COMMENTS:
Both. Tyranny of the minority is no better than tyranny of the majority.
^How DARE you not hate yourself and your race by claiming that we all should be subject to the same things.
Both of these choices are superseded by the rights of the individual to a degree. Whether someone is a member of a majority or a minority they are still an individual, with the same rights as any other individual. Thus, the equality of rights between individuals transcends and takes prescedence over the rights of an social group.
KAG: I think it was ayn rand who said, and I'm paraphrasing here: the smallest minority is the individual, anyone who would deny the rights of the individual cannot claim to be a defender of minority rights.
Actually, why do we bother to break it down? How about every person be granted the same rights, without question, without regard to their sex, race, religion, political views, etc.
Don't be naive.
The rights of all.
It breaks down like this:
the moral authority of the majority is partly based on the notion that there is more intelligence and wisdom in a number of men united than a single individual, and that the number of legislators is more important that their quality(quoted).
When the rights of the minority are violated, it will not take long we are all a minority of some description.
Too bloody true.
I agree with KAG and herzog: individual rights.
Well spoken, herzog. When it comes to rights, they should be equal.
There you go again, Herzog!@:>): A little arithmetic should help: would you rather have tryanny from a few crazies, or tyranny from a lot of crazies? Hmmm. Let me see...
From a number of your past ballots and comments, it appears that you consider yourself part of some majority, no? So, the only "tyranny" you have likely experienced is tryanny of the minority -- which is rarely seen and quickly suppressed.
So, "what you talking about, Herz?" @:>)
Are you saying that any and all tryanny, from any group, is bad? If so, I couldn't agree more.
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Griffon
Someone who is a member of a maajority can still be a victim of prejudice on an individual level from a member of their own group i.e im part of the white "majority" but i could still try to buy something from an afro Carribean lifestyle shop and be told to get my "honky" ass outa there or something of the like, that is still a violation of my rights.
Also my rights could be infringed upon by a member of my own majority, making me ( temporarily at least ) part of a subset minority i.e some white people try to limit my freedom of speech to discuss the problems The African American minority are suffering from in Modern Day America , BBC is a perfect example of this. This is still a violation of one of my most fundamental rights by a member of my own " majority".
So your assumption that because Herzog is a member of the white "majority" the only "tyranny" he has likely seen is " tyranny of the minority -- which is rarely seen and quickly suppressed. " is presumptious and misled.
* victim of prejudice on an individual level from a member of ANOTHER group
No majority has the right to deny even a single individual their rights.
In my humble opinion, the will of the majority must be upheld, but not at the expense of rights of the minority. I guess its a fine line, but everyone's rights need to be upheld no matter what.
" In my humble opinion, the will of the majority must be upheld, but not at the expense of rights of the minority "
We have the exact opposite problem as far as minorities are concerned in the Western world
How do you mean King?
Grif: being oppressed by people who look like me really wouldn't be any better than being oppressed by people who look different than me.
And no, I am not in the majority. If you just take whites in the US (about 70%) and only males (about fifty fifty) then my demographic makes up 35% of the population, take into account the conservative/libertarian slant and the athiesm and I doubt there are even 1% of the population that could honestly be considered similiar enough to me to be lumped in together. Majority, nope. Right, absolutely.
Anyone, if they want to, can sift through and separate data and grounds of difference, and find ways in which they are a "minority." Conversely, the same person can find similiarities that make them seem a "majority."
It seems to me that all of us on the planet are a lot more alike than we are different. This troubles some folks who want to make meaningless distinctions in order to feel good about themselves.
Understanding yourself as mostly alike the other human beings here is, I think, a more meaningful, and less troublesome view.
Enjoyed your comments.
Both because they're all AMERICANS!
It depends how much crime and welfare sponging the minority does.
Grapost
Im not American, but at leats we can agree that we are all humans eh?
Except for Germans of course ;)
Both unless the rights of the minority clash with the majority then the majority
by seon on Thu Jul 07, 05 6:53pm
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Voted : Rights for me, wrongs for you
When you're right you're right: We should control Everything, for a better world: Eliminate all wrongs, and modify all wrong persons: Re-educate, re-program all the people of Earth. You will be retained if you're adequately retrained. Minor deviations may be acceptable.
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