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SENIOR CITIZENS AGAINST FREEDOM


[+] ballot by larrynelmira
ACTIVE Oct 22,2005 - Sun Oct 22, 06
my aunt lives in a gov. senior citizens apts.

In her building, people decorate their doors, she put an anit Bush poster on hers, and was told by her neighbors that it was not appropriate.


These buildings have their own representation, they vote for presidents and such, to represent them in the affairs of the building.

Anyways, they asked her to remove the poster, she is in her 70's as are most of the residence, and she didn't want to cause problems or perhaps even a protest march against her.

The building has vets of ww2 and Korea, and they thought what was on her door was offensive.

To make a boring story less boring,

Is freedom just another word, for nothing left to lose?

yep 4
It's a free country, last time I checked. 4
no, they had every right to protest her door decor 2
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COMMENTS:
Sickening.

by mojo on Sat Oct 22, 05 8:57am [+]

My dad is a WW2 vet, and he would never cop an attitude like that. He fought for the very freedom they are denying her.
by mojo on Sat Oct 22, 05 8:59am [+]

The people who are protesting your aunt have no right to do so.You see your aunt lives in that room so therefore that is her home and the last time I checked a people did not have the right to protest at a private citizens home.
by Corrupt on Sat Oct 22, 05 9:21am [+]

disgusting. it is the environment that bush and his administration created. they used fear and terror to get people to think a certain way (e.g., the whole "you're either with us or against us" mentality).

your aunt should sue. tell her to get a good civil rights attorney who will do the case pro bono and sue. seems extreme, but so is hasseling this women and denying her right to non-violent political experssion.

by Kev24 on Sat Oct 22, 05 9:31am [+]

^she would probably not want to do that and be isolated from the other residence, but I agree with what all you guys are saying.

I said poster, but it was like a 8X10 picture of Bush with caption you need to apologize.

Also , the doors are not uniformed, people put all kinds of stuff on them.
by larrynelmira on Sat Oct 22, 05 9:56am [+]

I think she should sue them for everything they are worth.

Or at least call the ACLU. smile
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Sat Oct 22, 05 10:20am [+]

Are there any rules governing what can go on the doors?
by observer on Sat Oct 22, 05 11:06am [+]

She hasthe right to free speech, as have those vets who are against it.

They perhaps dont realise that by infringing her rights, they risk losing them themselves.
by Steelhamster on Sat Oct 22, 05 11:23am [+]

I don't think so observer, during the elections, some people had Kerry and Bush posters , I think they do it just to show little Individuality because everything else in the building is pretty much the same.
by larrynelmira on Sat Oct 22, 05 11:34am [+]

Wonder what those fine folks will think when Mister Bush's new Medicaid/Medicare program kicks into gear...
by Truthseeker013 on Sat Oct 22, 05 1:40pm [+]

^ Yep
by mojo on Sat Oct 22, 05 1:53pm [+]

Does her putting "any" poster on the door violate a violation of the rules?

If it is just that it was an anti-Bush poster that is wrong. But if they also prohibit posters of fluffy welfare kitties then there is no problem.

But apart from that I am tired of all the old people sucking up all the oxygen. It is not such a big deal for someone my age because I am going to directly benefit from all the actions of the greedy baby-boomers.

But you (larry-people your age) are going to have to pay for all of it and you aren't going to benefit at all.

Once the baby-boomers get all these programs set up GenX will benefit but the so-called genD is going to get pooped on.

Baby boomers have contributed what? They are the most spoiled, arrogant, and entitled genreation in the history of the world. EFF Them,.
by inter_regnum on Sat Oct 22, 05 6:18pm [+]

Larry you said you don't think there are rules against it because people had campaign posters up during the election.

there is a difference between campaign posters and anti-Bush posters, or anti-kerry posters.

And for the boobs who think that free speech is absolute they should look into homeowners associations who have consistently won in the highest court in the land that they absolutely can regulate free speech thru CCR's.

And after reading the comments it sounds like this lady doesn't have the courage of her convictions, too easily cowed. If it is only a matter of being ostracized by some of the people my heart pumps purple piss for her.

If the others wanted to protest her protest how the hell is that a violation of free speech.

I bet some of the people would take the exact different view if it was a pro-Bush poster being denigrated. Kind of hypocritical?
by inter_regnum on Sat Oct 22, 05 6:23pm [+]

I don't know inter, she is my great aunt, not in good health at all, and I just don't think she wants to fight with the other residence over this, she dosen't like Bush, she makes that clear, they use their doors to express themselves, some are tacky, some aren't.

If you ever visted a senior citizens home, I'm sure you've seen this, it's not unique to this building.

I kinda resent what you said about her though inter, as I said , she is not in the best of health, I don't think she has the strength to fight this.

Not sure she is a babyboomer, she is in her 70's, isn't that Tom Brokaw's.
greatest generation, the ones who lived during the depression and ww2?

Do you think something is wrong with a picture asking Bush to apologize, maybe you do not feel he needs to , but apparently she does.

She is not anti american, she also puts a flag in her window on 4th of July and has yellow ribbons on her door , actually when the war first started, most of the residence had yellow ribbons ,and she kept hers on the longest, while the other residence changed to Seasonal Decorations

I just don't see the problem with the Bush sign.
by larrynelmira on Sat Oct 22, 05 6:57pm [+]

I fail to see how her health should require parameters on a discussion of free speech?

That seems like an artificial limitation. Of course I don't wish any member of your family ill. But of course you can't expect me to really feel something for someone I had never heard of until an hour ago. Can you?

I have been to old age homes. I do a lot of campaigning and that is a real fertile ground. I have never seen posters on the doors. And NONE of them were allowed to put up political campaign posters. Funny that you think because you have been to your aunt's home you are an expert and I don't have any knowledge. this is a discussion that you introduced by way of something that happened to your aunt. When you put up a ballot about your cousin and there were some very specific insults to your cousin I didn't see you whining about it. Why? Because his ill health was mental? Or is it that he is relatively young? And therefore consideration for his feelings are less important? and that was a much more personal reveal than this.

Should old people not be criticized for their selfishness?

and frankly larry I don't care that you resent what I said. I find that attitude a little insulting.

by inter_regnum on Sat Oct 22, 05 7:15pm [+]

And no someone in their 70's is not the greatest generation.

And why should I follow that line that someone is the greatest generation because some talking head on tv called them that?

What is so great about people who deal with the conditions they are in?

It is absolutely ridiculous.

And this so-called greatest generation is also the generation that demanded that the war end when it did instead of taking on the naked oppression of the soviets.

That sounds more like the biggest pussy generation than the greatest.
by inter_regnum on Sat Oct 22, 05 7:17pm [+]

And I didn't call her anti-American.

Instead of telling me how you fell, why don't you tell me how you think?"
by inter_regnum on Sat Oct 22, 05 7:18pm [+]

fell should be feel
by inter_regnum on Sat Oct 22, 05 7:28pm [+]

I've been to other senior citizen homes, and have seen this.

yes, I do have respect for the elderly, and it wouldn't matter if they had a bad heart, physical, or senile, mental.

We have different views about this.

I didn't say you said she was anti american, I just wanted to make the point clear that she isn't.

Far as the Soviets go, that's just your opinion, that we should have fought them after ww2. I didn't live in those times, and not going to pretend to understand the thinking , they just went through a world war
by larrynelmira on Sat Oct 22, 05 7:56pm [+]

what my cousin did to his parents was selfish of him, and I agree with the people who said it, not at all the same as this situation.

Should old people not be criticized for their selfishness?

I am criticizing the residence who want the sign taken down, and yes, all sorts of signs and other things are on the doors, not just cute pussys
by larrynelmira on Sat Oct 22, 05 8:16pm [+]

Whatever.
by inter_regnum on Sat Oct 22, 05 11:52pm [+]

^ ok, good
by larrynelmira on Sun Oct 23, 05 7:58am [+]





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