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Ohh yes it is. Why is there no "white history month"? This really offends me to be frank, and what is it trying to achive? It only separates us as a human race even more, and makes the blacks feel as if whites owe them something. Now dont get me wrong here, I'm no racist, but dont you agree this is racist?

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Its certainly counter productive
Another race baiting ballot...
Unecessary and offensive
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"as a matter of fact cakes, let me make it simple for you. go, the second you read this, and provide any evidence that herzog is a racist. now scoot! by " Babs suddenly lost his voice.

entered by : herzog
Submitted on : Feb 26,2007 6:55:07 pm

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Voted : Its certainly counter productive
Personally I find black history quite interesting, i.e. Apartheid and the black civil rights movement in America etc.

I think black history should be in the school curriculum, but I donít agree with a black history month, as I do think it is counter productive to integration.



Small round hard stones click
under my heels,
seeding grasses thrust
bearded seeds
into trouser cuffs, cans,
trodden on, crunch
in tall, purple-flowering,
amiable weeds.
District Six.
No board says it is:
but my feet know,
and my hands,
and the skin about my bones,
and the soft labouring of my lungs,
and the hot, white, inwards turning
anger of my eyes.
Brash with glass,
name flaring like a flag,
it squats
in the grass and weeds,
incipient Port Jackson trees:
new, up-market, haute cuisine,
guard at the gatepost,
whites only inn.
No sign says it is:
but we know where we belong.
I press my nose
to the clear panes, know,
before I see them, there will be
crushed ice white glass,
linen falls,
the single rose.
Down the road,
working man's cafe sells
bunny chows.
Take it with you, eat
it at a plastic table's top,
wipe your fingers on your jeans,
spit a little on the floor:
it's in the bone.
I back from the
glass,
boy again,
leaving small mean O
of small mean mouth.
Hands burn
for a stone, a bomb,
to shiver down the glass.
Nothing's changed.

Tatamkhulu Afrika

I hope this poem comes out alright Ö


I passed my English exams back in school by writing a thesis on that poem.

Cantona, is your first name Eric, are you a Man U fan, and are you French?

Voted : No
It's an attempt at good intentions. It doesn't do any good, in that instead of making anyone more enlightened, all it does is give those people an opportunity to say that black history month is racist.
^Interesting poem.
A wise man who once haunted this post said something to the effect, "Don't Whites own the *other* eleven months already?"
Haha. Well Winston, are you a aristocrat, or do you just like Churchill?

Voted : No
Probably not the best of ideas, but it's not inherently racist, just as an Irish history month or German history month wouldn't be. The concepts and people celebrated during black history month should be celebrated, but not within a month that is dedicated to one race.

That being said, there are many more disturbing examples of racism in America, and black history month definitely shouldn't be a primary target in the fight against racism.

Cool poem, btw.

German and Irish history months are completly diffrent. That it a nationalistic cultural thing, unlike black history month witch is American blacks celebrating being black.
Basically everybody but whitey has a month...so apparently it's everybody vs whitey,hmmm.This celebrate this or that can be traced back to 1965.It was done out of paranoia and done quite deliberately.All the bad guys aren't white,arab and Catholic coincidentally.

I would think that some black folk are just as sick of all this coddling as .. ah,who cares.Frankly I'd rather talk to black people about other things really.

"American blacks celebrating being black."

There anything wrong about that? What national or cultural identity do black people have to celebrate beside their North or South American one? It's not like they can identify with the cultures of the areas of Africa from which their ancestors were taken, 'cause they don't exactly have any way to know what culture to celebrate. How is black people celebrating their blackness any different from Irish people celebrating their Irishness?

But I agree in that emphasizing a black history month is biased. I think the concept, though, isn't biased in and of itself.

BTW, for clarity, when I say "black" in this ballot I mean "descended from slaves taken to America from Africa."

Voted : Another race baiting ballot...
...Your assertion that Black History month only (and I quote) "continues to separate us all as a human race even more and makes the blacks feel as if whites owe them something," is nothing more than the ramblings of a crack addict

You and people like yourself is the reason why the races are still divided...This ballot is nothing more than a race baiting ballot...

"Why is there no white history month?" you say...

There are 11 months left in which to chose from to have your little white history month, you decide...

And NO, I do NOT agree that it is RACIST for there to be a Black History Month, to explain why it is necessary to have a Black History Month to you, would only serve and prove to be a waste of my time Right On!



"There are 11 months left in which to chose from to have your little white history month, you decide..."

March, anyone...

Going, once, going twice, SOLD!!! to the shaved head fella dressed in cmouflage fatigues!!!!
Correction: *Camouflage*
Voted : No
No, I do not agree at all. It is about as racist as these (which I'm sure you didn't know about):
- Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month
- Caribbean-American Heritage Month
- National Hispanic Heritage Month
- German-American Day
- Jewish American Heritage Month
- National American Indian Heritage Month
- Irish-American Heritage Month

or these:
National Ovarian Cancer Awareness Month
National Prostate Cancer Awareness Month
(there are tons more but I won't clutter up the ballot)
Black history month or any of the others is a celebration of a group's heritage and/or opportunity to educate people.

^No I did not know about them.

Interesting...

Voted : Unecessary and offensive
It assumes that black history is still under appreciated by the institutionally "racist" white majority, when in fact the complete opposite is the case.

Black "culture" is celebrated disproportionately when compared with other countries, as a result of the efforts of the weak minded white middle classes in various Western Countries.

Babs

Your completely misguided and unwarranted accusations of racism directed towards Winston, for a perfectly reasonable ballot, shows YOUR racism once again im afraid, regardless of what you will undoubtedely howl to the contrary.

"Black "culture" is celebrated disproportionately when compared with other CULTURES"
If Winston created this ballot, it is a RACIST ballot whether you agree or not DD, and personally, I don't care what you think...You go that son?

Calling me a racist would be like asking you to make a donation to the United Negro College Fund, now run along...

^Not my ballot mate, Its Eric's.
That was meant for doctordraws comment
I know Winston this is not one of your ballots, DD is sucking on that pipe again, afterall, its Friday night...
No probs mate
"afterall, its Friday night..."
Damn it! I was sure it was Saturday night...

Nah, its Friday night for DD, there is a 600lb gorilla in the room with him, and its Black History month, the man can't win for losing...
I hereby designate March as the official white history month for Cantona, and others who think we need that sort of thing.
Why thank you skylab! So then next month I will parade around wanting to be treated diffrent, using my race in almost anything, and of couse just trying to make people bow down to me becuase " I'm a White man!" Ridiculous, Barbs hun, you do come out with some really PC bullshit. Celabrating being Irish and coming from another country is completly different. At the end of the day blacks are AMERICANS, so why celebrate, just becuase they have a diffrent skin colour? It just dosen't make sense.
Why thank you skylab! So then next month I will parade around wanting to be treated diffrent, using my race in almost anything, and of couse just trying to make people bow down to me becuase " I'm a White man!" Ridiculous, Barbs hun, you do come out with some really PC bullshit. Celabrating being Irish and coming from another country is completly different. At the end of the day blacks are AMERICANS, so why celebrate, just becuase they have a diffrent skin colour? It just dosen't make sense.(PS this might show up again, forgot to log in the first time)
And there is no Jews History month and they have done a lot too.
And no, I am not Jewish.

"So then next month I will parade around wanting to be treated diffrent, using my race in almost anything, and of couse just trying to make people bow down to me becuase 'I'm a White man!' "

I've yet to meet a black guy who does this during any time of the year, let alone February. Seems to me you're making more out of black history month that what it really is.

"At the end of the day blacks are AMERICANS, so why celebrate"

At the end of the day, so am I. Does that mean I have no right to celebrate being part Irish-, Norwegian-, American Indian-, and French-American? It doesn't seem right to me to begrudge blacks the right to celebrate their culture when you allow Irish people to.

Voted : Unecessary and offensive
I've asked this before and never recieved a satisfactory answer: how does segregating races and focusing on our differences produce unity?

A white history month would be racist and wrong so why isn't a black history month racist and wrong? And no, whites don't get the 11 other months. When is it that we focus only on white achievements and exclude all other races from being mentioned? Yeah, never, exactly.

Anyone who supports this racist policy has alot of explaining to do.

I asked babs why he/she supports such racist nonsense and in response he/she banned me from her ballots. Don't expect babs to address the issue in any way other than to call everyone on this ballot a racist.


Voted : Unecessary and offensive
It's done to pacifyl Blacks who actually think their race did something to contribute to the success of America.

It just another act of political correctness.

"Nah, its Friday night for DD, there is a 600lb gorilla in the room with him, and its Black History month, the man can't win for losing... "

Did you just equate a 600 pound gorilla and a black person?

^ He did use "gorilla" and "black" in the same sentence.

Sounds like a racist to me. What next babs? Calling people intelligent, articulate and clean? You sicken me with your obvious racism against blacks.



See how different the world would be if we all followed babsian logic?

" - Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month
- Caribbean-American Heritage Month
- National Hispanic Heritage Month
- German-American Day
- Jewish American Heritage Month
- National American Indian Heritage Month
- Irish-American Heritage Month"


Frankly I'm not offended by hyphenated Americanism any more.It was bound to happen and it isn't *that* big a deal to me really.I'm just sick of being told how to think by every institution and media outlet.They all operate in lockstep it seems.You know government is too big when they try replacing mommy and daddy with some cooked up agenda(heritage month is just one of many examples)..control freaks to be sure.
Let's not deny that some groups receive more attention than others.I don't say they don't exist but I've never even heard of Caribbean-American Heritage Month,German-American Day or Irish-American Heritage Month.
It's all going to come undone anyway so perhaps this is all mute.

Perhaps in honor of black history month B&W should only allow users who can prove their black heritage to post ballots so we can celebrate their uniqueness without the clutter of other, non-black, input.

They used to be slaves, so if you argue against this you are essentially saying you hate blacks and wish they were all slaves again.

Oh but there I go, expecting people to be consistent in their beliefs, even flawed ones.

Well now, here comes a couple of race baiters of the site, Herzog and DD, both as always, bringing their spin on words...How pathetic you two are...I would love to witness just ONE of ya, to spew your racist comments in the faces of those whom you bravely sit behind a monitor and disparage...

Neither of the two possesses the heart nor bring enough physical strength to repeat your Racist garbage. Typical behaviors of Racists, they all run in a pack like RATS, they spew mistruths, all Racists are failurs and/or traveling on the path of failure and blaming others for those failures, all Racists possesses a sence of inadequacy on all levels, all Racists spend a great deal of time of searching for ways of degrading, belittling, and distorting truths about others, plainly the Racist hate for no logical reasons and of course, the Racists sets out to attack those who dare object to their hatred and demeaning of others...

Well now, you two should and others who think and believe like you two are nothing more than boils on the arse of mankind who would get what you deserved if you ever, and I mean ever, grow a couple of you know whats and repeat your RACIST trash in the not just the faces, just ONE of the face of those whom you disparage on this site ever chance you get...

Now, take my statement(s) out of context as you see fit, however, I know just what you all are, weak links (emotionally, spiritually, physically and morally) HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH ALL!!!

^lol!
I KNEW Babs couldnt hide his insanity for long!
Babs; what does it tell you that you are entirely unable to back up your claims of racism? What do you think it means that whenever you are asked for proof you resort to even more strident screams of racism, but never offer any proof?

To a sane person it would mean that your claims are baseless. To you it no doubt means everyone is a racist and there is a conspiracy against you.

So babs, I'll again ask you because I enjoy seeing you squirm and exposing you as the liar you are, where is the proof behind your claims?

Also, how do you defend your rampant homophobia and bigoted comments against all homosexuals? Are only black civil rights worthy defense, whereas homosexuals are not really people?

I think babs and other such users pick a random minority group to vehemently defend, blacks in this case, so they can feel free to be as rampantly bigoted against other groups as they like.

So they can use words like butt boy to refer to homosexuals, or describe jews as hooknosed, and still not feel like bigots.

It's sick but I really think that's how babs' mind works.

barbara. i defy you to right now, list evey single racist comment you accuse dd and herzog of making.

do it now, or lose what credibility you have left. after all, you're the user who said to me that since i am a herzog supporter, you will make homophobic statements and ignore those other who do as well. translation = since you like herzog, i will abandon my supposed morality and will be discriminatory against you and gay people in general. oh yeah -- that's a real logical statement to make.

so, we demand that you right now list every single racist statement you accuse doc and herzog of making. get to it boy! (yeah, you like that word apparently.)

I think babs and other such users pick a random minority group to vehemently defend, blacks in this case, so they can feel free to be as rampantly bigoted against other groups as they like.

So they can use words like butt boy to refer to homosexuals, or describe jews as hooknosed, and still not feel like bigots.

It's sick but I really think that's how babs' mind works.
by herzog on Sun Feb 25, 07 3:50pm


^^ exactly!! right on the head.

as a matter of fact cakes, let me make it simple for you. go, the second you read this, and provide any evidence that herzog is a racist. now scoot!
"as a matter of fact cakes, let me make it simple for you. go, the second you read this, and provide any evidence that herzog is a racist. now scoot!
by "

Babs suddenly lost his voice.

Hell no it isn't. do you want to know why? Evey month besides February all we learn about in school is about White People. I'm sick of you White Muthafuckas trying to call Black History Month is Racist. Well i would call it racist too if every other month was about all the great accomplishments of my people
there is a black history month because all year long we learn about white people so its not racist the white history months are
I'm always amazed at how persecuted robotthinker seems to think he is. EVERYONE is telling him how to think. He conveniently forgets that the only acceptable society for him is one in which everyone assimilates to his chosen model (white, anglo-saxon, Christian, etc

"I'm not sure they exist" states in referring to the days I mentioned. If you actually bothered to research, you would fine these listed on such "unknown" sites at the white house web site and others.

Why do the Black get a whole month when not other race does? It's discrimatory.
Voted : Unecessary and offensive
Having a white history month would be a bit arbitrary! Black history month is far from being racist. How so, when it is only emphasizing the accomplishments of black people. We are only acknowledging them because as a minority we go unnoticed. This is not the first time ive heard someone ask this..and Its getting redundant. GET OVER IT! Bet and black history month are not going anywhere
I am not sure I remembered much about White History that much anyway.





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