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serious question. it's a known fact that the masses can be pretty unrealistic and unreasonable. example - they want universal healthcare in the united states, but then say "but don't raise my taxes." so where does the money come from? cutting some place else, right? then the people say "hey! don't cut that program!"

so how can any politician really succeed in any democracy, when the people are so unrealistic?

when hillary clinton was running (before barack really was a contender), democrats loved her and praised her. when barack was moving up in the race, so many turned on her and raved about how great barack obama is and what a great president he would be -- that would be fine, but they totally shreded hillary too. all through the election it was praise, praise and more praise for barack.

now the man literally just got elected 2 weeks ago and is not even in any position of authority and there are people who have already begun to cannibalize him -- some of them being his ardent supporters.

so what do people expect? perfection? governing a country in a democracy means for the greater good of the whole nation, but everyone wants their own agenda and can't see passed their own immediate interests.

instead of rationalizing, they internalize it and make their complaints about decisions being made based purely on their own prejudices -- the leader is then hung out to dry and some of these people are ready to feed them to the wolves.

share your thoughts on this issue. do you agree that sometimes, the people need to stop reacting so eratically and be less bipolar? (the people meaning all the people)

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Submitted by : Kev24
Submitted on : Nov 13,2008 5:04:15 pm
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is this a reason why we're always in trumoil?


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Voted : you're right
i agree with myself.


Voted : i disagree
I can only speak for myself, but I always felt uneasy about a spouse of a former president (especially one who was labelled "billary" as they pretty much ran the white house together) running for the presidency for the unofficial third term. As for "turning on her" it was pretty much a response to her negative campaign tactic, which made obama look like an angel.

I don't expect perfection. I expect people to keep those they put in power on a very very short leash. it's a powerful job given to one person, and that office has been abused for the last 8 years. We should always expect accountability from our employees, which the office of presidency and congress are.

again, personally, I will jump on Obama and tear him to shreads on the internet if he even thinks about straying away from his campaign promises.

We voted for change, we expect change.
by LCD [+]

as for your examples of healthcare, we are so used to the corrupt system that we don't see the obvious points. it's the job of the capitalist government to open the system to fair competition, which it failed to do repeatedly. Open the system up to foreign doctors, medicines, workers, treatment facilities, and get the money from the subsidies given to idiot cousins and 2nd cousins and frat brothers of whoever in power, and we will have more than enough money to take care of everyone on earth.

by LCD [+]

as for your examples of healthcare, we are so used to the corrupt system that we don't see the obvious points. it's the job of the capitalist government to open the system to fair competition, which it failed to do repeatedly. Open the system up to foreign doctors, medicines, workers, treatment facilities, and get the money from the subsidies given to idiot cousins and 2nd cousins and frat brothers of whoever in power, and we will have more than enough money to take care of everyone on earth.


by LCD on Thu Nov 13, 08 2:25pm


^ huh? you lost me there. what you describe is certainly nothing like the revered systems in canada or europe.

again, personally, I will jump on Obama and tear him to shreads on the internet if he even thinks about straying away from his campaign promises.

We voted for change, we expect change.
by LCD on Thu Nov 13, 08 2:20pm

^ and that's the problem. look at what you're doing -- you're already doing that and the man is not even officially president yet. what can he do? so what, you want him to just let the auto industry collapse? you see the stats i showed in the other ballot. so put 3 million people at risk all because you expect him to stick to every single campaign promise? things change lcd. you've never gone back on a promise you made because the situation or environment changed? every politician does it by necessity. if you're the type that will print out every single thing he's said and nit-pick everything, what do you expect? you don't live in a utopia lcd. no one does. sorry but as long as he adheres to his overarching principles, i'm all about considering the the situation at the time.

sounds like you really wanted some kind of bloody coup and revolution. you must love guys like stalin.

"man is not even officially president yet. what can he do?"

he can stop saying to the press that he supports this and that, which is completely contrary to his platform of change.

it does have an effect youknow.
by LCD [+]

Voted : you're right
It's that way for state governors, too. The popular ones in New Jersey borrowed money, the one that raised taxes to balance the budget (Florio) almost got lynched, and the one who cut spending to make the budget kinda less unbalanced (Corzine) is unpopular.
The people say, "What?"




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