result #96504 - PALESTINIAN SOLUTION: GIVE GAZA STRIP TO EGYPT, GIVE WEST BANK TO JORDAN. AGREE?

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political : PALESTINIAN SOLUTION: GIVE GAZA STRIP TO EGYPT, GIVE WEST BANK TO JORDAN. AGREE?

[+] serious ballot by xxxxxxxx
created Thu Jun 29, 06

The Gaza Strip and the West Bank are populated by Palestinians.

This idea would be beneficial because:

1) Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza Strip would no longer have to be under Israeli rule.

2) Unlike the two-state solution, Israel would not be faced with a new nation-state hostile to its borders and existence.

3) The Egyptian and Jordanian nations-states are also Arabic and culturally have a lot in common with 'Palestinians'. There is a sense of sympathy and kinsmanship between Jordanian and Egyptian people toward 'Palestinian' people, and vice versa.

4) The Egyptian and Jordanian governments are relatively on good relations with both Israel and the Western powers. Both have recognised Israel's right to exist and its borders. Both are strategic partners of the West. Both also have relatively good economies in the region and this would be good for development in those regions.

5) The very idea of a 'Palestinian' nation-state was a superficial invention by the British and French colonists anyway. After the collapse of the Ottaman empire- Britain and France divided the Arab region into sectors that suited their interests. 'Palestine' emerged as one of them.

What do you think of this idea? Explain you opinion.

It is brilliant	40%
Won't make a bit of difference	18%
The big problem is that no one wants the Palestinians! Not Egypt, nor Jordan...	18%
It is awful	9%
Worthy of consideration	6%
Only Gaza Strip to Egypt, maintain West Bank's status quo	6%
Only West Bank to Jordan, maintain Gaza Strip's status quo	0%

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COMMENTS:
The biggest controversy just like the two-state proposal is the status os East Jerusalem. It would be most probably that Israel would maintain ALL of Jerusalem under this plan.

by xxxxxxxx on Thu Jun 29, 06 1:04am [+]

Egypt had that option in the past and they didn't want Gaza. Can you blame them?

Jordan illegally occupied (it's status was/is undetermined - part was meant for an Arab country) the West Bank for 30+ years and relinquished any rights to it a while back. Can you blame them? Palestinians declared war on Jordan in September 1970. This went on into 1971 until the rebellion was put down.

Your proposal existed before. It didn't bring peace. When Arab governments let refugees languish in camps (for the PR value) rather than help them, peace will not happen. Also, there are still a number of groups like Hammas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad that would not stop their activities. Certainly not unless the countries surrounding Israel (especially Syria) vigorously and ruthlessly put them down.

Would you proposal bring peace? It didn't before.

by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Thu Jun 29, 06 6:22am [+]

I don't have a problem with that plan (besides minor territories swap, that will save the need to relocate hundreds of thousands of people).

But the problem with that solution is that Egypt and Jordan will be responsible that no attacks on Israel comes out of the Palestinians in the mentioned areas, and it'll probably end up in another confrontation between Jordan (or Egypt) and the Palestinians - just like the 1970 one that Fiddle mentioned. So I think that neither the Jordanians and Egyptians, nor the Palestinians would agree.

by Yosi on Thu Jun 29, 06 7:01am [+]

^ Have to agree with Yosi.

by Cathexis on Thu Jun 29, 06 7:26am [+]

That is likely what the Palestinians have in mind. They may have a realization that they are unable to control their own people so by drawing others into the frey (countries that is) with such a plan. I don't think it will work, Israel is far too quick to go on the offensive when 'threatened' and this could lead to far more bloodshed.

by jappy on Thu Jun 29, 06 8:50am [+]

Those people in the Middle East will continue to fight over stuff that was written in books written ages ago. It doesn't matter who's running the show.

by _Beelzebubba on Thu Jun 29, 06 9:12am [+]

" Israel is far too quick to go on the offensive when 'threatened' and this could lead to far more bloodshed. "

Israel's regular policy is, besides operating directly against forces attacking it, is to operate against the governments which harbor the attacking forces, and from which the attacks on Israel are committed. Sadly, the Palestinians doesn't seem to care whether they have functioning government or not, so that policy doesn't bring results in the current conflict.

So what I like about the proposed plan, is the fact that the Egyptian president, and the Jordanian king do care about their government, so either they withdraw from taking responsibility of the Palestinian territories (which is more likely) or operate against the forces attackiing Israel from their territories.

by Yosi on Thu Jun 29, 06 9:37am [+]

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