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HOW DOES RACISM AFFECT YOU? PLEASE TELL ALL...

RACIAL PREJUDICE is a major cause of annoyance, irritation and frustration, and in many cases, it can cause a great deal of resentment and strained relations, forcing the "superior minded" group to ignore, avoid, belittle and disadvantage those people who are considered to be from the minority group... even to the point of denying them recognition for great acheivements, well-deserved promotions and the same opportunities that people from their supposedly "superior race" enjoy and take for granted.

I want hear all about your stories of racial discrimination or hatred, with clear, factual examples of how racist people have treated you and how it made you feel. Please tell all the details but don't include the names of real people (Just use nick names or something that cannot be used to identify real people).

I want all people to see the harmful and emotionally damaging effects of racism, segregation, apartheid, racial discrimination and racial favouratism.

Please vote for which "race" of people have cause you the most grief when it comes to discrimination, and let us know the shocking details and facts of bad experiences that happened to you. I am writing a research paper on this topic and would like to know all the different ways in which you have been:

1. Disadvantaged, eg. overlooked for promotion
2. Put-down, insulted, harassed, offended
3. Ignored, avoided, treated like an outcast
4. Not being given due credit, work being stolen
5. Attacked, violently beaten, eg. kicked in the face just for tackling a person in a game of rugby, which is part of the rules of the game.

etc.

Actually, all of the above has happened to me, and most of the above happens to me on a weekly basis here in Australia. I'd like to also know what part of the world you live in too...

Caucasians ("whites" of European origin with pointy noses and pale or pink skin)
Brown skinned people ("Blacks" of African origin, Aborigines, Islanders, Polynesians, Indians)
Asians (Chinese, Japanese, black haired slopey eyed people from around South Eash Asia)
Middle-Eastern people ("Arabs", usually with dark skin, dark hair, usually Muslims)
Hispanics (Latinos, Mexicans, South Americans)

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Submitted by : blackcat06
Submitted on : Dec 24,2006 10:20:01 pm
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Which RACE of humans are the most RACIST and negative towards other races?


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Actually Bcat, the "indians" of which you speak are classified, according to classical anthropological theory as "caucasians". Just because their skin is dark, doesn't mean that they are "blacks" as you put it. It seems to me like you're sowing dissent, without due regard for scholarship,common sense, or sentient thought. For example, you use colour as the distinguishing characteristic for your ballot, yet it would make much more sense to group Aborigines (native Americans/) with the "slopey eyed " folks, as well as "indians" with the Caucasians; "hispanics" with both the "aborigines" and "europeans", etc. This is a completely flawed ballot, and I'm sad to have had to waste my time correcting your inherently incorrect premises.
What a lovely Christmas ballot. Peace on earth and goodwill towards men.
What flagrantviolator said. Also, it seems a little ironic to make a ballot asking which race of people is most racist.
Racism exists whenever any group of people consider themselves to be "chosen" or "special". Throughout history every race has practised this particular form of arrogance.
If all of the above happened to you, that's terrible. I hope you're Christmas is merry, and your new year is better.

To flagrantviolator:

I meant "Indian/Pakistani/Sri-Lankan" (brown skinned people), because they still fall under the category of "brown skinned people".

"It seems to me like you're sowing dissent" ... LOL... what do you know about racism? or are you just afraid of seeing the truth about how other races are being treated?

If you think this is a flawed ballot, because it was not written by a white guy who flaunts grandiose pompous words in an effort to draw admiration and attention to his own intellectual prowess, then you don't have to comment... just ignore and deny the truth about the suffering experienced by victims of racial prejudice.

If it makes you happy, then lets call the Indians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Iranians/Persians and whoever else lives in that area: "transcaucasians" or "Middle Eastern"... take your pick!

But if you have not experience racism or discrimination, then don't bother voting. This ballot is only for people who have been insulted, offended, belittled or attacked by obviously racist people who think they have the right to put-people down because of the genetics that they inherited, the DNA that they did not choose.

If you think this is a flawed ballot, then why comment? Why waste your time here? Who asked you to be a critic of the ballot?

Racism is not limited to *racial* decendancy. And to ask which race is more racist is a loaded question. More exacting to this point, you'll have to consider a per Capita varient, depending on what part of the world you live in.

I'm Caucasian, but I'm often mistaken for Hispanic. I live in the US, but I've experienced racist comments from all the above mentioned groups. It simply depended on where I happened to be at the time. Racist ideas are based in ignorance and ignorance abounds in every Country, Peoples, Race, etc., so I don't think you can honestly evaluate the who's the most racist race.

The question is equivalent to a witch hunt.

The Human Race!
Why do you assume I'm "white", as you call it? You're a fool.These "catagories" of which you speak are of your own design. It is a simplistic and immature way to view ethnicity.BTW, even though I'm only half "white", I know some full blooded Northern Europeans who have been robbed, viciously beaten and raped by hateful "black" because of their race. It affects everyon.Read a book. (that's NOT written by Louis Farrakhan)
Whites are more racists because they are a progressive people.

Other races are NOT!

White people have progressed more, and accomplished more that any other race.

Therefore they have disdain for the other races that sit on their asses and wallow in their own inferiority.

These guys aren't sitting on their asses wallowing in their own inferiority.


I don't agree with flagrantviolator about much, but I think he is on the mark on this ballot. The "race" categories that you use are completely bogus and have no connection logically, historically or genetically especially in the example of "brown skinned people". For someone who supposedly holds two advanced degrees, this ballot certainly does not indicate any level of scholarship whatsoever. The categories you use would likely get your research paper viewed very harshly as well.

This question could have been answered in a much better way - in fact it has been in other ballots. Experiencing racism, especially repeatedly is something most people have little to no comprehension of. I would hope that you might do a ballot something along the lines of that. Asking people who haven't experienced this is going to gain you little if any valuable information.

All the white people I know bend over backwards as to not offend anyone which would be considered a "minority". On the flipside I've had to endure a barrage of shit for being white, so you don't have to tell me which races are most blinded by racial hatred as I am all too aware, but this is just one corn fed, saltine cracker, wonder bread, powder, punk ass, white boys' opinion.
If you are white and you have experienced a racially motivated attack or insult, then go ahead and comment on your experience.

Even Japanese can be racist for not allowing white westerners to marry their daughters! Even blacks can be racist for insulting whites...

I am interested more in your experiences than any boring intellectual critique on the different types of races... that's missing the point entirely. So far, most people think that caucasians are the most racist, most "superior minded" race on the planet, due to all the race hate crimes that white people have committed.

Do you really think that the following activities are a sign of being a "progressive" culture?

1. Kidnapping blacks from Africa, breaking up their families and forcing them to work for nothing as slaves, planting and harvesting rice and cotton, in a foreign country?

2. Torturing and hanging black people from trees?

3. Murdering over 4,750,000 native North American Indians through starvation tactics (killing their main food supply, the buffalo herds through excessive hunting)

4. Murdering over 40,000 native Australian aborigines, almost to the point of extinction, and stealing their best lands?

5. Enslaving and forcing South American indians to live an arduous and difficult life to mine for gold?

6. Manipulating currency values of asian and dark skinned countries to be much lower than the currencies of Britain (Great British Pound), Europe (Euro), and the USA (US Dollar), so that white people can enjoy much higher buying power and control over the entire world's wealth?

eg. $1 US Dollar = 2 days salary for an average Sri Lankan man = 2.5 hours work for an average Filippino = 2 hours average salary in China = about 1 can of soda drink or 5 mins average pay in the US.

As you can see, even the worldwide money system today (currency markets) are inherently racist, and highly favour white countries which do not export or produce very much compared to the more industrialised and productive asian countries. (Check out the $1 trillion+ US trade deficit and the $22 trillion+ and rising US foreign debt)

If you don't believe me, go to your nearest American Express or Thomas Cook Money changers and look at the world's exchange rates.

One of the reasons I started this ballot is to expose the wrong assumptions and unjustified negativity associated with racial prejudice, and the strong undercurrents of social and professional apartheid still being (unofficially) practiced by many white people... where non-whites and asians are treated as outcasts, subjected to constant nit-picking and race-based oppression, at all levels and in all organizations. I hear about this all the time from asian and dark skinned professionals who have been constantly undermined, overlooked for promotions and bullied by coworkers and white bosses.

Is it possible that these negative "racist" reactions and the disrespect that non-whites are experiencing are nothing more than products of insecurity and unnecessary fear that the white racist feels, because he feels pressured to look and perform better than non-whites? Doesn't it go against all his pride and his belief system if a non-white person outperforms him or appears to be smarter than him? Is it possible that the white racist needs to see himself as superior because his parents and racist friends probably told him so and that he has a lot of expectations to live up to, to keep mummy and daddy happy? Is it possible that white culture has been brainwashed by the white loving mass media into believing that the entire world is white, when in fact, caucasians of European descent only make up about 11.7% of the entire world population? If you don't know what I am talking about, come to Australia and you will see that this is a "white wonderland" where all the people on TV are white, all the people in the magazines are white, all the people winning awards are white and hardly ever can you see an asian or a dark skinned person on TV... the other 88.3% of the other races of people are not even represented on TV or in popular magazines or in TV shows.

Why? Why do non-whites have to be treated differently (often disadvantaged) compared to whites? What kind of satisfaction does it give a white person when he "thinks" he is superior to someone of another race? How does it lengthen his life? How does it make him a better person more willing to give and share or make the world a better place? What is the purpose this competitive spirit and what is gained by asserting that one race is superior to another? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF RACISM other than to cause misery, anger, frustration and divisions?


QUESTION: Did those members of the KKK choose to be BORN WHITE? Or did their parents, and their parents CHOOSE to be born caucasian? Who told them that they are superior? If many people simply BELIEVE they are superior by birthright, does that make their belief TRUE? Many Europeans at one time in history believed that if they sailed too far from land, they could fall off the edge of the world, but did their beliefs stand up to the TRUTH? BELIEF DOES NOT EQUAL FACT!

Here are a few personal true stories:


As you are reading this, imagine me as a brown-skinned person who has lived in Australia since the age of 2, and I am now a 35-year-old University lecturer, who earned a PhD in Engineering at the age of 27. I went through the same education system as other white Australians, studied at the same High Schools and Universities, even watched all the same TV shows and movies growing up in this white culture.

So look at how dark skinned people are treated:

1. Being refused a promotion to the next academic payrate level after working at this certain University for over 8 years, after being forced to handle the jobs of 2 lecturers (because one was always away on sick leave), after developing all the teaching materials and labs for 5 of the 7 subjects that they teach in my area of expertise and after earning more RPI (Research Points Index) per year than other academics who were already at the level where I wanted to be promoted to, because the all-white promotion committee IGNORED my 12 peer-reviewed technical research papers that were internationally published, and suggested that I should focus on achieving measurable research outcomes and publish more peer-reviewed papers. In fact, my 3 referees (a world famous Professor, 2 Associate Professors), the Head of my Department and the Dean of my Department had all recommended that I get the promotion, but these recommendations were ignored without any good reason. I also have 3 commercial inventions to my credit and another 12 inventions (many of which are patent pending) being developed as we speak.

2. Being stripped of the Senior Dux Award in year 12, when I clearly had the highest marks in my High school by far. My name was initially written on the honours roll, because I came top in Physics, Maths 1, Maths 2 and Graphics, and I was initially names "Senior Dux" on the notice board. The next day, my name was scribbled out with red pen and the name of another white student was written above my name as the "Senior Dux". I went to the Principal demanding an explanation, and he told me that most of the teachers protested against me being awarded the Senior Dux, with no reason given, so he yielded to their request, despite the fact that the other student only came top in Chemistry and Biology (a subject I didn't study), and that my average marks were far higher than him in Maths 1, Maths 2 and Physics. I was a straight A student during my senior high school years with the highest grades among all the year 11 & 12 students but the teachers chose to give the top student award to the wrong guy.

Even the white guy who won the award initially refused it, saying that it
was unfair and that I should be awarded the prize, but eventually, he
yielded to the pressure from the white teachers who could not believe that
a dark skinned student could outsmart and outperform their best white
student. So a massive lie was committed on "Speech Night", where they
awarded the "Top Student" prize to the guy who was probably only the
4th best student. There were 2 other asian students ranked after me who
earned higher marks in Maths and Physics than the "Official" Senior Dux.

3. Being stripped of the Junior Dux Award in year 10, when I clearly had the highest marks by far. I came top in all subjects except History, (Maths, Science, Graphics, etc), but the teachers awarded the "Top Student" (Junior Dux) award to a blue-eyed blonde guy who came top only in History.

4. Being constantly disrespected and yelled at in the workplace by lower ranked staff members, where I had not done anything wrong: eg. Being yelled at in public "Get out of my way you FU*KING IDIOT!"; "Get out of here, go on, PISS OFF!"; "You're pissing me off!"; not even wanting to listen to my side of the story. Occasionally even being yelled at and insulted by white students: "Why don't you just shut up! Your interruptions are so annoying!" (during seminars where I was the examiner and had the right to question students giving their speeches)

5. Sitting at a restaurant with my pretty blonde girlfriend of 2 years, and another blonde lady friend... a white waiter who was a total stranger comes up to our table to serve us, looks with disbelief at the 2 blonde girls sitting either side of me, and yells out for almost everybody in the restaurant to hear: "What are you two girls doing hanging around this LOSER?" (I was well dressed, not overweight, I did not cause any commotion or trouble previously, I was just sitting there at the table waiting to get served, when this racist guy comes out with that insult!)

6. In over 8 years working at this University, I have not had even ONE caucasian (white) PhD or Masters student ask me to supervise his postgraduate research project, but all the other white lecturers get 3 or more postgraduate students to do their research for them... most of the time using technologies that I first introduced and taugt to those students in undergraduate subjects that I developed.

There are many many others, like when I had been called a "black sh!t" in public, or on other occasions where I would not get served in shops, or I would get deliberately kicked in the mouth while still on the ground, requiring several stitches to sew back my lower lips, because I had tackled a white football player in a game of football... to getting beaten up and punched in the face through no fault of my own... But I'll save some for later... I want to know how bad it is for most of you dark-skinned guys and asians out there!

Do you have any funny or interesting experiences with racist media reporters and newspapers? I've got many and you will have a big laugh...

So don't get me wrong... I like many white people and I have had relationships with 3 white girls in the past, but one fact that white people should all come to grips with, is that non-white people are just as human as white people and are deserving of the same kind of respect that whites show to other whites. The thing is, respect doesn't cost anything! Respect and honour is free!



>These guys (KKK) aren't sitting on their asses wallowing in their own inferiority.


The truth is, non-white people are not inferior, even though white racists choose to treat them that way! The disease and problem called "racial prejudice" is all in the mind of the racist!!!

Wrong assumptions lead to wrong beliefs and wrong actions...

" 1. Kidnapping blacks from Africa, breaking up their families and forcing them to work for nothing as slaves, planting and harvesting rice and cotton, in a foreign country?

2. Torturing and hanging black people from trees?

3. Murdering over 4,750,000 native North American Indians through starvation tactics (killing their main food supply, the buffalo herds through excessive hunting)

4. Murdering over 40,000 native Australian aborigines, almost to the point of extinction, and stealing their best lands?

5. Enslaving and forcing South American indians to live an arduous and difficult life to mine for gold?"

The only relevant difference between Indo-european civilization and non Indo-European culture is that it's technology has been the most advanced.The same racialism that exists in whites I believe to be actually *more* prevailant in other races than Indo-europeans.Indo-europeans have been more successful technologically which subsequently offers a bigger stick for the elites and leaders to employ when coercing thier subjects into waging warfare.It isn't as if whites themselves haven't suffered at the hands of white civilization.Don't lull yourself into some illogic that whites are inherently more "racist" than non whites.They have had superior technology though and that is a critical difference.The problem you cite is "civilization" which is just another,convoluted,form of selective biological pressure and a nasty one at that.

couple of examples from my home town: 3 Mexican dudes stabbed a white guy because he was as they put it a "bitch ass white boy".

A car load full of black teens jumped out, beat the shit out of a 12yr old white kid, they told him it was a pocket check. They stole his wallet, then spouted off some racial epithets and slammed a bike on his chest puncturing his lung.



I suppose these events occured because of white oppression right?

blackcat06,you may not realize but many of your comments carry a racist tone by virtue of the fact that you hold your personal experiences and perceptions to be some sort of standard.You also base that standard on the irrelevant point of skin color.There are stats that I can pull to put this whole conversation into real context that may put me at odds with non-whites here that I personally like.I DON'T like want to sew misunderstanding with people that I genuinely like but at the same time I tire of the same "oppresive whites" rhetoric.
As you can see, even the worldwide money system today (currency markets) are inherently racist, and highly favour white countries which do not export or produce very much compared to the more industrialised and productive asian countries. (Check out the $1 trillion+ US trade deficit and the $22 trillion+ and rising US foreign debt)
by blackcat06 on Mon Dec 25, 06 6:04pm

You have a great deal to learn Blackcat, as I have pointed out to you before. You don't seem to be too clear on facts. The facts are, the United States is the largest manufacturer in the world. Check it out. Secondly, the USA and Germany are closely tied for being the largest exporters in the world. Much more than China or Japan. Third fact. China produces very little on it's own. In fact, virtually everything China produces is on behalf of Western countries. Most of their factories are built by Western companies and, it is ONLY China's ego that forces this fake "Made in China" label and it's only the PRC Army that requires that the foreign companies give the Chinese government a 51% stake in the factor itself...meaning the building.

If the USA and Western European decided tomorrow to have their good assembled in India or Mexico, China would collapse. The only major economies in Asia that are fairly self-sufficient are Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

You are either getting bad information, such as with your debt numbers and export numbers, or you make them up. After all, I recall reading in one ballot in which you said the US debt was $57 trillion. So which is it.

You seem angry and I think that makes you find any "fact," no matter how wrong, that backs you up.

I suggest you learn more about the world economy. Products are madea all over the world today. A computer I buy could be built almost all in the USA, but gets sent to China for some small pieces to be added in...inside could be parts from Japan, Taiwan, France, Russia, Poland, etc., etc. That's the way it works. China's economy is based soley on making or helping to make products on behalf of other nations. They own none of it.

Hispanics (Latinos, Mexicans, South Americans),
This is incorrect. You'd better check your etnographic sources again

Patch22us... should stop believing everything he watches on TV... the fact is, Ford and GM have LOST more than 78% of their original automobile manufacturing skilled workforce since 1971 and those companies are on the verge of bankruptcy... Delphi and Visteon are also very close to shutting down as corporate vultures are preparing to shut down more plants and sack hundreds of thousands more... Most of the biggest US Airlines are in serious financial trouble and are planning to shut down soon.

About 75% of the entire US Economy is a "Services Economy" that is not related to exporting physical goods and merchanise or exportable products. Americans are now mostly working in the areas of fast food restaurants (unhealthy junk food), pop and rap music, entertainment, movies and other "make shift" jobs like buying and selling derivatives (paper money like bonds, currency, contracts, futures, options trading) ...

The USA is in a massive amount of debt and very soon, possibly in 2007, economic experts are warning on a systemic collapse of the entire US economy, starting with the massive housing bubble, held up artificially by overpriced homes, whose prices are going to come crashing very soon, leaving lots of people in a state of poverty and endless enslavement to the bankers.

And you think the US is the most productive country in the world? It is the most indebted country on the planet per head of population and most of your value adding manufacturers have fled to China and other cheap-labour asian countries...

And you call that social progress?

Just look at the conditions of the NAFTA trade agreement between the US and Mexico and find out who are getting the raw deal... it turns out that Mexico is growing food for Californians at a very low price, but the water for the Mexican farms is supplied by the USA and is more expensive than the food being sold to the USA... so in reality, Mexicans are PAYING for the privilege of working hard to feed Americans! They are making massive losses just for feeding Americans! Study up on your own recent history...

Then tell me how the (white controlled) World Bank/IMF treated countries like Argentina, Brazil, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and other asian economies that they have exploited by EXPANDING THEIR DEBT LEVELS ARTIFICIALLY ON PAPER by DEVALUING THEIR CURRENCIES relative to the US Dollar... It seems white people can't get enough of SLAVERY AND FEUDALISM, THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT GLOBAL!

Isn't that the system of usury and exploitation that most of the early Europeans were trying to escape from when they chose to leave England and Europe hundreds of years ago to start a new life in North America, which was not under the control and oppression of bankers and rich feudal Lords and Kings who taxed everyone heavily?



To Robotthinker:

>>blackcat06,you may not realize but many of your comments carry a racist tone by virtue of the fact that you hold your personal experiences and perceptions to be some sort of standard.

So if my true statements and stories shock or upset you, isn't that a good thing?

>>You also base that standard on the irrelevant point of skin color.

It's very very relevant... You don't get called a BLACK SH!T by strangers who you don't know, or whom you have not even spoken to before, without a good reason...

>>There are stats that I can pull to put this whole conversation into real context that may put me at odds with non-whites here that I personally like.I DON'T like want to sew misunderstanding with people that I genuinely like but at the same time I tire of the same "oppresive whites" rhetoric.

I'm not saying all white people are racist... Obviously my 3 previous caucasian girlfriends were not... neither are the whites who marry asians or people from other cultures... but a very large percentage of whites still secretly harbour the attitude that they are superior by birthright and this manifests itself in their bad manners, constant negativity, constant nit-picking and disrespectful behaviour towards non-whites. There is still a strong undercurrent of covert apartheid being practiced by many racist white people, and this is due to prejudice and fear, and their need to reaffirm or confirm their beliefs of superiority.

Frankly, I am tired of putting up with that kind of BS in my life and I will ask people straight to their face: "Are you just looking for the worst in me because you don't like my flat nose or dark skin? What's your problem? Am I not worthy of respect because I don't look like a white authority figure like the kind you see on TV or on the movies? Who told you that you are superior?"

By the way, non-white people are just as capable as white people are of coming up with new inventions too. Look at my example... I have 3 new engineering inventions to my credit with over a dozen commercial inventions that are patent pending and being planned for manufacturing. Look at the Flourescent light bulb... who invented that? A dark skinned Filippino man, Mr Floures, but they don't teach that at University now do they? The white lecturers teach the Flourescent light technology, but they never mention that it was first developed by a dark skinned man. But they always mention that Newton was a British Mathematician, or Gauss was a German Mathematician, or Von Mises was German Civil Engineer... even my own PhD work, a new invention that took me 4 years to develop, being displayed at a Science museum, DOES NOT EVEN mention my ethnic name on the plaque, but instead, they put a big poster of a famous white scientist next to my invention to make it appear as though he invented it... That's giving credit where it is due hey!!!!

Like I said before... respect is free... it doesn't cost white people anything to recognize that dark skinned people have brains and good ideas and deserve credit too...

Voted : Asians (Chinese, Japanese, black haired slopey eyed people from around South Eash Asia)
If I had to choose a group, it would be East Asians. European Caucasians are probably the least racist.

>>If I had to choose a group, it would be East Asians. European Caucasians are probably the least racist.

Can you give some examples of how they have mistreated you? Detailed true stories explaining how they have oppressed you or belittled you?

"It's(skin color)very very relevant."

I was refering to the skin color of the perpetraitors because systemic racism is the result of cultural clashes and as such exists between all races and ethnicitites.IE/a uniquely genetic predisposition towards racism shouldn't be implied where generic human ignorance is to blame.You're attaching racism to white skin while ignoring ordinary ignorance and cultural friction.

"You don't get called a BLACK SH!T by strangers who you don't know, or whom you have not even spoken to before, without a good reason..."

Again it comes down to context.Young,poor,urban whites suffer "hate" crimes more than anybody else in the US no matter how much the media distorts the issue.As for name calling I'd rather be called white sh*t than receive a punch to the head by total "brown" strangers for being the only white guy around as happened to me while at a urinal no less.There have been other incidents too.Welcome to the club.

"but a very large percentage of whites still secretly harbour the attitude that they are superior by birthright and this manifests itself in their bad manners, constant negativity, constant nit-picking and disrespectful behaviour towards non-whites."

You say that as if whites are especially ignorant.Doesn't that strike you as hypocritical?I don't see these types of people more prevailant among whites.Most people are trying to get on with their lives,including whites.


Got to split now,BRB later...

Hispanics (Latinos, Mexicans, South Americans)= this is incorrect

To Robotthinker... you have no idea what its like to be an outcast, 24/7. Try this experiment. Wear dark or black contact lenses. Dye your hair totally black. Cover all your skin with dark fake tanning lotion so you look golden or dark brown. Do this with your friends for fun if you like. Then practise a very strong Indian accent, so people will think you are from India or Sri Lanka...

Keep up this disguise for over a week, and let me know how most of the white people in your community start treating you, compared to before when you looked like them... go on! If you lived in Australia, you will experience instant negativity and disrespect almost wherever you go. Many white people will despise you, treat you like an outcast, nit-pick on you, and LOOK FOR THE WORST IN YOU because of your dark skin and different accent... that's 100% guaranteed! Almost EVERY DARK SKINNED PERSON I have spoken to in Australia has told me true stories about how they have been disrespected and disadvantaged in almost all kinds of jobs and schools, colleges and Universities imaginable. Is this just a coincidence? Dozens of dark skinned people feeling like outcasts, ignored and belittled, often insulted, in a country that is over 90% white?

Try it anyway, and you will know what it's like to live like a dark skinned person. If that sounds too severe, just settle for the black dyed hair and hang around a lot of asians or Chinese and see how they are treated.

All I am asking is that you find out the truth for yourself. Don't believe me or what I am saying, do the experiments yourself. Talk to black people, they don't bite. Most of them are actually very nice if you show some respect and a friendly genuine welcoming smile, rather than an attitude of superiority or contempt. Show some interest in non-whites. Most of them are decent, kind and genuine people who are often feel ignored and unappreciated, almost invisible, especially if they work in a majority white environment. Don't assume all blacks behave the way they are stereotyped by Hollywood movies, as loud, annoying, overly talkative "know it alls" - THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHITE MAN BRAINWASHING to make you think blacks are dumb when in fact they can be just as smart as any other white guy with the same educational and financial opportunities.


Blackcat, I have bad news for you. I don't get my information from TV. I get it from my family's business. You make up facts or you get your supposed facts from blogs and other personal web sites. Sorry to burst your bubble, but on this issue, I am extremely well read and educated. Sorry, but you're just very wrong.

Here are some real facts to set you straight. Instead of being in such a rage all the time, maybe you should take the time to become educated on hard, real facts, instead of making stuff up to try and make your point. You lose all credibility that way. Stop being drawn in my bad information and made up stats and statistcis.

Read:

Manufacturing is the engine that drives American prosperity. It is central to our economic security and national security. Manufacturing:

grows the economy. Every $1.00 in manufactured goods generates an additional $1.37 worth of additional economic activity - more than any other economic sector.

invents the future. Manufacturers are responsible for more than 70 percent of all private sector R&D, which ultimately benefits other manufacturing and non-manufacturing activities.

competes internationally. The United States is the world's largest exporter; 61 percent of all U.S. exports are manufactured goods, double the level of 10 years ago.

generates productivity increases. Over the past two decades manufacturing productivity gains have been more than double (actual figure 2.5 times) that of other economic sectors. These gains enable Americans to do more with less, increase our ability to compete and facilitate higher wages for all employees.

About 75% of the entire US Economy is a "Services Economy" that is not related to exporting physical goods and merchanise or exportable products. Americans are now mostly working in the areas of fast food restaurants (unhealthy junk food), pop and rap music, entertainment, movies and other "make shift" jobs like buying and selling derivatives (paper money like bonds, currency, contracts, futures, options trading) ...



Blackat, if the stats above are the type you're trying to pass off as real, you really are a complete fraud. I suggest you investigate the numbers in the high-tech sector, finanace and manufacturing. I can't believe you just make things up.

How about for once posting some links so we can all see the types of "factual" sources you use. I seem to recall Wideheadofknowledge totally debunking you just recently. What are you? Some type of Minsister of Dis-information?

I'll keep posting real facts for you Blackcat.

Why look, here's another one from the Times-Tribune:


As a sector, manufacturing has been shedding jobs since World War II. To remain competitive, manufacturers race to increase productivity with better equipment and processes. That often means fewer workers.

"The use of computers and improvement in manufacturing process has prompted great increases in productivity," said Dr. Anthony Liuzzo, professor of business administration at Wilkes University. "That had decreased total employment, but made the U.S. worker and U.S. manufacturer the most productive in the world."

And here are some more FACTS for you:

In 2005, the Uniteds States exported about $1.3 trillion in goods and services. Of that, about $900 billion alone was in MANUFACTURED Goods:

$2005
Jan.- Dec.

Exports
In Billions of Dollars

Goods: 894,631

Services: 380,614

Total: 1,275,245

If you took the time to read WTO and Census Bureau stats and other FACTS, you'd know all of this.

And yet more facts. Look, you can have a ballot on anything you want, but I'm tired of seeing your ballots do nothing but spread lies, made up facts and dis-information. You have some beef, and that's clear, but you have to be honest and you're not being honest with the supposed "facts' you post.

United States Exports and Imports
Top 12 Export Product Groups 2005

In Billions of US Dollars

1. Electrical machinery, apparatus and appliances
$87,287

2. Road vehicles
61,703

3. Office machines and automatic data processing machines
49,751

4. Transport equipment
38,356

5. Miscellaneous manufactured articles
48,698

6. General industrial machinery and equipment
37,371

7. Machinery specialized for particular industries
29,628

8. Power generating machinery and equipment
28,194

9. Professional scientific and control instruments and apparatus
29,441

10. Telecommunication and sound record and reproduce apparatus and equipment
31,416

11. Cereals and cereal preparations
19,153

12. Organic chemicals
18,012



So of that nearly $trillion dollars in MANUFACTURED exports, about $480 billion of that is from the top 12 MANUFACTURED export groupings listed above.

Facts. A wonderful thing.

I think focusing on which group is racist will just piss everyone off. blackcat06, as far as your own situation is concerned, it certainly is wrong if you had to put up with prejudice. Maybe you over-generalize a bit, and maybe I would too if I were in your position. I wish you well.
blackcat
I addressed the question in the ballot title, not the body of the ballot. East Asians haven't mistreated me, many even think I am part Asian. However, I have witnessed anti-black racism among East Asians in New York and I've heard from East Asian friends about the intolerant views of their parents. American born East Asians seem to be very tolerant, but the culture in East Asia is not friendly to outsiders, especially dark skinned ones.

Aw come one patch. Be nice. Blackcat06 is a PhD in mechanical engineering (or whatever) and a lecturer. You can't expect him to be an economics PhD as well!
ken can have any degree he wants. they're just like his evidence.
"because the all-white promotion committee IGNORED my 12 peer-reviewed technical research papers"

If they were as good as the shit you spouted about the physics surrounding 9-11 it's not surprising.


Blackcat06,you are a Moron.
Entire North India consists of people which migrated to India from Europe millenniums ago,Aryans,Dravidians came from countries like Greece etc and Jatt Sikhs are the descendants of Romans Alexanders army which settled in India and they had no intention of ever going back in 326 B.C.
Which proves my other point...Racism is stupid and without logic.

Voted : Caucasians ("whites" of European origin with pointy noses and pale or pink skin)
I think whites are the most racist bu t also get made fun of the most.
Voted : Brown skinned people ("Blacks" of African origin, Aborigines, Islanders, Polynesians, Indians)
This discussion becomes 'racist' as soon as you take the reported crimes of a miniscule number of people and bestow guilt upon the whole category of people to which the perpetrators are conceptually related. I've noticed that many black people openly practice this technique in order to gain undeserved advantage from whites in white societies. Blacks understand this white achilles heel very well. It is working very well for them now. However, this situation will not last and black guilt manipulation will not be forgotten.




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