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IS THE CONFEDERATE FLAG A SYMBOL OF HATE LIKE A SWASTIKA?


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created Tue Nov 11, 03
The Confederate flag means many things to many people. To some it's a means of honoring their ancestors who fought valiantly in battle. To others it means celebrating slavery and oppression. Because it is viewed as a negative symbol like the Swastika by SOME people, should Southern States ban it's display as some have called for?

No 156
Yes 116
It Promotes Racism 34
I Want To Celebrate My Heritage 29
It can be... Depends on the context. 25
It's a symbol of stupidity and treason 20
It's the flag of traitors 19
Hell No! It's a proud flag! Boo to Yank riff-raff! 19
Allow it only at Lynyrd Skynyrd concerts. 17
Confederate flag is a symbol of stupidity 15
It does not support Slavery-it's for freedom! 15
Both are symbols of freedom from Jews and Blacks 13
Southern Pride will never die!! 12
Not Sure 10
a Glorious and Colorful Flag, kiss dat flag..!! 7
Yes! Execute all who fly it for treason! 6
Edwards waves it high 4
Put a swastika on the Confederate Flag 4
Don't Strip The General Lee says the Dukes! 3
Too many options 3
States Should Have All The Power! 2
No, but the Koran is 1
The Swastika is not a symbol of hate. The Nazis just abused it... 1
Americans should all be liquidised 0
We need one of those in the North... 0

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COMMENTS:
No the nazi flag actually had style, the confederate flag is just dull and reresent weaklings

by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Wed Nov 12, 03 5:58pm [+]

See I think I get southerners and rednecks mixed up, its not that i hate southerners, its that i hate the confederates, which are all rednecks right
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Wed Nov 12, 03 5:59pm [+]

Confederates are gay!



THATS THE BOTTOM LINE, CAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO!
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Wed Nov 12, 03 6:01pm [+]

The Confederate flag is usually used as a symbol of southern heritage, not racism or rebellion. (Though a lot of southern states even today are rebels and wish the Confederacy had won the Civil War. If you ask me, it's dumb to think that.)
by Wark on Wed Nov 12, 03 8:38pm [+]

Gagoonies will you PLEASE stop making multiple comments ONE AFTER ANOTHER! Christ, you're annoying everybody again. You made 14 comments on this ballot alone. You're overdoing it. You should change your name to GaKunta!
by Grapost on Thu Nov 13, 03 8:00am [+]

I think it is asymbol os the rednecks who rules America.so it should replace stars and stripes.
by iwaslikeu on Fri Nov 21, 03 6:47am [+]

Better yet, just fucking get the hell out of here Gag, fuck your nazi confederate bullshit.
I burn that flag, piss on it, and then bury it in shit! Plus they make good asswipes!
by WinniethePooh on Fri Nov 21, 03 1:59pm [+]

I know that everyone who own's that flag is a bigot!
They always make savage/nigga/spic/frog and chink jokes!
Fuck the confederates, and fuck the klansmen, both of them and their 'connection'. You know what I mean!
by WinniethePooh on Tue Nov 25, 03 10:38am [+]

the only peple that think the confederate flag is a reacist symbol are the anti racist liberals. it seems like they try as hard as they can to not be racist for some reason. oh yea, its because they are fucking liberal scum. the confederate flag is a symbol of the south, so all you anti racist liberals can take your cocks out of al sharptons ass and shut your fucking mouths
by jasomat on Sun Dec 07, 03 10:58pm [+]

I've already burned hundreds, and pretty much peed on them.
You can give any lesson you like, but that flag has taken new meaning to bigots of TODAY. That means that your southern pride, or freedom of slaves history is already considered bullshit. I know what it stands for, but the people who don't are the ones taking it to wrong context and supporting klansmen like Gagoonies.
Whatever, to some it's a racist symbol, so I burn and piss on it!
And just cause at the time it was a flag representing the people that wanted to keep black people their slaves.
by WinniethePooh on Tue Dec 09, 03 2:01pm [+]

Redneck_gay_ass, its plain to see u are the one with no life, still livin in the past first of all, and u think that the south is cool,thats pretty fucking sad dude, and i live in florida, and just like the rest of the south its the shitiest place around, i can't wait until i go back to chicago
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Mon Dec 15, 03 4:46pm [+]

so u can fly ur fucking flag all u want, but the confederate rednecks will never be nothing more than an bunch of dumbass queers, gays, and losers who fuck their family members in the ass. U are just like most of them, ur probaly all talk and no walk.
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Mon Dec 15, 03 4:49pm [+]

hey do u get to eat those tasty "southern breakfasts" i hear about, u know the fresh ones
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Fri Dec 19, 03 5:41pm [+]

I overlook all the negatives. The Confederate flag stands for the states having more power rather than the federal government which is how it should be. The federal government has way to much power today. Much more than the founding fathers intended.
by Universal_President on Mon Dec 22, 03 10:22am [+]

gagoonies is racist scum.
by Psycho_Frighead on Thu Dec 25, 03 7:25pm [+]

if you got beat up pick up track and beer belly,chances are you don't got high school diploma.and u r also from Alabama or Alaska.you love the flag.BUT you are nothing.so shut up!
by xxxxxxxx on Sun Jan 04, 04 5:04pm [+]

What CSA? I believe we took care of them 100 years ago.
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Wed Jan 21, 04 1:32pm [+]

"WE" as in "AMERICA"
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Wed Jan 21, 04 1:34pm [+]

Well actually southerners aren't that bad, its those damn redneck confederates that get in the way of America!
by Da_Chicago_Jigalo on Thu Jan 22, 04 3:58pm [+]

"Well actually southerners aren't that bad, its those damn redneck confederates that get in the way of America!" There's some hope for you yet, kid...
by Felix on Tue Jan 27, 04 8:03pm [+]

if you don't know do a google search.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Jan 27, 04 11:25pm [+]

The Southern Flag is another way the south is an embarrassment to the rest of the country. Keep on believing it stands for state's rights. It stands for a group that took up arms against their own country, a traitorous group, and is nothing to be proud of. I'm glad my ancestors fought and killed those defending slavery.
by Bruno on Tue Feb 03, 04 12:21pm [+]

Neither the Flag or Swastika is a symbol of hate. The Swastika is a symbol of universal peace and prosperity. The flag has nothing to do with slavery, it just happened to be around at the same time.
by Kendrijk on Mon Feb 09, 04 8:36am [+]

The South has issues and they take it out on minorities and those not thumping bibles like them.
by docletot on Thu Feb 12, 04 6:36pm [+]

"The Southern Flag is another way the south is an embarrassment to the rest of the country. Keep on believing it stands for state's rights. It stands for a group that took up arms against their own country, a traitorous group, and is nothing to be proud of. I'm glad my ancestors fought and killed those defending slavery." Treason's only treason when you lose. Otherwise, I'm sure Thomas Jefferson, Franklin, Paine and the rest would have been swinging from stout British hemp ropes back in London in 1780. By the way, I'm thrilled my ancestors shot over half a million of you bastards. If they'd known the 2nd-class treatment the South would get and continuous revilement, they would have probably dynamited every structure in sight and armed women, old men, and 9-year-old boys with hatchets for dismembering as many carpetbaggers as possible. Too bad you couldn't have your way during Reconstruction: as many countries have discovered, ancient and modern, it's a lot easier to defeat an enemy militarily than successfully occupy the place and reorder its society afterwards. So, it was a case of winning the war, and losing the peace.
by Felix on Sun Feb 15, 04 9:52am [+]

The flag is for Heritage I am proud that I am from the South. The slavery issue was from the North to gain support for there cause. I have known black that admit that there familles where slave owners. There familles fought for the South. Most blacks that fought for the north were conspires while those that fought for the south did so be choice and for there southern pride
by jason3791 on Sun Feb 15, 04 9:55am [+]

it's getting there
by matje on Wed Feb 18, 04 6:21am [+]

no cuz i have both on my backpack at school and no one fucks w/ me
by Norwegian_Boy on Wed Feb 18, 04 9:18am [+]

I'm gonna laugh when a black dude fucks you up good.
by Kendrijk on Mon Mar 01, 04 1:43pm [+]

"The Union and Abraham Lincoln were the equivalent of the Nazis if you ask me."

Excellent point, Richmond_Native. In fact, Abraham Lincoln built what was perhaps the earliest concentration camp in history, in upstate New York. It held ex-Confederates for years after war's end.
by The_Revisionist on Mon Apr 05, 04 2:14am [+]

The Confederate battle flag was modeled after the cross of St. Andrew - the ethnic flag of Scotland. It reflects the dominant Scottish heritage of many Southerners.
by The_Revisionist on Mon Apr 05, 04 2:18am [+]

Also, the Confederate flag became a favorite symbol of the Baltic peoples in their late 80s-early 90s struggle to free themselves of Soviet shackles.
by The_Revisionist on Mon Apr 05, 04 2:19am [+]

The White working class is not to blame for slavery. Only those who could afford to own slaves did so, and most of those who did so were Jews. So, there you have it Black folk. Go hit up the Jews for some reparations. Lord knows they have the money!
by The_Revisionist on Mon Apr 05, 04 2:25am [+]

And what of your own colored brethren in Africa who sold your ancestors into slavery in the first place? Why not go after the "real" culprits, or at least those who are closer to the crime?
by The_Revisionist on Mon Apr 05, 04 2:28am [+]

It reminds me of a great bumper sticker, which reads: "If I knew things would have turned out this way, I'd have picked my own God-damned cotton!"
by The_Revisionist on Mon Apr 05, 04 2:30am [+]

Yes and no, the flag means so many different things to so many differne people. I personally feel that it honors everyone that fought in the war north and south it was about standing for what you believed in (even if it was slavery) and trying to keep what they felt was righta reality. AS for blacks trying to change the falg guess what the flag is the least of your worries you should be trying to change the minds of your haters a flag is jsut a piece of cloth and means little but an idea is worth much more.
by doen5167 on Tue Apr 13, 04 12:02pm [+]

And why do black people care about the confederate flag anyway, would they have rather had the US (north's) flag? The North had slaves too!
by duckhead on Tue Apr 27, 04 6:54pm [+]

the flag is not a racist symbol. It was simply a redesign of the union stars and bars. The civil war was not only about slaves, and yes there were slaves in the north. General Lee didn't have any, but Union General Grant did. So if there were slaves in the north maybe we shouldn't fly that one either? What about the brothers wearing and flying the X, he for one did want to overthrow the government, that to me is criminal, yet we can't say no to that because they'll just pull the race card.
by FEnatic on Wed Apr 28, 04 9:26am [+]

It all depends upon the viewpoint of the person who is flying the flag, for what reason. Would you honestly say that the cross is a symbol of hate because so many people have burned them in the name of the KKK and racism? No... the confederate flag is a symbol of the south more than it is a symbol of racial prejudice, by far.
by jappy on Sat May 01, 04 3:20pm [+]

hmm, should we stop flying the rebel flag because it's a symbol of hate? maybe we should. maybe we should also ban the american flag, since it's a symbol of a nation that has oppressed countless japanese, german, russian, and irish immigrants, and probably some others too. if you're going to ban the rebel cross, i say ban the yankee stripes with it. let's fly the grey flag, everyone! the grey flag with round corners to prevent damage to liberal tear-filled eyes!
by h3jm4k on Mon May 31, 04 4:16am [+]

on a completely unrelated note, i'd like to mention that the south will never rise again.
by h3jm4k on Mon May 31, 04 4:17am [+]

the confederate flag is freedom of speech. they should be allowed to fly it because it's a symbol of free speech, like it or not, you liberal idiots!!
by NHBman on Tue Jun 01, 04 3:21pm [+]

The confederate flag is pretty cool. If you got a problem with it, don't look at it.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri Jun 04, 04 9:58pm [+]

I thimnk it has the same bad image as the english flag( the st Georges cross- not the union jack) The St georges flag is the national flag of england and represents our heritage but when it is displayed people link it with rasicm football thuggary and the BNP. I fell proud of my flag but realise the connotations it may mean to other people perhaps how the people in southern america may feel.
by manc_lad on Thu Jun 10, 04 4:01pm [+]

The only reason I voted yes is so that black people don't have any thing to blame their blatantly obvious lower financial success in life on. They're too busy complaining about racism instead of finishing high school. Now as to the idea that all southerners are rednecks...no that’s completely untrue.
I live in the south and have also lived in the north. I've noticed that wherever you live you don't have look far to find jackasses. Rednecks infuriate me almost as much as lazy black people because almost all of the truly proud confederates of today live in the trailer park down the road and collect welfare with those of darker skin that I provide with my hard earned tax dollars. So I guess what I'm trying to say is stay in school kids, don't eat too much, and if you vote for bush you’re a damn idiot.
by dgambard on Sun Jun 20, 04 1:05am [+]

Actually, the swastika is not a symbol of hate, at least not originally. Swastikas have been used for more than 13 centuries around the world -- they were originally a symbol of unity and peace...Hitler abused the swastika for his evil purposes, therefore ruining what was once a beautiful symbol...take a stroll through Tibet or Korea today and you'll see swastikas everywhere...but they don't mean the same thing as the Nazi swastika...
by Psycho_Frighead on Wed Jul 07, 04 10:56pm [+]

All over the world the stars and stripes is now hated by more people than either, despite all the Hollywood propaganda.
by Heretic on Tue Jul 13, 04 12:03am [+]

Living in the south my whole life, i can tell you that all the confederate flag stands for down here is southern pride. It is not ment to be taken as racist, or anything else offensive.
by special_ops on Tue Jul 13, 04 5:51pm [+]

And i really dont appreciate all you northerners trying to tell us what the flag means because they obviously have never lived in the south before or they would know. And how come since we are southerners we are automatically poor, white trash, idots, that live on farms and sleep with our relitives. The south is not like that people, don't let those ignorant yankees tell you how it is down here because if they think it is like that down here then they are as bad as the steyreo type of the south is. And here is something to think about, if the south is so wierd and backwards then why are so many northerners moving down here? That is the one bad thing about the south how ever, the damn tourist season. So many pale white people that look at you wierd if you say hi or try to talk to them. I'm just so tired of the south getting this bad rep. because of untruthful things said about us. Not that we need anymore northerners moving down here god knows we have enough. But i'm not being completly fair, once the northerners live down here for a while, they start to be more friendly, not southern friendly, but still nice. Also i'm sure there are some northerners up there who are perfectly good people.
by special_ops on Tue Jul 13, 04 6:17pm [+]

I'm from the North and I know exactly what it means. And frankly, I don't have much of a problem with it... I'd much rather live in the South with people that believe in the same things I do, instead of living up by Chicago... That's the worst place to be; They're EVERYWHERE... Gag, you think just like me, but you really are taking it a bit far going with comment after comment after comment...
by PooPBandiT15f on Thu Jul 15, 04 4:15pm [+]

Freedom of Expression my ass? If it was true Freedom of Expression hate flags would be allowed, and they should be allowed
by JasonVoorhees on Wed Jul 28, 04 11:45pm [+]

You fuckin' hillbillys need to get over it already. 140 years and you haven't risen again yet. Go fuck a goat and take a nap.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Sep 07, 04 6:47pm [+]

FireGhost,

Spoken like a truly ignorant bigot. I would not expect anything less from yankee.
by anti_yankee on Thu Sep 09, 04 10:11pm [+]

If the Germans can still fly the Nazi flag over their government buildings, we southerners should be able to fly the Confederate flag over ours. What? When did THAT happen?
by Neal_Anderthal on Fri Oct 01, 04 2:11am [+]

if it supports slavery it should be banned and anyone who faught for that flag is a horrible human being and I hope there burning in hell right now.
by seon on Sun Oct 24, 04 12:20am [+]

Voted : No
if people don't know the true meaning of the flag then the should not judge or talk about it
by Guest User from [71.242.197.183] on Thu Jun 21, 07 7:12pm [+]

no the rebel flag should not be banned!
by Guest User from [216.79.136.29] on Thu Nov 15, 07 7:24am [+]

if you have a problem with the flag don't look at it then
by Guest User from [216.79.136.147] on Wed Nov 28, 07 6:58am [+]

HELL NO!!!!!!!!
by Guest User from [64.12.116.143] on Tue Dec 18, 07 8:05pm [+]

Voted : The Swastika is not a symbol of hate. The Nazis just abused it...
The swastika was a symbol of peace for over 2,000 years before the Nazis got a hold of it. It is not a symbol of hate, it is just associated with hate because of what those a**holes did...
by Psycho_Frighead on Sat Aug 23, 08 5:53pm [+]






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