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ALLEGED HATE MAIL AT TRINITY U. ACTUALLY SENT BY BLACK STUDENT


[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Wed Apr 27, 05
A 19-year-old African-American student at Trinity International University has been charged with sending racially inflammatory hate mail to her classmates, prompting last week’s evacuation of minority students from the north suburban school.

Alicia Hardin of Chicago was charged with disorderly conduct and committing a hate crime for allegedly writing threatening letters to other African-American students.

The letters were written in an attempt to convince her parents to let her withdraw from Trinity, Lake County Assistant State’s Atty. Matthew Chancey said. Hardin lived on the Bannockburn campus, was unhappy there and wanted to transfer to Jackson State University in Jackson, Miss., he said.

“By writing these notes, we believe she wanted to have her mother believe (Trinity) was an unsafe environment,” Chancey said.



If it had turned out to be a white student (especially a white male) there would no doubt have been hate crime charges filed, and they would have stuck. Given this fact, should this student be tried for a hate crime and punished as severely as a white student would have?

Yes, punish her <1%
No, she's the victim in all this, white racism is still to blame <1%

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I remember the good old days when hate crimes went both ways.

by _Beelzebubba on Wed Apr 27, 05 1:40pm [+]

Yes. This type of behavior is unacceptable from anyone, regardless of race, religion or nationality. In order to send a strong message that it will not be tolerated by anyone, she should be charged with a hate crime.
by patch22us on Wed Apr 27, 05 1:41pm [+]

Don't think I would put her in the criminal justice mill, hmmmm. Likely to get worse there. Hmmmm. How about if we require her to write a long detailed confession of why she did this, why it was wrong, and how she can contribute to better race relations for everyone?

Too utopian? I was afraid of that. Okay, lets burn her at the stake in the college common area.

Interesting ballot. Informational. Thank you.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Apr 27, 05 2:35pm [+]

Another of Herzog's thinly veiled racist diatribes. Are all Texans as racist as you?
by cranky on Wed Apr 27, 05 2:57pm [+]

The proof is in the pudding...
no matter the flavor of the pudding, it is proof positive that, some members of both sides of the racial divide you will find those who have nothing better to do than to point fingers at others for behaving in the same manner as they do. One must live a very sad life to search for the wrong in others in order to feel validated, what a waste of time...Herzog, whatever you got out of posting this article, I hope you finally feel validated for all the insensitive racial comments you have, and continue to made/make...This ONE article will NEVER erase the history and current continuing racist, sexist, homophobic hysteria by individuals who no more validate their behaviors through their ignorance as you do
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Wed Apr 27, 05 3:03pm [+]

Crank: a diatribe would be if I made this up as a hypothetical situation and posted it, this is in fact a news article. You can choose to acknowledge this girls misdeeds, or ignore them (probably ignore) but either way she is guilty as hell. And if she doesn't get tried for a hate crime, probably won't, this will be clear indicator of the hypocrisy of that law.
by herzog on Wed Apr 27, 05 3:09pm [+]

Babs: hypothetical, if a white student were to do the exact same thing, send out racist letters to whites and pretend it was a black sending them, all to stir up racial tension and get attention, would you be so forgiving? Yes or no please.
by herzog on Wed Apr 27, 05 3:10pm [+]

Its not about forgiving anyone. I am the type of person that will and have forgiven in the past of anyone who have and/or offended me and those whom I love. It was wrong what she did, as it would have been so had she been a non person of color. However, had a Caucasian student sent the letter, his/her reason(s) I would venture to say would have differ a great deal in comparison to the reason she gave. The point is this, this one incident you provided, can not, will NEVER, measure up to the past and surely, in the future. Again, I don't know how many times I will be required to say this, she was WRONG, that still doesn't excuse your racially insensitive comments and/or remarks and the Racism that exited and continue to in America...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Wed Apr 27, 05 4:01pm [+]

What patch said. If, as I've heard, she did this in order to get her parents to allow her to leave school because she didn't like it, she deserves to go to jail. If I'd come to my mom when I was in college and told her that I wanted to withdraw, I'd like to think that she'd let me, provided that I could give her a valid reason. Says something about her or her family.
by Truthseeker013 on Wed Apr 27, 05 4:40pm [+]

Babs: find one legitimately racist comment I've made on here. Until then you can go ahead and quit making your silly accusations.
by herzog on Wed Apr 27, 05 5:31pm [+]

Silly accusations? I guess like the one you just made above. It is obvious that you are young and lack a great deal of life experience and it would help if you incorporate diversity within your circle of friends(I can't imagine that you have that(diversity) presently and still speak and believe as you do on the issue of race). You can call what I say as you well, it only reenforces what I suspected about you all along, get talking...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Wed Apr 27, 05 5:45pm [+]

Correction: "what I suspected about you all along, *keep* talking..."
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Wed Apr 27, 05 5:49pm [+]

You leftists keep spewing feces out of your mouths. She was black, herzog mentioned this fact. WTF!?
by thc2883 on Wed Apr 27, 05 5:55pm [+]

Come on babs, all I'm asking for is one quote. Surely you can manage this, you seem so confident to make these claims you must have something to back this up.
by herzog on Wed Apr 27, 05 6:03pm [+]

BOO HOO! Herzog said "African-American!" Yeah herzog, I guess that's how you were supposedly being racist eventhough I think race is an important part in certain news events such as this..
by mysticalknight on Wed Apr 27, 05 7:19pm [+]

Hers comes from Texas, one of the most racist places in America. For a white Texan to put up a series of ballots focusing on individual acts of alleged non-white racism is a sham and a clear indication of the disguised racist agenda of the author of the ballot.
by cranky on Wed Apr 27, 05 7:32pm [+]

Hers, instead of racist diatribe, how does racist smearjob grab you?
by cranky on Wed Apr 27, 05 7:33pm [+]

I have never encountered a ballot nor a comment of yours Herzog that has to do with race that wasn't an attempt to speak mistruths and/or inaccuracies about people of color. Therefore, you select a quote of yours, anyone will do. As for thc and mistynighty comments, nevermind, why should I provide either of the two a life...Hey Cranky, I see you are taking out the trash, it just keeps piling up...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Wed Apr 27, 05 8:26pm [+]

I submit that it is racist(the bad kind) to accuse Herzog of being a racist because he spoke out on a subject he regulary does,political correctness,which this time happens to have a race relevant component.

"Hers comes from Texas, one of the most racist places in America."

You're from Texas,aren't you Cranky?.Or should I say Barbara cranky cakes?

Racists often make emotional pleas that are unsupported by the facts which are emotionionaly fueled out of ignorance.More often than not , racists are oblivious to their ignorance and their subsequent racist ways.Enter BBC and Cranky.
by robotthinker on Wed Apr 27, 05 8:34pm [+]

Robot, you calling me a racist is indeed as ridiculous as this ballot...So, welcome to your jungle...And I can only imagine which user you are, hiding behind an alias, no wonder there are very few people of color visiting this site...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:10pm [+]

Blacks have created this huge demon of the frothy-mouthed, wild-eyed, murderous, bigoted white man.

Guess they will have to suffer the inevitable consequences of their stupidity.

However there never is a shortage of idiots who buy all this leftist rhetoric as evidenced by cranky, and bbc.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:13pm [+]

"Robot, you calling me a racist is indeed as ridiculous as this ballot."


Admitting you have a racism problem is the first step towards recovery BBC.
by robotthinker on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:25pm [+]

Babs: so nothing? Yeah, I kind of figured that, especially given your rampant anti-semetism. No, I don't have any statements of yours that prove it, I just get that vibe from you, which apparently is enough to condemn you. Seems fair?
by herzog on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:28pm [+]

LOL! Good job Robot, I thought someone else knew about Cranky and BBC being the same. Cranky is just another one of BBC's aliases that he uses a lot as another person with similar views that he can agree with, eventhough he's really agreeing with himself. I'm also sure he uses aliases such as Cranky to rate himself up a lot.
by mysticalknight on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:31pm [+]

"I can only imagine which user you are, hiding behind an alias"

You'd be hard pressed to find a single person here who agrees with %90 of what I beleive let alone %70.I don't have any false aliases to boost my karma either.

"no wonder there are very few people of color visiting this site..."

Here you go again with your racist comments.You don't know the content of the private messages I send or who I send good karma to.Admit it BBC,you are a racist.
by robotthinker on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:35pm [+]

I detected the odor of an imposter here early on too mysticalknight.

There's nothing like a clever ploy to muster up support for your positions with smoke and mirror tactics,ehh BCC?
by robotthinker on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:44pm [+]

Maybe the people not visiting this site are afraid that the evil whites are lurking out there trying to impress them into the West African slave gangs.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Apr 27, 05 9:49pm [+]

Herzog, I like how you use Babs :) BBC, I hope you like it too...its kind of cool.

On another note, Pene Palmada is a pretty poopy person pursuing people purposely and perversely pointing out to people that he is perpetually poopy.
by patch22us on Wed Apr 27, 05 10:19pm [+]

If a white person made those kind of threats, they would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This girl will most likely get a slap on the wrist bacause some P.C. judge will determine that the white devil drove her to do it.

It kind of reminds me of Ice Cube rapping about killing people just because they are white and getting a huge movie deal as a reward.
by _Beelzebubba on Thu Apr 28, 05 9:46am [+]

These types of things happen a lot more than the media says they do. In history it's been used to start wars between nations and at times is very effective.

I'd charge her for a hate crime and conspiring to smear the honest name of that university. (I'm not sure if that's a crime, it should be)
by Liberal_Democrat on Sat Apr 30, 05 1:31am [+]

"I'd charge her for a hate crime and conspiring to smear the honest name of that university."

Your consistancy is both refreshing and duly noted LD.
by robotthinker on Sat Apr 30, 05 10:57am [+]

Yep, three cheers for LD!
by herzog on Sat Apr 30, 05 12:38pm [+]

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