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oh dear!
by mojo on Tue Apr 19, 05 3:38pm
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Well, all kids his age were forced to do that, but of more concern is the fact that he was the prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith (AKA: the Inquisition).
What can you say? Nobody likes a quitter.
At least they no longer burn people at the stake ... I suppose that's some consolation. :-/
I guess I just have a problem with a Pope who was a member of the Hitler Youth (even though he wasn’t in it for very long and it was mandatory), and who served in the German military under the Nazis -- he allegedly set tank traps and watched people be led into concentration camps. I can’t seem to reconcile those facts with the thought that this person is supposed to teach me about morals (no offense to anyone).
Uh, oh...
Also just learned that he was in the German Army, and deserted just before Hitler went into the bunker.. A good thing that papal elections are done by the College only, and that they're not subject to the same rigorous level of campaigning that our political elections are. He would NEVER have made the cut.
Is it me or is the world crazy?
by ABC on Tue Apr 19, 05 6:30pm
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The main theme of Christ's teachings was forgiveness, no? So, from this perspective, if Benedict XVI is truly penitent, mustn't he be forgiven? Of course, this theme has been worn thin with the American pedophile priests? From the apparent theme of forgiveness, couldn't they have elected Cardinal Law? Or how does it work? Hmmm.
Truth: if a former klansman (senator byrd) could be repeatedly elected by the democrats I think this guy might have a chance. It's not like joining the hitler youth was voluntary in germany, neither was military service.
Ah! You beat me to this ballot. :)
Just one of many skeletons lurking in the former Cardinal Joseph - The Rottweiler - Ratzinger's closet.
The current US President is a deserter, but a majority of voting Americans don't seem to have a problem with that...
He was forced in to the hitler youth and the wehrmacht. He deserted though.
Hmmm. The leader of the fascist organisation in my town was a former "communist youth member". Why? Because membership wasn't based on free choise.
he was forced into the hitler youth then the army he desrted and surrendered to the americans straigh away he ISN'T a nazi
As usual only partial facts are presented. Of course you kind of left out that everyone child that age was forced into the Hitler youth and that his family moved several times to try and avoid it. You also left out that he desserted the German Army, which was an offense punishible by death and hanging from a public lightpost, if caught. I would say that tells you he was willing to die for his beliefs. I think a Pope with those convictions is great. I just wish people would get the whole story before shooting off at the mouth.
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Even if he were forced in, as he claims, given that his whole existence is to serve the highest power of all, God, then he is weak to have let himself be "forced" in. This smacks of "we were just following orders." I loved John Paul II. I will never look up to this Pope in any way. He had an obligation to resist and he did not. John Paul fought the Nazis and the communists (peacefully) and he admitted it freely. Benedict is an appropriate name for a man who is a Benedict Arnold to his faith and to God.
ceejjj, please excuse me, but I must totally disagree! He should have recused himself! No matter what, he still joined. No matter what, he is now supposedly the leader of the Church that Christ asked Peter to nurture. If this Benedict was as good a man as he should be to be Pope, he should have bowed out gracefully!
I have to disagree. He didn't "join" anything. Everyone was FORCED. Death was the alternative. I would like to see what your choice would have been, and in the long run he did desert before he had to do anything to compromise his beliefs. Why should he recuse himself, he did nothing wrong?
Hi ceejjj, what you're saying is not wrong in my opinion, but I feel differently. Yes, while he may have been forced, the whole point is, he is epxected to be able to resist. In ohter words, if someone put a gun to his head (God forbid!), and told him he had to renounce his faith, would he? He is expected to live by and defend his faith at all costs, no matter what. Now granted, people change and forgivness is an important part of this, but I just think that he is copping out with this whole "foreced." Obviously, his religion...his higher calling, was not a part of him when he "caved in and was forced to join." Know what I mean? How can anyone listen to him when he will stand up there and preach old values in a new world, when he himself was weak and totally abandoned his faith when he was "forced" to join? I'm sorry, but he will never be a source of inspiration to me at all. Sorry!
Patch: I don't think when you were 13 you had strong believes. Because that is the age children were forced in HJ: 13 to 18.
He is 78 years old now, so that would make him 18 in 1945.
So at what age was he forced in? And I had strong beliefs when I was 13 :)
I don't know if he was exactky 13, but around that age.
Do you have any proof? If so then I wouldn’t be surprised the globalists love the Nazi’s and fascism.
by seon on Wed Jun 29, 05 5:38am
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please tell me this is a lie
WHY SHOULD IT BE A PROBLEM THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH OVERSEES A BUNCH OF HYPOCRYTICAL CHILD MOLESTING PRIESTS ANYWAY THE RELIGION HAS BECOME A JOKE!
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