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Submitted by : cranky
Submitted on : May 02,2005 11:19:01 am
Recently, a cross was burned into the lawn of an interracial couple in North Carolina. Does that qualify as a hate crime?
Yes, it seems implausible that this wasn't at least an attempt at intimidation, if not an outright threat.
maybe they were cold and needed to burn something to keep warm and all they had was a massive cross
You know, I remember the case of Isabel Jones here in the 50's. She wanted to marry a black man, & her mom called the Ku Klux Klan from the States. They burned a cross on her lawn, and when the police intervened, the chief shook hands with the ring leader. The case went to trial, and while the klan members were arrrested, Isabel and her fiance had to flee, made their way to the countryside and asked a preacher to marry them. Although there was fear that the klan might get him, he married them off anyway. They had a kid
Don't take everything you read at face value. Be suspicious and analytical about everything you read, see, or hear in the media or anywhere else.I can remember reading stuff in the ny times about race relations in boston growing up that were and are outright lies. Some people have to stop being so gullible and easily led. Do they realize how many times these so-called "hate crimes" were actually perpetrated by the alleged "victim" for God knows what reason or by people who wanted a particular group or class of people be blamed for something bad. Does tawana brawley ring a bell? I've read the statistics compiled by the FBI and I'll have to pull them up but they clearly show this was and is the case in the vast majority of cases. There was a case of a jewish female student at a college here in new england recently who claimed she was being harrassed by neo-nazis, putting swastikas on her dorm door, etc., turns out it was a complete lie and she was doing it to herself. but not before much media attention, demonstrations and marches were held.
from san francisco state university student paper:
Fake hate crimes not new
Colleges experiance recent rash of bogus hate incidents
by Minerva Perez, staff writer
November 20, 2003 01:06 PM
Leah Miller and Allison Jackson are not the first to have faked a hate crime in order to bring awareness to racism on campus.
SF State and the District Attorney’s office chose not to file any complaints of vandalism, filing a false report and tampering with evidence against the two students, instead letting the housing disciplinary and student judiciary process deal with the situation.
Miller, 18, told campus police that an unknown person slid a note under the door of her Mary Park Hall dorm room with the word “NIGG” written on it.
Jackson, 18, said “Black Bitches” was written on her Village at Centennial Square room door — possibly by her neighbor. After a police investigation, both Miller and Jackson confessed to police that they had written the words themselves.
In recent years, other campuses have experienced hate crime incidents later found to be fake.
In 2002, an Arizona State University student was charged on suspicion of faking anti-Muslim hate crimes because he was upset Muslims were being treated unfairly after the Sept. 11 attacks. He now faces trial for the charge of reporting a false crime and one year in jail if convicted.
In 2001, a gay student at the College of New Jersey confessed to sending death threats to himself and a gay student group. He was suspended from campus during the investigation and charged with a felony on suspicion of filing false police reports and harassment.
In 1998, members of Duke University’s Black Student Alliance claimed they did not do something they later admitted, a symbolic lynching. A black baby doll was found hanging from a tree where they were later supposed to hold a protest about the school’s inability to improve race relations on campus, and they tarred a bench to enhance support for their agenda. The group was ordered to pay clean-up costs....
Come on, Crank, who didn't know that?
Thanks for the ballot.
By the definition, yes. In reality, very few crimes committed AREN'T hate crimes.
No, I'm sure that the person did it because they loved this couple. Seriously, what isn't a hate crime? When do you murder/beat someone you like just for the heck of it? Giving special punishments based on skin color seems rather racist to me. Punish people for the crimes they comit, not for what they were thinking while they did it.
Assuming of course this was a real occurence, and not simply an attempt to get attention like the Trinity university letters, those were a hate crime at the time too.
Just like Hers, imply, from the closte, that the non-white victim is the guilty party.
But if I write something like: "assuming, of course, that Hers isn't a racist" then I'm accusing him of being a racist. Hmmmm.
And speaking of "giving special punishments based on skin color seems rather racist to me." They do that in Texas as a matter of course. It's an everyday occurrence.
And, actually, most crimes aren't hate-driven. I doubt if when someone is engaged in white collar crime, that they necessarily hate the bank or company they are stealing from. Jay-walking, shoplifing, bad driving, robbery, etc. I'm guessing that crimes involving hate toward the victim make up a small portion of the total.
Although, I will agree that hate crime laws are a slippery slope, and am not, generally, in favor of them.
"Just like Hers, imply, from the closte, that the non-white victim is the guilty party."
It's not with out precedent, as you are painfully aware. Sorry, but if you cry wolf too many times eventually people don't take you seriously anymore. The obvious solution would be for the black community, and especially self-proclaimed black leaders, to come out strongly against those sorts of fake hate crimes, but they never do.
Jewish student expelled for anti-Semitic website
Last updated May 3 2005 08:53 AM EDT
TORONTO – One of three students expelled from a private boys' school for posting anti-Semitic comments on a website is himself Jewish, the school's headmaster said Monday. Three students have been expelled and four more suspended from Royal St. George's College after the website was shut down last week. "Everybody is really shaken up and we have to digest this," said Hal Hannaford. "It really becomes very complicated." The grade 10 students' involvement with the website came to light after students at Branksome Hall, a private girls' school, told their principal about the site. One of the girls also wrote a note in the site's chat room, urging its creators to remove Nazi-themed material. In response, she was reportedly targeted with anti-Semitic slurs on the site. Branksome Hall principal Karen Murton says the school has always encouraged its girls to report intolerance "They must not simply be bystanders," Murton said. "They know the difference between right and wrong, so they must step forward. "I am proud of these girls." Both schools have now held student assemblies to draw attention to the issue of anti-Semitism. Social workers have also been brought in at Royal St. George's College to help the students deal with what the school describes as a tragic incident.