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if thay are there and the lebones do nothing to stop them then thay condone them hence thay are just as guilty.
Is it fair to blame the Iraqi government for the actions of terrorist groups based there?
Is it fair to blame the Afghan government for the actions of the Taliban?
If the Lebanese government is providing support to terrorist groups, then yes. Otherwise, no.
If the Lebanese government doesn't support terror, than either it'll stop Hezbollah, and than Israel will make no claims, and if it's not stopping them - either because it doesn't want to, or he can't, in both cases Israel has full legitimacy to operate against Lebanon.
If the Lebanese don't want to stop them, that's the same as declaring war, because violence coming from the territories of sovereign country, is the responsibility of the government of that country.
If the Lebanese can't stop them, that's like saying that they're not sovereign state, making Israel attacks on Hezbollah, on "ungoverned" land (southern Lebanon) legal...
by Yosi on Wed Jul 12, 06 9:59am
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I see the points of both sides, however, as I've said many times, nothing can take away from this one fact:
The vast majority of Muslims do NOTHING to try and curb the lunacy of the fractured psychotic fundamentalist murdering Muslim terrorists, and when you say nothing and do nothing it's the same as if you stand behind them supporting them, by default!
In an ordinary country (i.e., one centrally controlled and powerful), the government would definitely have a lot of responsibility for activities originating from their land which harmed a neighbor.
However, the Lebanese government is a weak conglomeration of groups promoting their self interest over the nation, and Lebanon has many powerful factions which continue to govern various parts of the country. Syria continues to meddle in Lebanese affairs as well as supporting Hezbollah in its attacks on Israel.
So, I can't say that I blame the Lebanese government for the proliferation of terrorist groups there who act as autonomous forces.
I blame Syria far more than Lebanon.
So, if the U.S.-Israel can't stop terrorism within it's territories, or territories it dominates or manipulates, then that's the fault of the terrorists or their religion. But, if a country that isn't an ally or political colony of the U.S.-Israel can't control terrorism, then that's the fault of the government.
Right.
As for the Palestinian terror, the Palestinian government (PA) is sharing the blame, however, not in the level of sovereign country.
As for Iraq, the terror is directed towards fellow Iraqis, or mainly within Iraqi territories, so it's not the same situation in which country A gets attacked by terrorists from country B.
by Yosi on Wed Jul 12, 06 12:20pm
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Yosi:
The Bush Administration, and many U.S. conservatives, maintain that the insurgency in Iraq is mostly foreign fighter, not Iraqi citizens.
Also, should India hold Pakistan responsible for the Kashmir terrorists? Or is Pakistan different because Musharraf is a pal of the Bush Administration?
It is a combination of things. Lebanon bears the ultimate responsibility, but Syria and the other countries in the area that support Hezbollah like Iran, etc bear a lot of blame too.
Yes, Lebanon is weak. But you have to stand up and take responsibility. They are basically afraid to take action which shows you how dysfunctional Lebanon remains.
The Bush Administration, and many U.S. conservatives, maintain that the insurgency in Iraq is mostly foreign fighter, not Iraqi citizens.
Also, should India hold Pakistan responsible for the Kashmir terrorists? Or is Pakistan different because Musharraf is a pal of the Bush Administration?
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Your comparison is not valid. I haven't seen where any ONE country catches all the blame for the foreign insurgency here in Iraq. You are trying to lay all the blame for what goes on in India on the government of one specific country. It's been basically shown that the insurgents are from a variety of countries, with the tying influence that brings them together being miseducation of their own religion. They come from Pakistan, from Saudia Arabia, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, etc.
OK, so why doesn't the government of Iraq stand up and do something about it? When will they be held responsible for their inaction?
I marveled when the U.S. started threatening Syria because they weren't doing enough to seal the Syrian/Iraq border. Yet, the U.S. was sitting right there on the other side, accepting no responsibilty for the fact the insurgents were crossing back and forth. Why didn't the U.S. take some responsibilty for the porous border?
And what made it more outrageous was the fact that the richest, most militaristic nation in the world had millions of illegal immigrants pouring across its southern border, almost unchecked. Surely, the U.S. has more resources to seal a border than Syria does.
" The Bush Administration, and many U.S. conservatives, maintain that the insurgency in Iraq is mostly foreign fighter, not Iraqi citizens.
Also, should India hold Pakistan responsible for the Kashmir terrorists? Or is Pakistan different because Musharraf is a pal of the Bush Administration? "
The situation here, is that country is responsible for attacks coming from its territories against other countries, even not by its military. This is firmly anchored in international law. Now, regarding citizens of a country going to another country to attack targets there, the responsibility of the home country of the terrorists is less than in the first case, but, for example, when British citizens committed terror acts in Israel, the UK fully cooperated and fully investigated the backgroung and organization of that group, and Israel never blamed the UK for that attack. If you seek a model of what should happen in that case - take the UK actions, in that case, as such.
by Yosi on Wed Jul 12, 06 10:02pm
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Voted : No
israel cant bomb civilians in lebanon just to realese two soldiers.it is not a war to realese the soldier but more it is the way for israel to get power in lebanon just similar with USA in Palestine, so be aware of NEW IMPERIALISM OF USA N ISRAEL
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