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Submitted by : detroithatecore
Submitted on : Jan 21,2004 3:42:50 pm
Why do Blacks commit so much crime?
Blacks are ok.I like them.
Well said detriot. Most blacks are just savages and wild animals without the thinking capacity of other nationalities. They are the race that hasn't evolved, and the race that has never brought about a sucessful civilization that ruled the world. They are the lower end of the evolution process, and can only copy and mimmick that what they see others do. Monkey say, monkey do. The world has never known a black philosopher,and shall never do so as blacks hold the least IQ of all races, and refuse to evolve. That doesn't mean to say they are not decent people, but if you check facts, you will find I am correct
Racists are the nig*ers of the 21st century,whites with inferiority complexes.I pity you all, your not fit to shine a black man's shoes.
It be scrimination
White people are by far the majority of criminals, they just fly under the radar because their white. Killing, raping, stealing like crazy, and you just keep chasing people of color. Blacks just get caught the most. You white folks need to start checking each other a little closer. Idiots. Seek and ye shall find -- truth. Now you can't lock up all your own can you? That would mess with your little heads, and all your fancy statistics.
If America were free of minorities we would not have to lock our doors. And it used to be that way before all the nigs and third world scum came crawling in!
I don't know whos been stealing my frends tools but, QUIT IT!!!
thats a bunch of shit!!!!! the news is so friggin rediculous because you never see much about the common white man's crimes...they only choose to publish the black man-you're a douche!!!!
I went on a ride along patrol with a police officer, and we investigated a robbery. hispanic family, the guys own brother stole from him. pretty sad
This poll is a good honest question, and throwing the the overused term "racism" at it wont make the truth go away.
The historical reason for black crime in the American ecosystem is slavery. Canada, which has never had slavery.. and also maintains nearly the same % of blacks.. shows a crime rate among blacks to be the same as whites.
The only reason slavery existed, was because white men developed the rifle before the black man.. and had the disposition to use it in the 19th century.
I hope some blacks come to your house tonight and commit a murder.
Statistics can be slanted any way you wish.
White collar crime hurts MANY more - and a miniscule amount of these crimes are followed by the press.
Liberal press? Or selective press.
Heard anything about Ken Lay lately?
What about the Haliburton/asbestos suits?
Most morons believe that there is no racial profiling.
WHO OWNS THE MAJORITY OF THE PRESS???
detroithatecore I seriously think you have your facts mixed up. Most kidnappings are done by whites, most big robberies, most car thefts, ect. Plus more whites are in prison. People need to stop being so racist- it's stupid.
Blacks don't commit crime, I can prove it NOT!!!!
From the American Bureau of Justice Statistics -
** "At yearend 2002 there were 3,437 sentenced black male prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,176 sentenced Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 450 white male inmates per 100,000 white males".
** Of the 246,100 state prison inmates serving time for drug offenses in 2002, 139,700 (56.7%) were black, 47,000 (19%) were Hispanic.
** "When total incarceration rates are estimated separately by age group, black males in their twenties and thirties are found to have high rates relative to other groups. Among the more than 2 million offenders incarcerated on June 30, 2002, an estimated 596,400 were black males between ages 20 and 39"
"Although incarceration rates drop with age, the percentage of black males age 45 to 54 in prison or jail in 2002 was an estimated 3.9% -- more than twice the highest rate (1.7%) among white males (age 30 to 34)."
"Regarding State prison population growth from 1990 through 2000, the US Dept. of Justice reports, "Overall, the increasing number of drug offenses accounted for 27% of the total growth among black inmates, 7% of the total growth among Hispanic inmates"
**"1.46 million black men out of a total voting population of 10.4 million have lost their right to vote due to felony convictions. ""
** One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 years old is under correctional supervision or control. "
**At current levels of incarceration, newborn Black males in this country have a greater than 1 in 4 chance of going to prison during their lifetimes, while Latin-American males have a 1 in 6 chance, and white males have a 1 in 23 chance of serving time"
look at numbers, look at the factors, put away the emotions, and accept the facts. If nature did design them to be more apt to crime through their own adapted physical and cultural processes, then so be it. Nature will play out whether we want it to or not. Political correctness will soon be in the dustbin of failed ideas.
Everybody knows blacks are just as good as whites. And in many aspects; better. There are a lot of odds stacked against blacks. Influx of drugs into black neighborhoods, because drugs free people from facing hardships, and it brings fast cash.
Hundreds of years of oppression has led to lack of economic power, the family structure, and equal educational opportunity.
So, you do have the luxury of saying more blacks are incarcerated, But the represent the fallen soldiers in a society that hates and fears them. But not all of the black race will fall victim to an unfair society. Many are focused, and driven to success. And the immortal words of that spiritual song still resounds through their minds, "We shall overcome someday."
Why does everyone blame everyone except the black people. Its society, its because thier ancestors, blah blah blah, It's because a black makes the free choice to do the crime, no bleeding heart case bullshit made them do it
I can't help it if you have an oppressive attitude. that's your choice.
YOU probably haven't been illegally searched by police because of your skin color.
YOU probably haven't experienced inquiring about a job and getting the door slammed in your face before you could prove your worth. YOU probably never tried to get an apartment and experienced the same thing. Or when you try to get a business loan.
So, STFU. Oppression is alive and well my friend. YOU haven't experienced it. So YOU do not know what you're talking about.
You're wrong, Guest_20e4f . I do know you're experiences and your color. For i am your real father and haved kept watch on you your whole life. I have seen your birth and I know two possibilities for your future. And unless you open your mind to reality, one possibility is you will die in ignorance.
Do any of u guys have a sense of humor? why be so anal retentive and tense all the time? So, you oppress blacks, don't feel bad. Maybe if you change your attitude today, you'll feel better.
List of demands-
White people have been very unfair to blacks in this country, therefore we deserve special privileges.
These include, and are not limited to:
1-Free quality housing. Not the ghetto, but Beverly Hills type housing.
2-Free cars. Brand new model cars of the current year.
3-Free food. Whatever we want.
4-Free clothes. Whatever we want.
5-Sex with your wives and fiancees. You must drop your lady off at our house at our request, and return no sooner than 12pm the next day. If she refuses sex, you must pay us $1000.
And if you dispute these demands, that is a form of oppression. Oppression will not be tolerated.
And you guys better not disagree with me, or i'm telling the Naacp.
If you look at the statistics compiled by the Bureau of Criminal Justice, you will see that more than HALF of all the crimes are committed equally by White, Black and Hispanic males aged 16-19. I've said this before, obviously--I don't know where detroithatecore obtained his crap statistics. I suspect he pulled them out of thin air. Those bent on being racist will simply discount what I'm saying but those are the facts. So instead of focusing on race, we should be focusing on what's wrong with our young people. Why is crime among juveniles rising?
There's no arguing with these guys. They're hellbent on perpetuating the idea that all blacks are criminals.
Guest_82cb1 is one of the sensible ones. Her facts and question is focused on a real issue, and not a racial inferiority complex like Penisaurus_REX, Guest_20e4f, Guest_26efd, and detroithatecore. All of you must wake up and smell the Folgers and stop acting like whiny, oppressed, racially inferior infants.
Why is black crime relevant to you?
1-Do you feel blacks are dragging down america? Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think america is still the strongest country in the world.
2-Are you being repeatedly victimized by blacks? i doubt it, otherwise i would have read some personal experiences here.
3-You don't like your tax dollars being used to house criminals? Well, boo hoo. Mine are too. I'd rather criminals be housed in prison instead of roaming the street.
4-Is it to satisfy your ego? Most likely.
If the concern is your taxes being used for prisons, why not be pissed about your taxes being used to screw around on Mars? I'd rather get a bigger tax return than look at pretty space probes of Mars.
Let's look at the purpose of this ballot.
This ballot was started about blacks by someone's whose middle name is 'hate.'
The same one that started a ballot asking the question,"Why are most Black's nothing but savage beasts?"
The same one, who, if you look at his first comment of this ballot reveals his mentality.
Is this such a person you are proud to agree with?
I find it sickening that the Untied States releases regular statistics on race and profiles them. Race means nothing. There are so many different types of black people that you can't classify them as one group. There are blacks from Africa, blacks from various caribbean countries, blacks from the United States, you can't classify them like that. 'Black' is not a cultural group.
You are truly an idiot,Guest_3da7c. Juveniles between the ages of 16-19, of ALL races, commit over HALF of the violent crimes in America today. There is no "PC myth" here. The MYTH is the statistic that Detroithatecore is pulling out of thin air- the 58% and the 67%. My statistics come from the Bureau of Justice. I'd like to know where his statistics come from. Simply saying over and over that something is an "indisputable fact" will not make it so.
How can I have a racial inferiority complex, when my race is not inferior?
The Fact is blacks are commiting crimes, as referernce to my above offical statistics from The American Bureau of Justice which anyone can look up anytime.
I am not a racist, I just deal in facts. Which are the black/african american poplulation are commiting crimes, One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 years old, under correctional supervision or control. And your saying jr the reason for this is because your people as a race are still being mistreated in america, by society, the police, santa claus and everyone else. So I bet Colin Powell gets searched, and beat up by cops all the time. Look at the Jews, the have been persecuted for years, the have suffered more as a race than black people, how come they aren't being locked up in record numbers, how come one in three people of jewish decent isn't in correctional supervision? Its Becoming a culture of black people, to become thugs, run in gangs, be a gangster, look at the main influences of black culture, rap thug artists, who glorify, all the bullshit. You haven't had one strong leader since Luther king jr. you need to stop the excuses, and get a clue.
If this is in fact true--people seem bent on making up their own statistics and the Bureau of Justice does not have the word "American" in its title..
One in three is 33.3 percent. That still doesn't gel with the imaginary statistics that detroithatecore listed. 33% is not a vast majority. The facts are that over half of all the violent crimes in america these days are perpetuated by males aged 16-19. In fact,Juvenile crime is rising while Adult crime has been going down since '93 or '94.
"I am not a racist, I just deal in facts."
If you follow statistics based on the color of someone's skin and not their cultural background then yes you are a racist. Your government statistics are racist.
I hate it when people post here as a guest under 1,000 different names, trying to make it seem like there's 10 of them when it's really just one pathetic loser. Anyway...
Highly plausible reasons have already been posted to answer this question. Look at diddle_de's post. You don't think drugs pumped into black neighborhoods lead to crime? That's the reason for the war on drugs. And if you know anything about teens, they're bound to experiment. But you should read the whole post to get the whole rational view.
And look at what Anonymous said about disenfranchisement, education, and culture. All valid reasons that lead to crime.
Guest_4a49f made a good point about environment. When the mafia was formed it was based on crime because italians couldn't get a fair deal. Their environment was impoverished, so they turned to crime for profit. That's why some blacks follow mafia principles, because it is a proven formula.
BigJimMcBob Made a highly valid point about slavery and comparing american blacks with canadian blacks.
The question is,"why do blacks commit so much crime?" you have your answers. "savages, monkeys, and lazy" are not rational answers. They're irrelevant racist comments. If you are saying blacks commit crimes simply because they're black, that makes no sense. You'd be denying basic human psychology; all humans react the way they do in a situation, because some psychological payoff is perceived. It doesn't always have to be rational, as long as it pays off. IE, they're reacting in a situation in which they FEEL oppressed. Oppression has gone from severe to mild over the centuries, but there are still effects. Maybe the oppression did weaken, but it still exists.
Evidently, oppression is flying below your radar because your personal experiences are not from a black culture. You're like a movie watcher, wondering why the girl fell when Jason chased her, while, if it were real, she probably would fall, because rationality does not totally govern human beings. Emotions do as well. Therefore, she was so panic stricken she fell out of fear. An understandable human reaction.
If you're saying there's no reason for them committing crimes, you would be denying the very laws of physics: cause and effect. Because of social, economic, and environmental factors, some blacks have been effected in a way that leads to crime.
You're ignoring every bit of validity of the rational statements in this ballot, Penisaurus_REX .
You and the one who thinks like you that keeps posting as a guest under 5 different names.
Jr, when you say I post under differnt names, it does nothing for the stigma that black people are stupid, and uneducated. I only post under my registered name. stop being a lost prick, and get a clue.
Of Course its the American Beauru of Justice Guest, you can look it up, its free, and its a fact.
Why all the excuses, its drugs being pumped into black communities, have you heard of supply and demand, if there was no demand for the drugs, there would be no supply.
The Point about oppression, and slavery is wrong, other wise, jewish people would have higher numbers in jail than blacks.
The Mafia point is wrong aswell, the first targets of the mafia are italians, who had no-one to protect them. The Mafia has been around for hundreds of years. Its not a way to improve society, that was a stupid thing to say.
jr, all that bullshit you write is just a smoke screen. Look at popular black enterainment, black Roll models, all glorifying the way of life, that puts you in the street, dealing drugs and doing crime. Thats the problem, its becoming part of black culture, to be in a gang, to deal drugs, to do crime, to be socially acceptable to other black men, of that age. The problem is the number of black enterainers and roll models, who portray the thug life, far out way the bill cosby's.
I'm sure you've seen boyz in the hood, and fishbourne gives that speech " why is there a gun shop on every corner?, why cause they want us to kill ourselves". Thats Wrong, if no blacks purchased, guns, drugs. then there would be no demand, and no supply. Stop with the cop out, we had it tough, we've been oppressed, its society, start admitting to the facts....
Once again, you're saying NOTHING has effected blacks to cause them to commit crimes. The only conclusion that could be reached is it is genetic. And that's BS. I know too many intelligent and hardworking black people for it to be genetic.
It is a social thing. It is an evironmental thing.Black people are not born criminals.
And FYI, i did not say Mafia principle improve society. I said"That's why some blacks follow mafia principles, because it is a proven formula."
A formula applied for criminal profit, not the advancement of society.
And let me make this clear, I AM NOT DEFENDING CRIMINALS. I AM GIVING REASONS FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
And also, follow me clearly on this, P_R, I didn't say YOU posted under different names I said, "You and the ONE who thinks like you that keeps posting as a guest under 5 different names."
So, actually, by missing those facts, you sort of made yourself seem a little stupid and uneducated yourself, didn't you pal?
P_R, you've obviously never been in a situation where you needed money to survive, and could not get a job. Maybe some words from this article will help you understand why blacks are sometimes forced outside the law.
Many blacks have been victims in the struggle to find jobs. When faced with unemployment many have turned to crime to supply their family with basic necessities such as food, clothes, and shelter. They become frustrated, depressed, and angry so they turn to crime to make ends meet.
Officer Wise, a twelve year veteran of the Philadelphia Police Department stated his views on the prison system in a recent interview with QWest Newspaper. He felt that "the system(prison) is not getting any better". He said that one of the reasons the system was not getting any better was because there hasn't been any improvement in the unemployment rate. Blacks are still being laid off from jobs. To keep their families together they turn to any options they have, and this sometimes includes crimes.
When crimes are committed the end result is incarceration. As the prisons become more and more populated many issues have to be addressed. Is the prison system working as a deterrent for crime? In these cases no. 60% of the prison population are young blacks who committed crimes by the age of 15 years. When these young adults are incarcerated their chances of obtaining jobs after they are released are reduced even more. They get out of jail and have no where to go, nowhere to live, and nowhere to work so they are again faced with crime as their only solution.
The rehabilitation rate of incarcerated people is low. A solution to this problem may lie in initial intervention and rehabilitation programs for after they are release. An example of this might be job location offices that help ex convicts with locating jobs.
Overpopulated prisons should be a concern for everyone. It is a reflection of what's going on in society. When jobs are scarce and people feel hopeless they can turn to crime. Having programs that help those who have lost their jobs can create alternative methods for them to keep their households together, and to keep away from crime.
I am new here and have been following this exchange and would just like to add a comment or two.
For one thing, PR states facts that it seems many attempt to discredit using the same tired scream of racism and/or excuses concerning historic oppression, slavery, etc ad nauseum.
Anyway, a question that has been raised several times in one form or another and not answered by jr or those who take his same reasoning is this:
No one alive and sentient can seriously dispute the fact that opportunities and even special assistance in education and the job market have not improved for blacks to the point that even other minorities are not justified in feeling resentful. Accepting that premise, then why has the crime rate among blacks risen in tandem?
I mean, if someone wants to point to discrimination being a base reason for a disproportionate share of crime being committed by blacks, then it would seem logical that the pinnacle of such would have occured back when discrimination was at its own pinnacle. Instead, it seems as if the opposite is true.
Could it be that too many excuses are being made by liberals and that young blacks, like is human nature anywhere, will take full advantage of those excuses and as someone else noted, come to believe them?
The hip-hop culture sure doesn't help either.
Jr are you saying you didn't write this
You and the one who thinks like you that keeps posting as a guest under 5 different names. "
and I look stupid, least I know what comments I put up, you lost fuck
Your assuming my arguments are the same as his. You assume I am some racist person, who has an agenda.
Yelling "racist" because one doesn't like the facts no more addresses the problem than making racist comments does.
Every race and ethnic group in the world has at one time faced discrimination and hardships. Jews are a good example. And dont forget that blacks were also slave owners and sellers, both in Africa and the United States.
One cannot forever use that excuse. Or the line about wealth disparity. Black income and opportunities have done nothing but get better over the years, yet the crime rate among young blacks is at epidmemic proportions. There has to be something else the matter here. And I contend that a lot of the blame lies with those liberal types who continually spout the same tired line about oppression.
If I were black I would like to think I'd be insulted by such patronizing. That is, telling me I am not responsible for my own behavior. Fortunately, there are some black conservatives out there who see a very real problem exists and, instead of blaming it all on the white man, or what happened generations ago, know that the key is to stop making excuses and take responsibility for their own plight. Starting with the family unit. The paternal welfare state has at least as much harm to the black family as slavery did.
You made some good points, P_R, and i respect your right to your opinions, even if i don't agree with all of it.
I'm curious about your thoughts on this ballot: Are men becoming feminized? by ploink, ballot 22009.
BLack people just flat out SUCK. Go hide your face BLACK SAMBOS!
approx 70% of black children are born out of wedlock, blacks have the highest percentage of single parents. So thhey already start life with a disadvantage
Stop with your psychobabble anonymous. detroit just wanted to know WHY THE HELL they are so violent.
You would think this poll would have been closed already...
You guys are so racist I just go from poll to poll and it is so damn funny. You sheep fucking,tree humping,dog loving,hairy, hillbilly sons of bitches.
Q. Why do White people go to Flea Markets in Black Neighborhoods?
A. To get their stuff back!