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Neither! It's a means for ending suffering. Just like people who have a terminal illness and are in servere pain all the time, people that are depressed are in severe EMOTIONAL pain. The pain is so hurtful that they look for a way out. It's just like the pain when you feel when your first love ends. You feel crushed and think it's the end of the world. But eventually you get over it. The diffence with depressed people is that they don't get over it. The pain stays there ALL THE TIME. Eventually you grow tired of being in pain all the time and look for a way out. Depressed poeple resort to suicide as way of ending their never ending emotional pain. It's an act of relief not cowardice. I'm mean if your arm was causing you severe pain with no relief in sight, you might be pushed over the edge and cut it off to relieve the never ending pain.
I think it is the MOST selfish act in the world. You leave behind parents who spend the rest of their lives tormented by the thought they failed you and your children are left feeling they were not important enough to you, to stick it out through the hard times. If you've got no one and you're all alone in this world, so be it but leaving people behind with ruined lives is the most selfish thing you can do.
It's a cowards way out,easier than dealing with whatever problems there are.
It can be either, or neither.
By the way, Guest_ac5b7 was me.
If anyone on here has actually tried to commit suicide, they'd know it's not a cowardly thing to do. But it's not courageous either. It's the ultimate expression of misery and it's intensly sad.
by RobL on Sun Jun 06, 04 5:59am
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it depends who you ask. it goes both ways, i think ... hurling yourself into the unknown takes more balls than some people think.
leaving family & kids behind to mourn is shitty, too.
i think people shouldn't pass judgement though, i mean it's your life.
but my christian faith dictates that it is shameful... judas iscariot commited suicide...
it's a tough one. personally i'm kind of a coard so i would never willingly take my own life. i'm just too scared it'll hurt alot and then i'll go to hell... don't know, it's just me. other people have sack full of balls and they go and off themselves. who knows?
people who commit suicide cant stand living...they must not have god in their lives other wize they would of made it threw..instead now they are in a even worse place...im sure most of us dont even need to ....see me write this horrible place...
Suicide cannot be put into black-or-white terms like cowardice, or courage. If you are leaving behind loved ones, then it is the ultimate selfish act. But staying alive just because you don't want to hurt other people's feeling isn't much of a reason to live, now is it?
Great point, Applerod.
by mojo on Tue Jun 15, 04 8:17am
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If you do a suicide mission for land and country its courageous. If you wanna kill yourself and pull down someone else its cowardly.
it all depends on the situation, if you have vital info on say the codes for a nuclear silo and you knew that in five minutes would read your mind for them and then kill you and use the code to kill millions of people or you could use cianide to kill yourself now and save millions, it would be tough but the ritgh thing to do, however it is all balanced on choice, yours, to learn the codes and thiers to use them. morlas can be such a powerful thing, dam i'm ranting again.
Several poignant insights. Much food for thought. I honestly could not categorize it.
For those of you who assert it is always cowardly: I have known of suice attempts as early as age 7. Can a child really be a coward? What problems should they be facing up to, at that age?
For those who think of it as courageous: For the individual, perhaps. But I'd be swayed by the arguments of those who point out the effects on those left behind. Then again, perhaps courage and selfishness are two unrelated measurements ...?
Wow ... stepping off the deep end with this question. ;-)
There are ways to release your suffering besides death. Like actually releasing your suffering. Depressed people can "get over it" if they get through it. You can't just try to escape pain. You have to be able to feel it.
And it "drags down" your loved ones far more when you off yourself.
The medical community doesn't know the first thing about treating depression, as long as they view it strictly as a brain disorder and refuse to look at the human being who is suffering and ask the question "why?" in terms of that human being's life.
it takes guts to off yourself.
i wonder how many of the people who voted cowardly would have the courage to do it
The cowards die many times in life. The courageous only die once.
I agree with Grapost that the answer is neither. A person who is suicidal thinks that it is the answer...what is hardest to understand is that it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You and I may understand that...but then again there's all the others in between that don't believe it.
However, you will find that many problems are PERMANENT.
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