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Correction: *interpretation*
If those self-righteous, warmongering pillars of society could only remember WHO they're supposed to be following, they'd stop and consider the impact of their actions.
I don't know bbc
Beats me. It could be the fact that we have an inbred sinful nature.
That's true enough, celui. But Christians believe they have been given a blank check to sin all they want. After all, Christinsanity preaches that you can commit literally any sin - up to and including committing another Holocaust - and still go to heaven, just so long as you believe in Jesus.
But we non-Christians, not having that blank check, feel some obligation to at least try to be less sinful.
yeah, but won't have any of the honors in heaven. You'll still be judged according to your sins whether or not you are saved. Being saved doesn't necessarily mean you got a permission slip to go pyscho and do whatever you like. Asking for salvation means you are willing to follow the rules to the end and to do your best not to slip up. IMO, anyway.
Good question. Ask the "born-again Christian" George Bush who screams about how killing unborn babies is evil, and then goes and blows up innocent children who are already alive in Iraq.
100,000 Iraqis killed in "Operation Iraqi Freedom".
Now why do those silly Muslims have a problem with a America??? All we ever did was try to liberate them.(note the sarcasm).
Celui: So I "won't have any of the honors in heaven"? of course I won't. And neither will you nor anyone else. That's the whole point.
That, and this: SOME of us do what's right just because it IS right. Others, like yourself, do what's right only because they think it'll buy them a harp and halo later .
And this: "Being saved doesn't necessarily mean you get a permission slip to go psycho and do whatever you like"? Very revealing choice of words there, celui! It might not "necessarily" mean that, but effectively it does mean that.
I'll have to say that the people who think they are most religious end up being the least religious. Whether you are Christian, Jewish or Muslim. Those who call themselves the most religious end up doing the least religious things.
er, I don't quite follow the "very revealing choice of words" but oh well. "Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirableif anything is excellent or praiseworthythink about such things." Philippians 4:8. I don't see any "you have permission to do bad things now, because you are saved!" Anyway, even if that was the case, I still wouldn't do it.
Celui, There's a lot more to the Bible than that one verse. I know because I've done something with the Bible few Christians ever have - I've read it.
And I'm sure you're a good person who never deliberately does wrong. And you are a Christian. But you are mistaken in your belief that the latter fact about you caused the former. If you were an atheist, you still wouldn't deliberately do wrong. Why not? BECAUSE you're a good person.
And that's the way of the world. Either with or without religion, good people do good, bad people do bad. But causing good people to do bad - as on 9/11/01 - that is something only religion has ever been able to accomplish.
excellent points. All humans are born with an inbred knowledge of right and wrong. There is no need for a God to teach you that. I've read the entire New Testament; and nearly 3/4 of the Old, so I DO know what I'm talking about, but you are right, most Christians don't read it. I make it a pointer to read it every day, at least one verse; the one I listed above is on my top ten list. Well, I openly admit that I dislike the Muslim faith. In Christianity, the belief coencides with the "right and wrong" policy, but Islam sways over the line several times, aka 9/11. If you think about what Christianity has done in the past 300 years, it's really not that bad. Go to ballot #46509, anti-yankee raises some good points there as well.
The Christians whose behavior patterns demontrates the complete
opposite of Christian principles and morals are the Christians in name only. They use religion to pursue their own selfish dark agenda.
Evangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell who advocate wars and lead their brainwashed fellowers to commit mass suicides and at the same time to kill tens of thousands innocent people are not Christians but devil's advocators!
Warning!
The ardent warmakers, the Zionist int'l financiers who have usurped the Federal Reserve financial system, would love to see Christians and Muslims to kill and destroy each other. Afterwards, the int'l financiers will step in and reap all the war profits, grab all the world wealth in their hands and take over the planet earth!
Excellent points Truth...I have encountered many so call Christians and some are the worse hypocrites known to mankind...They will shout praises with their serpent tongues and speak with vinegar on their lips against their fellow man who dare disagree with their positions...As for those professed Muslims that attacked America on 9/11, their actions are NOT and I repeat, are NOT in keeping with the Islamic principles and morals and for those who say otherwise are completely uneducated about those principles...Just as you have professed Christians who claim to be all God loving and have nothing but love and peace in their hearts, so do you have Muslims who profess the same and their actions are not in keeping with what their tongues proclaim...Both sides are full of not only hypocripy but of something else and it stinks to high heaven :O) Just my opinion folks...
But causing good people to do bad - as on 9/11/01 - that is something only religion has ever been able to accomplish.
by Neal_Anderthal on Oct 30, 2004
What's the fucking liar going on about now? It seems he's claiming that only religion can make good people do bad things. I'm sure that Neal believes it's true but obviously that doesn't make it so.
well god forgives anything so you don't exacly need good morals because your constantly being redeemed
Are you referring to those "born Agains"?
Christianity blocks the healthy expression of primary drives. Christians who try to follow the teachings of the Bible get to the point where it has to out. Ergo, non-Christian behavior. It's a great system, Christianity: It creates the problem (guilt) and its solution (forgiveness) again and again and again. Weird, but as Frank Sinatra said: "booze, broads or religion, whatever gets you through the night"
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