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result #70861 - WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED TERRI'S LIFE DON'T SUPPORT THE 60,000 PEOPLE A YEAR WHO DIE IN A VERY SIMILAR WAY?

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WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED TERRI'S LIFE DON'T SUPPORT THE 60,000 PEOPLE A YEAR WHO DIE IN A VERY SIMILAR WAY?


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created Fri Apr 01, 05
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It's okay if it happens to poor people in Texas 5
Its ok if it happens to Rich people in Texas 2
lack of media exposure 2
Because 0
I supported Michael 0

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because 60,000 other cases did not become well known to the world. If they were maybe the laws would be changed and this will not happen to 59,999 more people.

by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 2:50pm [+]

The laws were changed runyon, in TX with Bush as governor, they were changed in a manner that people in these states would be killed off more swiftly.
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 3:27pm [+]

Same reason why war-deaths are complained about but murders on the street, which overwhelmingly outnumber those, arent.
by CletuSlackedJawYokel on Fri Apr 01, 05 3:27pm [+]

True. If the 59,000 other people's families raised enough of a ruckus, they'd get some attention too.

Not all of those 59,000 though are in the same condition as Terri was. Much of them worse off, not being able to even move, see, hear, open eyes, or even breathe on their own.
by CuriousCow on Fri Apr 01, 05 3:35pm [+]

Runyon, read this Advance Directives Act signed by George W Bush which allows the state of Tx to pull the plug despite the guardians wishes.
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 3:35pm [+]

I don't live there, so i don't know the Texas laws.
Why are you focused only on Texas and not the whole country?
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:08pm [+]

Every state has their own laws, so why should i / we focus only on the one that Bush was Governor of? I'm more intetested in the country as a whole, and not just bush's state of texas.
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:12pm [+]

You are wanting the government to step in and create laws for the land, I am merely pointing out what the "CEO" of the land did when he was "CEO" of Tx, do you not see the connection ?
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:15pm [+]

Then again Bush does change his mind often, so maybe he has a new thought on this.
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:18pm [+]

This doesn't even have anything to do with the ballot question. The question was why don't people support the other 60,000 just like Terri. This is a whole other issue.
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:21pm [+]

You said "maybe the laws would change", am I not allowed to respond to your comment now?
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:23pm [+]

You are wanting the government to step in and create laws for the land.......WHERE did i say that? Good grief duckhead your putting words in my mouth. I said i was more interested in the whole country, i didn't say anything about creating new laws. I meant the other people like terri schiavo, should also have a voice.
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:25pm [+]

"If they were MAYBE THE LAWS WOULD BE CHANGED and this will not happen to 59,999 more people" -Runyon.
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:29pm [+]

ok, going back to my first comment. The voice of the people has to be heard. If this was done, then "WE AS A PEOPLE" could change things. This country belongs to the people not the goverment.
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:31pm [+]

apparently you are not familiar with the current administration, lol.
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:34pm [+]

AND the voice of the nation clearly wouldnt echo yours, even Fox News admits that.
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:35pm [+]

or the one before that or that or that or that, and the beat goes on....
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:35pm [+]

really, your not familiar with ANY of those?
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:42pm [+]

did we actually get through that without fighting duckhead? Hotdang, time to celebrate, where's my gatorade...
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:44pm [+]

damn, i spoke to soon.
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:44pm [+]

lol, we havnt had a good fight in a while.
by Duckhead on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:49pm [+]

actually i was to busy partying back then and didn't pay much attention. That's the truth...although i did vote back in the clinton years, but we have already had that CONVERSATION....
by runyonbybirth on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:56pm [+]

The issue with Bushy is his total hypocrisy. How can he be so totally against pulling the plug on Terry Schiavo, so much so that he actually cut short one of his many vacations and left his beloved Crawford, TX bike trails to return to Washington, when he had signed, as governor of Texas, a law allowing hospitals to pull the plug on anyone they chose, even if the family objected. So if Terry Schiavo had been in Texas, and her money had run out, the hospice could have pulled her feeding tube, over the Schindler's objections, because of a law that Bushy had supported and signed. HYPOCRISY.
by cranky on Fri Apr 01, 05 4:57pm [+]

60,000 people are in the same condition as Terri Schiavo. And this isn't the first case to have politicians involved - Virginia had a similar case. Why this became a big deal is that it got hijacked by the religious nutjobs. And I might point that the Shindlers have said that even if she had told them to pull the plug in a situation like this, they would not honor that request.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri Apr 01, 05 5:48pm [+]

Comment : What might give you the idea we don't support every other individual that might die in a similar fashion? Answer the media never reports it therefore we were unaware. No one deserves to die via dehydration/starvation, well except maybe Judge Greer, Michael Schiavo, and his rat bastard lawyer.
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Apr 01, 05 7:37pm [+]

Here we go again! Blame the randomly assigned judge because he decided the case on the basis of law. Which BY THE WAY... was upheld by every court all the way to the supreme court. So... all those judges must deserve death too because they didn't overrule him?
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri Apr 01, 05 8:01pm [+]

Now you're talkin. An ruling that is just in the eyes of the law doesn't mean it's a just ruling.
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Apr 01, 05 8:27pm [+]

So..why does he deserve death?
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri Apr 01, 05 8:47pm [+]

He accepted funds from Michael Schiavo's lawyer and gave the execution orders for Terry to be brutally starved and dehydrated.
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Apr 01, 05 8:54pm [+]

So now you are for murdering judges? That is a federal crime and a felony.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri Apr 01, 05 9:03pm [+]

so
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Apr 01, 05 9:28pm [+]

Those of you on the right advocating the murder of judges just because you disagree with their decisions are scarey. There's a term for that: FASCISM.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri Apr 01, 05 10:03pm [+]

SO? So is advocating it, too.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Fri Apr 01, 05 10:04pm [+]

I view the Judge as a tyrant so if he were to meet an untimely death I wouldn't be angry or upset. He essentially murdered someone because she was disabled and accepted payment for his moral crime.
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Apr 01, 05 10:15pm [+]

I'm not sure why you're having a hard time accepting my comments.They are based on feelings and observations, surely you can understand that.
by lowerclassbrats on Fri Apr 01, 05 10:19pm [+]

Good ballot, smooth. Whether one agrees with the position or not, one thing that can be respected is Consistency in the application of the principle. Some supporters have been consistent; but a lot of others may have some soul searching to do.

For example: If you supported Schiavo's keeping the feeding tube and denounced Bush's Texas Bill saying it was OK to pull the plug if the patient couldn't pay -- I respect your principles. Or vice versa, for that matter.

If you're support depends on who is involved, though ...
by Cathexis on Sat Apr 02, 05 11:28am [+]

LCB, I can respect your feelings of disgust. Advocating the death or a murder of a judge is something I would expect from the Iraqi resistance, Islamic terrorists, communists, and dictatorships, not from you.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Sat Apr 02, 05 12:00pm [+]

The 'necks fantasy terrorism against Judge Greer shows their true colors. And the distortions of the truth are amazing. Greer did not receive payment for the judgement he made, that's an out-and out-crock and the Terry Schiavo case was brought before six different courts, and was rejected by the fascistic Supreme Court of the United States FIVE times. This obsession with Judge Greer simply shows how the simple 'neck mind has to have a villian and is incapable of understanding anything that isn't a big lie in black and white.
by cranky on Tue Apr 05, 05 9:18am [+]

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