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HAHAhahaHAH!
by mojo on Thu Sep 09, 04 3:11pm
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yyessssssss!
A) if you were on death row and thought being retarded would get you off wouldn't you maybe underperform on the IQ tests? Maybe just a little?
B) The main issues in these cases are; did they know what they were doing was wrong and did they do it inentionally. They probably fit both categories.
c) following numerous amendments to the Tx constitution the governor and lt. governor have no power of pardon. That power is given to an independant council who decides these cases with no influence from the government. So bush had as much control over these executions as he did over the tienamin square incident, perhaps he's to blame for that too?
Yes, and by the way, Clinton is to blame for our current national deficit and 9/11 - in addition to murdering Vince Foster.
(joke)
by mojo on Thu Sep 09, 04 3:35pm
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Can we crack jokes afterward?
He'd know his own kind best, wouldn't he?
Go Fuck yourself MOJO.
back at ya fireghost...
do you know how many people on death row have been totally exonerated in time to save their lives? Well it's a lot, you can go look up the numbers just as easy as I can you wizard. I wonder how many weren't saved in time though, I wonder how many Texans weren't saved in time. But make excuses for your daddy Bush all day long, he's our savior right :D
by x__ on Thu Sep 09, 04 6:39pm
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This gets tedious. Bush did not have the legal authority to do anything about those executions. Shall I repeat that? Even if bush were the staunchest opponent of capital punishment in the world there was absolutely nothing he could have done to stop those executions short of asking them nicely not to. And I'd like to see how many people were totally exonerated on death row. Because all the cases I've see they've simply reduced the punishment from execution to life in prison. Which doesn't mean they're innocent, it simply means that they've waited several decades for some of the evidence to disapear, some of the witnesses to die, or for a more sympathetic jury. So these people aren't being found to be innocent of murder.
Oh FireGhost, your innovative wit and style of argument really transceds time... we're all baffled.
so the fact that some people have been sentenced to Death row when they were TOTALLY innocent is A-okay, cause hey it works most of the time :p
If you have the chance to see Exonerated, you oughta go though
by x__ on Fri Sep 10, 04 3:15am
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Welcome to herzog's Nazi Neverland.
'so the fact that some people have been sentenced to Death row when they were TOTALLY innocent is A-okay, cause hey it works most of the time'
Who has been found to be totally innocent? And no, I didn't say that. I pointed out that most of those people taken off death row WERE NOT PROVEN TO BE INNOCENT.
Don't get me wrong- I'm all for the death penalty, death death everywhere, I think it should be used even more often, I think thier should be public humiliation and strangling by wolves for more criminals, but the fact that they've made mistakes with it bothers me, the fact that one single person could be sentenced to death by mistake. Watch The Exonerated.
by x__ on Fri Sep 10, 04 12:16pm
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(and heck it was pretty quick and easy to do a search online just now and find where a lot of people have been found totally innocent.. you must not have done that search)
by x__ on Fri Sep 10, 04 12:19pm
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Herzog great job there. Nice answers!
right on! I'm convinced now :p
by x__ on Sat Sep 11, 04 12:12pm
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lol -- Someone hates me!
Oh yeah, herzog -- Bush couldn't have used his influence as a well-liked governor to institute changes and put pressure on the system.
He could have, and he didn't, and you know that.
her-blog just likes it when people die.
The question isn't whether they have intelligance but do they have enough understanding of right and wrong to make a clear decision. So if that "retard" understood his actions than yes the death penalty would of been okay.
In the majority of these cases, these retarded people have the mental capacity of a 7-year-old -- they may know murder is wrong, but they may not understand the permanent ramifications of it.
Well said, and if that person didn't know the ramifacations of such an action than he wouldn't be put to death, however being simply a moron isn't a reason to dodge the chair.
But a lot of mentally retarded people also have emotional problems -- problems that, with their mental state, they don't know how to deal with. Their ability to comprehend reality can seriously be compromised to the point where they may be doing the right thing.
Also, I suggest reading "Native Son."
surely if bush is of diminished capacity he too would not understand the ramifications of a death penalty.. I would have thought though a presidential pardon would stop anything he wants stopped But as an outsider I do not know the full process, it does seem strange a man with a finger on the nuclear button cant stop a guy being fried.
Another reason he doesnt sign the stay of execution may be he does not know how to spell X ;-)
No. Because he's never murdered anyone, like the so-called "retarded person" that was executed.
No, he's not a murderer ... he's just sent thousands of people to their deaths for his own personal reasons.
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