveened that we came up against some resistance.
WWI and WWII was beyond our control. so many happenings led to them that we could help but join in.
ok WWI: we had entered several defensive treaties in France, Russia, the Balkans etc etc and so when war was declared by Austria against some shitty little Balkans country we were dimplomatically obliged to declare war with Austria, and therefore Germany, and therefore Italy. it was unavoidable.
WWII: We tied everything we could to avoid war, but Hitler was determined to start one. he was terrified of British power, and asked for peace after Dunkirk, and dispared after the Battle of Britain. our navy thrashed theirs in every engagement.
"so korea was a defeat now?"
yes, Korea was a defeat. the UN invaded north of the 38th parallel, and were nailed by the chinese. the war did not conclude, but it was quite clear the the Allied would have been pushed off the peninsular if the war had continued.
"Saddam was trying to cut deals to the very end until US soldiers invaded the country."
yes, but he refused to bow to american pressure.
"Then he went and hid in his hole."
well, what would you do? the point was not that he was beaten, merely that American dimplomatic pressure was not great enough, and he did not fear their wrath.
"And if you had said that to a saddam of 100 years ago he would more likely say "go fuck yourselves limeys, you couldn't even beat a small brood of poorly armed American civilians. "
actually, the British weilded much more power than you say. we annexed territories without fights most of the time, and we shamelessly bullied most of the world to do our will.
the American war of independance was not a military defeat. we abandoned the colonies, because of a war in France, and because they were becoming a financial burden rather than a colonial blessing. most of the actual battles were won by the British redcoats, so to say that we were trashed by poorly armed peasants is rubbish.
this said, a dimplomatic defeat is as bad a a military defeat, and we were beaten.
i do stand by my claim that we did, at the height of our power, carry more political clout that the americans have ever done.
wtf... a) if u dont like america suck my dick... b)DIE
Hoorah go kill the enemy for free college money!
WW I was fought to "make the world safe for democracy" when in reality, considering the geopolitical situation immediately following, the outcome created a world safe for facism.
go cubs
Bush is human
Freedom of speech.
"....with liberty and justice for all."
British bloke;
excellent retort :)
good man your self!
also.. limelys?
why is this ment to be insulting? if NOT getting scurvey is good idea then feel free to insult my intelligence, you creatan (however, i AM dislexic so you CAN take the mick out of me for that:)
mufasa: thanks, old man. check out some of my ballots, you may find some interesting shit.
"British BLoke - please type slower as it is very difficult to read when you keep typing M instead of N, and COULD instead of COULDN'T"
sorry, guest, my typing is terrible. it isnt that difficult to read though, is it?
actually, we are not doing too badly in the olympics. as i remember most of the US quad failed drugs tests. at least we play fair, and win.
you are a really stupid person.
what did you win a Gold Medal in? CRY-BABIES of the world??? get a clue cry-baby UK! poo-poo..
as you ask, so far, the UK has won gold medals in Athletics, Cycling Track, Equestrian Eventing, Rowing, Sailing, Badminton, Fencing, Archery, Kyaking and Swimming.
i dont think you'll find you can actually win a medal for being a cry-baby. it isnt an olympic sport. neither is idiocy, but you seem to be doing pretty well at it. maybe if you write to the olympic comittee they'll add it to the list. but dont fail the drugs test, will you?
as we're on the subject of the olympics: the UK is the only country in the world which has attended every single Modern Olympic Games: all 120 of them.
Ya that's right. The only reason the US does well in the olympics is because all our athletes are drugged. It has nothing to do with the fact that we have excellent faciltities for our athletes and they are well funded. We also have a large population from which to pull from. Look at the Aussies, they are doing better than the Brits and they have a much smaller population. Tell me are the British newspapers screaming that the Aussies are all doped up or is that only reseverd for the US. There are many athletes from all over the world the train and live in the US and will go and compete and win medals for their own country. Maybe the Brits should look a little closer to home and realize they don't provide their athletes with the same facilities, training and funding as other countries do.
P.S. I don't mean to come off sounding like I disrespect the UK. But I am tired of hearing the only reason the US does well is because of drugs. There will always be a country that domintates in the medals. I suppose we'll eventually be bitching about the Chinese.
"as i remember most of the US quad failed drugs tests. at least we play fair, and win."
many appologies for this comment, mindy. it was a little bigoted and short sighted. of course the USA arent all drugged up, etc. you have excellent athletes.
i was merely responding to that idiot american_empire / jack_fate or whatever he is calling himself these days, who is an idiot of the first variety.
appologies again for seeming prejudiced.
That's okay British Bloke. I can understand how American empire/ Jack fate gets under your skin. Probably better to try and ingnore those types. I know it's hard but they are just looking for attention.
hehe. ok. peace.
check out some of my ballots, dude.
British_Bloke_mk_11>why do yu even bovver to argue with these ppl? they are lovin it, and u keep goin..when americans know how to be polite and know how to treat english, than argue with them..because i have visited america, and believe me..they are no way polite, i have a good friend in USA!!..and yu other americans..put america to shame..why dont yu just grow up and act ya frekkin ages for once..OH yer another thing..learn how to drive proper!! and to wacky_paki> back off yu flipping idiot! yu dont have no brains or yu have no clue what ya talkin abt..
oh and in that ballot?? yu shud of put> why are AMERICAN women such bitches..coz they are!!..and why do american women..cheat..coz american men cant handle there own kind..how sad!!!
englandgal, i would respond, but i cant understant a word you typed.
Yah, pretty stupid comment there guest. I suppose the majority of Christians, when they would see a kidnapped person in their neighborhood, and know that person is going to get their head cut off, would just ignore it, and not call the police or report it to someone, or even fucking TRY to stop it??
Yah, Islam, that's SOME religion you got there, real peaceful, peaceful while supporting terror.
If you are a freak,feel free to sound off like all that preceeded this post.
It is echoed to no end on this website that "Americans are ignorant".There is a WHOLE LOT OF IGNORANCE ABOUT THE USA OUTSIDE OF THE USA YOU FINGERPOINTERS.
US was attacked 911 because the enemy hate freedom..
biggest lie ever
"US was attacked 911 because the enemy hate freedom..
biggest lie ever "
Exactly. If the enemy hated freedom so much, they would all be turning themselves in for a comfortable jail cell.
usa wasnt attacked because they hated freedom it was attacked because they hated the yanks.
and also to waki paki, there is no such language as paki.
the spanish are taking over america
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