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Israel has been attacked by its Arab neighbors on four separate occasions and wiped the floor with them all four times. After the first attacks, Israel gave back the land it rightfully won. After the third attack they said the hell with it and justifiably kept it. I disagree with you Bostonian, they have their own money, why don't they use it? Because they're so cheap is why. If the US asked or demanded a penny from them, they'd cry anti-semetism. Call them 'Islamo-Facists' or not but I dont think the 1.6 trillion dollars has anything to do with Islam.
by One_Dollar
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The Palestinians don't want peace. They want the Jews and the state of Israel to go away or die. "They want the Jews and the state of Israel to go away or die." No, they want Israel to get out of Gaza.
by One_Dollar
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I think they should pay their own way (Israel). What business is it of the U.S. Government if both continue to kill one another? This battle between the two combatants been going on since the beginning of time and neither is giving an inch...Why is it when Israel attacks, it is considered self defense and when a muslim do the same, it is considered an act of terrorism? Both are Terrorist as far as I am concerned. If you are engaging in bombings, and the killing of another human being, you are a terrorist...Why are the American taxpayers financing this endless war? Both sides are wrong, not one, both... I would have to say I agree with BBC. They are both terrorist countries because they both engage in bombing each other and I definately think that we shouldn't give them a single penny no matter what its for. Keep in mind Israel has violated 70 UN violations in a 20 year period.
by One_Dollar
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If apartheid was wrong for South Africa, it's wrong for Israel. Time to end the double standard. I'm tired of our tax dollars paying for the Likud Nazis and their agenda. And demand a more competent and less criminal leader for the PA. Arafat, like Sharon, has to go. And you wanna talk about 'Islamo-fascism'? How 'bout we quit doing business with the worst of these types - Saudi Arabia. They make Iran look like the Netherlands. Israel paid after the 1973 war, for everything it used, so it can't be trillion dollars. US gives Israel annual aid of 3 billion dollars which can be spent only by purchasing US made weapons and military equipment (as with the aid to Egypt , Jordan don't get regular annual aid), and occasionally single extra aid packages. To clarrify what occasionally is, the last one was in early 2003 - 1 billion dollars, and the one before was during the first gulf war. The aid started in the late 1960's - the earliest, so it can't be over 100 billion total. The aid to Egypt began in 1979, so it can't be much above 50 billion dollars. Israel is very stable in returning all its foreign and internal debts, so the loan guarentees aren't a factor, the oil embargo isn't Israel's fault, you should direct it to the actual countries who were responsible to it, and 20 years later, the US spent, according to your data, 40 billion dollars to defend those who already caused it 400 billion dollars loss by the oil embargo necessities. Oh, yes. The Israelis are 'forced' to support the American military-industrial complex. I guess that makes everything OK. Nice try, Yosi. $1.68 trillion? Chicken feed. I spent more than that at the weekend.
by cretin_slap
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The American military industrial complex would be in more critical condition than it is today, if it didn't get the annual 5 billion dollars (Israel's and Egypt's) indirect aid. It's not exactly money that goes to the trash, and in many ways, it's better than directly aiding the weapons manufacturers. Oh my God! I agree with BBC!
by johan_moritz
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That's so true, yosi. And God knows that the American Military Industrial Complex needs all the help it can get, the poor dears.
by cretin_slap
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Johan, there is a common misconception that America finances Israel's war on terrorism. But again, the American aid can be used only to purchase American made military equipment, so the actual operations and logistics of the operations are financed by Israel. About the Helicopters and airplanes, which are rarely used (mainly in targeted killings), it (the helicopters, some of the ammo...) is bought using American aid, but this is not a serious part of the aid. Israel could purchase or even manufacture the equipment on its own. Besides that, Israel could use much cheaper and less precise weapons against the Palestinians, like artillery shelling instead of targeted killing.The US aid's purpose is mainly to deter Arab COUNTRIES future possible attacks, by ensuring Israel technological and even numerical (in some areas) advantage. An example for that, is the latest arms purchase deal, the largest in Israel's history, that meant to finally replace the old generation jet fighters from the 1970's, with the latest developments. 4.3 billion dollars worth 102 F-16I jets untill 2009. Those weapons will not be directed at Palestinians, but will serve as deterance against Syria, and possibly Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Throughout the Intifada, I can recall only 2 or 3 occasions in which jet fighters The roots of the aid are the Soviet aid to the same Arab countries, and it was demonstrated in the middle east over and over, that a much smaller, but western based army eventually beats the much larger Soviet based army. thats insane to give that kind of aid when your country is running such a deficit. We only give them about $5 billion per year but that's still too much. The figures are the total costs since the adoption of the state of Israel.
by CouchGnome
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I hope we at least remembered to get a receipt this time. Oy! All that money and I still can't get a decent bagel.
by _Beelzebubba
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Thc, it's 3 billion dollars. Another 2 is for Egypt, and from some reason this aid was included in Israel's 'bill'. That's still too much. I don't want to give Egypt money either. In fact, I'd prefer to give money to Israel over Egypt but ideally we wouldn't waste our resources on foreign aid. '...there is a common misconception that America finances Israel's war on terrorism. But again, the American aid can be used only to purchase American made military equipment, so the actual operations and logistics of the operations are financed by Israel.' Hmm. Can you say shell game? I thought you could. 'About the helicopters and airplanes, which are rarely used (mainly in targeted killings)...' Can you say state-sponsored assassination? I thought you could. '...it (the helicopters, some of the ammo) is bought using American aid, but this is not a serious part of the aid.' Why not ask all the parents of dead Palestinian children how 'serious' it is. Yosi, your callousness here is absolutely appalling. 'Israel could purchase or even manufacture the equipment on its own.' So, why doesn't 'Israel' do exactly this? Because it is a society of freeloaders, that's why. Your country is plainly a parasite on its host nation - the United States, and you just admitted it. 'Besides that, Israel could use much cheaper and less precise weapons against the Palestinians, like artillery shelling instead of targeted killing.' Your semantics cannot change the fact that it is state-sponsored assassination. And yet it is so often repeated blindly that only the Israelis want peace, while the Palestinians do not. Well, just what kind of 'peace' do the Israelis want? They want the kind of 'peace' that exists in the absence of all opposition to their agenda. Good i'm glad!Money well spent blowing islamo murdering scum to Hell! islam_hater " Can you say state-sponsored assassination? I thought you could. " It's a war. Military and even political leaders of the other side are legitimate targets. If Israel could arrest them it would do so, but unfortunately it'll involve large scale invasion to Gaza, like we did in the WB in 2002, causing many civilian casualities, more than those who would have been killed by targeted killings of the murderers. " Why not ask all the parents of dead Palestinian children how 'serious' it is. Yosi, your callousness here is absolutely appalling. " If we used the weapons we purchase with the aid money against the Palestinians, I would had many more parents to ask. " So, why doesn't 'Israel' do exactly this? Because it is a society of freeloaders, that's why. Your country is plainly a parasite on its host nation - the United States, and you just admitted it. " If the Palestinians were our only problem, we wouldn't need the US aid. IDF's budget is about 7 billion dollars a year. You can buy plenty of helicopters with that too. The money is used to deter possible enemies, like hostile Arab and Muslim nations. " Your semantics cannot change the fact that it is state-sponsored assassination. And yet it is so often repeated blindly that only the Israelis want peace, while the Palestinians do not. Well, just what kind of 'peace' do the Israelis want? They want the kind of 'peace' that exists in the absence of all opposition to their agenda. " Israel wants the kind of peace, in which buses won't explode in its territory, and neither do rockets etc. I'll settle for that kind of peace, even if the only reason for the silence is that the other side is too afraid to do those acts, because of the Israeli response, and by the direct threat of his life. Meanwhile a war is going on, it's not a promo of peace, we're not trying to gain points in the Palestinians' eyes, we're trying to win the war, so that the peace agreement will be peaqce agreement, not surrender dictat of some sort. Terrorism does bring Israel one good thing, yosi. The opportunity to violently subjugate the ordinary Palestinians who just want to live in peace.
by cretin_slap
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Yeah, that's exactly what every jewish mother wants her child to do when he is 18 Cretin. Oh so Ariel "Butcher" Sharon wasn't voted into power?
by cretin_slap
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Sharon is nothing more than an evil fat pig...just my opinion folks, please don't take it personally...He is no better than anyone else...He orders the deaths of Palestinians just as the Palestinians orders the death of Jews...However, Sharon expects others to jump (especially the U.S.) and ask how high in the process...Enough is enough already... Cretin, neither do the mothers want to see their sons get killed in busses and cafes. BBC, Sharon orders the IDF to act against those who are responsible for terror, so they won't be able, or won't want to repeat their actions. The terrorists use the Palestinian innocent population as shield, that causes the international community to pressure Israel to let the terrorists go on with their actions unopposed and undisturbed. Do you really believe that if the terrorist would come out of the local population, and fight the IDF there, the IDF would still enter Palestinian towns and kill innocents by mistake? Every innocent Palestinian killed serves the terrorists, as it increases the international pressure on Israel to stop. Israel can only lose from killing innocent Palestinians, but it'll lose much more if it'll surrender to terror, or won't act against it, allowing it to gain power, untill eventually, the regular military advantage of Israel won't matter. Israeli troops shot schoolgirl 20 times October 05 2004 at 02:47PM Rafah, Gaza Strip - Israeli soldiers shot dead a 13-year-old Palestinian schoolgirl in the southern Gaza Strip on Tuesday after she approached an army watchtower in a tense border zone, witnesses said. "She was peppered with bullets, in the head, chest, legs"
by CouchGnome
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Dubai, Oct. 5 (NNN): At least nine Palestinians were killed in the Gaza Strip as Israeli operations continued for the seventh day. About eight Palestinians were killed on Sunday, including a deaf man and a 13-year-old boy.
by CouchGnome
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Tue, Oct. 05, 2004 GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - (AP) At least 65 Palestinians have been killed in the five-day offensive, making it the deadliest Israeli incursion into Gaza in more than four years of fighting. Seven people died in Monday's violence including a 14-year-old girl who residents said was shot as she baked bread with her mother in their garden.
by CouchGnome
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Tue, Oct. 05, 2004 GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - (AP) In southern Gaza, Palestinian residents said a 4-year-old boy was killed by tank fire as he stood in the doorway of his house near the town of Khan Younis. The Israeli military said there were no shootings in the area. The United States, European Union and a number of European countries have urged restraint by Israel and raised concerns about civilian casualties.
by CouchGnome
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There are two sides to a story, Sharon will get what is due to him to receive, just like those Palestinians who murder innocent Jews...Sharon has ordered or looked the other way the murders of innocent Palestinians and it is not right...Both sides are equally responsible for the killings of innocent people and the hatred that continues to exist between the two groups...Again, just my opinion :O) Tuesday 05 October 2004, 17:29 Makka Time, 14:29 GMT As many as 80 Palestinians, more than half of them children and non-combatants, have been killed in one of the most ferocious Israeli army campaigns since the outbreak of the current Palestinian uprising four years ago. On Monday, B'tselem reported that as many as 31 Palestinian civilians, including 19 children, have been killed by the Israeli army since the onset of the army campaign in northern Gaza.
by CouchGnome
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CouchGnome, israelis are doing this because they are defending themselves, it is self defense... RIGHT YOSI??? killing about 80 palestinians and about half of them children is self defence. They didn't mean to kill those children...if was a mistake and an accident? RIGHT YOSI? accidents occur in all wars. RIGHT YOSI? I say sorry to the people who have common sense because i called it a war...i don't call it a war because people who have common sense would not call this a war since there is no match in power but YOSI does, that's why i called it a war. Sorry again. war crimes i tell you By launching the rockets from within the civilian population. They didn't mean to kill those children, accidents do occur in every war. Israel didn't initiate this war. War isn't exclusively armed confrontation between equal forces - What about the Vietnam war? Gulf war? War on terror? Yes, and I'm sure according to Yosi the 7 year old who was shot 20 times wasnt the target. According to Yosi the Israeli army teaches dicipline, you just tell that to the Palestinian who had a choice of drinking urine or having his arms broken off. You can only imagine the outrage if a Palestinian did that to a jew. Yosi, please put things out in your version of an outline, the cut and paste is a real waste of disk space.
by One_Dollar
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The 13 years old who was shot 20 times, was a case of mistaken identity, but this is exactly one of those cases in which soldiers are sent to prison. Same goes for the Palestinian who was given a choice of drinking urine or breaking his legs. A Palestinian who would do the same to a jew, will be considered a hero in the Palestinian street, and he won't get to any prison, unless Israel catches him. If I were you, I wouldn't present it as something so unthinkable, you can ask any Israeli who has been captured by Arabs, what he has gone through. There it's not just isolated cases, but state and society supported thing. When two Israeli reservists got lost and ended up in Ramallah, they were bitten to death, by angry mob - INSIDE A PALESTINIAN POLICE STATION. This is my version of everything I say, and the only times I did cut and pasted, was to quote myself, or other users here. yosi, there is one thing that i don't like about you and that is that you lie a lot....you expect me to believe that those soldiers are going to jail? If this were the policy of israel, then sharon should be tried for war crimes from the 1980's and he, the prime minister of israel who you people chose, should be in jail right now. Sharon gives the green light for these kinds of actions. Read this quote in which Sharon has said in an interview "Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care. And I don't mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal What you lot don't understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it. "You can call me anything you like. Call me a monster or a murderer. Better a live Judeo-Nazi than a dead saint."Oz, Amos The Daily Davar, Dec. 17 1982. What do you expect out of a person like that? and again and again yosi will say sharon and israel want peace 20 bullets in a little girl walking a bag and books in her hand...that's a mistake and an accident...right yosi? Yes lolo, the 13 year old had a nuclear bomb in her pocket so the Israelis thought she'd blow their precious wall up. This is the original report BTW... (http://ww w.aljazeera .com/cgi-bin/new s_service/middle _east_full_s tory.asp?ser vice_id=5118) Remove the spaces.
by One_Dollar
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'It's a war. Military and even political leaders of the other side are legitimate targets. If Israel could arrest them it would do so, but unfortunately it will involve a large scale invasion of Gaza, like we did in the West Bank in 2002, causing many civilian casualities, more than those who would have been killed by targeted killings of the murderers.' The 'other side.' There's that kabbalistic lingo again. So, it's more along the lines of a 'surgical strike,' is it then? Do the Palestinians have legitimate military leaders? Name for me one Palestinian general officer, if you can, please. For that matter, where are all the Palestinian troops stationed? Where are THEIR tanks, THEIR aircraft, THEIR gunships? This 'war' of yours is clearly a one-sided affair. The definition of the word 'intifada' is not 'war.' From the Palestinian vantage point, it actually falls far short of a war. The word 'intifada' means 'insurrection, rebellion, revolt, rising, uprising.' If it is a war, shall we conclude that the inmates of Sobibor, as well as the Jewish participants of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, were also legitimate targets of a 'war?' If we used the weapons we purchase with the aid money against the Palestinians, I would had many more parents to ask. Oh, okay. So, the situation as it stands right now is just the lesser of two evils. Instead of demanding that which is good, we should just accept this 'necessary' evil. That's beautiful, Yosi. Just beautiful. 'If the Palestinians were our only problem, we wouldn't need the US aid. IDF's budget is about 7 billion dollars a year. You can buy plenty of helicopters with that too. The money is used to deter possible enemies, like hostile Arab and Muslim nations.' Why do you think they hate you, Yosi? 'Israel wants the kind of peace in which buses don't explode in its territory, and neither do rockets, etc. I'll settle for that kind of peace, even if the only reason for the silence is that the other side is too afraid to do those acts, because of the Israeli response, and by the direct threat to his life.' You read it here, folks. This is 'peace' in the absence of all opposition. It is not something mutually agreed upon. It relies on only a steady escalation of the status quo. Nothing ever really improves except for Jews, and that's simply all that matters. Moreover, with this type of 'peace,' Jews do not have to change their outlook one iota. They can always claim 'defense' as an excuse for their naked aggression. Yes, this is precisely what is meant by the common Judaic phrase, 'Seek peace and PURSUE it.' 'Meanwhile a war is going on. It's not a promotion of peace.' Peace - a real, honest peace, is the antidote to war. But Jewish culture is very naturally warlike, every bit as warlike as the world STILL perceives German culture to be. 'We're not trying to gain points in the Palestinians' eyes. We're trying to win the war, so that the peace agreement will be a peace agreement, not a surrender dictat of some sort.' But Jews can be as aggressive as they want to be, simply because they are the Jews and they have license in the eyes of the world. 'Yeah, that's exactly what every Jewish mother wants her child to do when he is 18, Cretin.' A perpetual 'War on Terrorism' is of tremendous benefit to Israeli interests, Yosi. It is why many, and with very good reason, view the Israeli connection to the 9-11 drama - from the 'art students' in Florida to the 5 'movers' in New Jersey, as truly ominous. And please don't feign ignorance of it. I know you know, okay? 'Sharon is nothing more than an evil fat pig...' BBC is right. 'Cretin, neither do the mothers want to see their sons get killed in busses and cafes?' Recently, an American Jew sought to bring an actual charred Israeli bus frame to the US for purposes of displaying it in an art exhibit as a 'mini HolocaustTM.' If this doesn't say it all... 'BBC, Sharon orders the IDF to act against those who are responsible for terror, so they won't be able, or won't want to repeat their actions.' Again, this 'peace' in the absence of all opposition. It allows the Israeli agenda to proceed without resistance of any kind from 'Noahides,' i.e., Gentiles, non-Jews. The name 'Noah,' incidentally, means 'rest.' Coincidence? 'The terrorists use the Palestinian innocent population as a shield. That causes the international community to pressure Israel to let the terrorists go on with their actions unopposed and undisturbed.' Yosi still cannot fathom the possibility and potential benefit of Israeli self-inflicted terrorism. 'Do you really believe that if the terrorists would come out of the local population, and fight the IDF there, the IDF would still enter Palestinian towns and kill innocents by mistake?' I do. It's easy to accuse a man of having been a 'terrorist' when he and his family are all dead. 'Every innocent Palestinian killed serves the terrorists, as it increases the international pressure on Israel to stop.' Pressure? What pressure? The US gives does not pressure you, and you laugh at the UN. So, what 'pressure' are you talking about? 'Israel can only lose from killing innocent Palestinians, but it will lose much more if it surrenders to terror, or does not act against it, allowing it to gain power, until eventually, the regular military advantage of Israel won't matter.' Again, Yosi - Where is the Palestinian military threat? Is it as real and dangerous as were Saddam Hussein's 'weapons of mass destruction?' Where are their guns? Why don't they use them, IF they have them? 'The United States, European Union and a number of European countries have urged restraint by Israel and raised concerns about civilian casualties.' Is this the 'international pressure' of which you speak, Yosi - 'Urging of restraint' and 'raising of concerns?' You've got to be kidding. 'War isn't exclusively armed confrontation between equal forces. What about the Vietnam war? The Gulf War? The War on Terror?' Oh, yes, Yosi. That's a fine excuse for war crimes against civilian populations. Now, if only the Nazis in the dock at Nuremberg had thought of this... Kudos to CouchGnome and Lolo for confronting Yosi with a strong dose of reality. 'The 13-year-old who was shot 20 times was a case of mistaken identity. But this is exactly one of those cases in which soldiers are sent to prison. The same goes for the Palestinian who was given a choice of drinking urine or breaking his legs.' Apparently, the Israeli army keeps breaking out of prison... ;) 'If I were you, I wouldn't present it as something so unthinkable. You can ask any Israeli what he has gone through when captured by Arabs.' Arabs, or just Muslim Arabs? 'There, it's not in just isolated cases, but rather it is supported by state and society.' Society, okay. But state? What state? There is no Palestinian state. 'When two Israeli reservists got lost and ended up in Ramallah, they were bitten to death, by an angry mob - INSIDE A PALESTINIAN POLICE STATION.' Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Do you really mean BITTEN to death, or simply BEATEN to death? Because I would think a victim of biting would at least have the wherewithal to FIGHT BACK. I had this same conversation with the long lost Magniv, about a rabbi who was said to have been BITTEN to death by an SS man. Come on, Yosi. Do you really think we goyim are that gullible? Two other palestinian children were killed on thursday in the continuing Israeli aggression in Gaza. Furthermore, another little girl was shot 3 times in the head and killed instantly today (Friday). That's an accident too, right yosi?..or is it a mistake?. joe As you probably already know very well, I am not against any particular group yosi. I believe that any killing of innocent life is wrong. Furthermore, i think that when a palestinian bombs him/her self and kills other innocent people is wrong. But again we have to adress the root of the problem. This is happening for a reason and you know very well what the reason is yosi, its occupation, just in case you didn't know...you can't destroy and steal people's land and expect them to accept that. Now, as a christian, i believe that all sides should live in peace including Jews, Muslims and christians and peace can be done through negotiations and not through the destruction of people's homes and the killing of innocent civilians (That's sharon's policy), that will solve nothing. and i think that if Israel wants peace and really work for it, you will see that most palestinians will turn against any other palestinian groups that don't want peace. Trust me, i know this because i came that part of the world and i know how people are there. joe Don't plead ignorance on Yosi's part, Joe. He reads Ha'Aretz. He knows full well what is going on in Occupied Palestine. And he doesn't care. Yosi, you continuously say that the Israeli army is taught dicipline and tolerance yet these things happen on a daily basis and it questions what you say. My personal opinion they've been everything but tolerant, peaceful, and nice. I think you're lying.
by One_Dollar
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Blow all of the stinking Arabs to HELL! islam_hater Go Israel!!!
by Saddam_Insane
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Islam_Hater acts as if the conflict is a mere game of football. 'Yosi, you continuously say that the Israeli army is taught dicipline and tolerance yet these things happen on a daily basis and it questions what you say.' Excellent point. 'My personal opinion they've been everything but tolerant, peaceful, and nice. I think you're lying.' He is lying, aand it shows as he condescends to all of us 'shmendriks.' 'Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.' 1 John 2:22, 23 Yep, that's Yosi, all right. "12 October 2004 An 11-year-old Palestinian girl in the Gaza Strip has been taken to hospital for emergency surgery after she was struck by Israeli gunfire while sitting at her desk in a United Nations-run school this morning. Noting it is the fourth incident of its kind in two years, and that the Agency has repeatedly asked Israeli authorities to stop firing at schools, UNRWA (UN Relief and Works Agency) Commissioner-General Peter Hansen called for an immediate end to such shootings." "Most recently, 10-year-old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head on 7 September while sitting at her desk in a classroom of another UNRWA-run school in Khan Younis. She never regained consciousness and died on 22 September."-United Nations another accident How can anyone justify such costs to support the terrorist state of Israel?
by CouchGnome
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I'm going to try to be as diplomatic as possible by saying that Israeli policy in Palestine, Gaza, and the West Bank is insane. These things happen everyday, they happen right if front of the eyes of the UN and the so called peacekeeping UN has done everything but keep the place in peace. That's all I have to say and you Yosi are like a lawyer trying to defend a criminal I don't know how you could do that, I personally could never see myself trying to defend the actions of the KKK or Al-Qaeda yet you do it to a group of people who are showing how evil they are and how they show no mercy not even to a 10 year old, you are a pitiful person and may God give you what you deserve. That is probably why Yosi has chosen atheism. He is clearly in a state of denial. Botonion: Israel is only there now because the land was TAKEN away from the Palestinians!! Cut the cord. We'll end up fighting WW3 because of those selfish, manipulative Israeli bastards. Look Yosi, Americans are fed up with Israel. You use the U.S. as your proxy to power, constantly dragging us into your messes and for some reason, we keep allowint it to happe. Here is a quote: Even President Ariel Sharon confirmed this when speaking to Shimon Peres on the Kol Yisrael radio station October 3, 2001:- 'Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that... I want to tell you something very clear. Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.' Yosi, I think Israel has pulled one too many schemes and the people are onto them. Not much longer will America be drawn into these conflicts...NO MATTER HOW POWERFUL THE JEWISH LOBBY THINKS THEY ARE IN THE U.S. If average Americans have a choice, they would not want their government to support Israel, but the US goverment is controlled by the Zionists in almost every aspect: The Federal Reserve, stock market, legal system, war department (defense or offense department?), media, education system, etc. We have been forced to finance Israel. Is there anyway we can stop this parasite from bleeding us dry? If we got rid of the Jews do you think we could get cheap gas? If the answer is yes then I support putting them on a spaceship. If the answer is no then I don't care. A massive scandal. I'M NOT ANTI-SEMETIC but it's astounding that a third world war could easily result over (don't anyone kid themselves) Americas lavish support of Israel. That such a small, insignificant, economic basket case like Israel could wield so much power should make any thoughtful person stop and think. Don't kid yourself, we're having so much trouble with the arabs now because our (what appears to be) unquestioning support of Israel. Israel would not exist without it's American Protector. I'm not saying Israel shouldn't exist, but let's get a grip.
by exarmydude
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i laught my ass off. lol hmmmmmmmmm...makes me wonder if yosi still thinks that this is a war...yosi is speechless The cost of Bagels and Matzo soup is going up..
by nickwarhead
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Frankly, I wish the US would stop giving all foreign aid or at least pause until our deficit is taken care of. And when we do resume giving foreign aid, be very selective. How are these countries utilizing the money or aid? How is the standard of living in these recipient countries? Is it being allocated to the whole population? Or is it going into the Swiss bank accounts of the few bastards that are ruling the country? (example: UN aid to Arafat) When we give aid to Israel, must we also give to Egypt? Was all that amount to Indonesia necessary? Aid should only be given if it is to our best interest. Not for appeasement, not to win hearts, not to pacify - who are we kidding? Where's the appreciation? None. I say NO aid to ingrate countries! america has a moral duty to protect and aid Isreal bacause america is a christian nation and that means supporting Isreal. "They want the Jews and the state of Israel to go away or die." No, they want Israel to get out of Gaza. by One_Dollar on Oct 03, 2004 8:22pm ------------------------ haahahahahhahaha LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.... abu fukin mazen(the prime minister of palastinian authorties: " the gaza avacuation is the first step for an palastinian state with jerusalem as it's capital. dude..... youre an idiot man, or you dont know enough... dont you know who we (israelians) are dealing with? with savages, with fukin animals who call themselves palastinian because no arab country wants them back. hey.. we jews were there long before the fukin arabs came here. where do you think jews can go? we were slaughtered when we tried to fit into your society, although we were peacefull and contrabuing to science abd art and alot of other stuff. what you all as un-Israelis think jews can go? ah?! the fukin palastinians should be happy that they now have gaza and now they can take their 30 children family and live happily ever after in the dirt and that's their fault because they didn't agreee woth the UN decision in 1947 and now they gonna pay for the rest of their life unless they want peace, and they should leave the guns down and aggociate. *sorry for my english* another thing you all must understand: you are not in a war, even i israel the war is not that knowable. actually israel is quite peacefull in the last year. 1 thing you need to know: Israel have survived not because of america, thats what you americans think- your are cotrolling the earth. its wrong , and you should not intefeer with our wars because it has nothing to do with you. I guess some of you are arab parasites who live outside of the middle east... on the 1 hand you say " oh poor palastinian baby... oh poor innocent palastians... bla bla bla... and on the other hand you call zionists evil and say "The cost of Bagels and Matzo soup is going up.." thats ugly and you dont know jews enough because most of us aren't religious and we dont like war at all but as i said we dont have no where to go. it is fighting palastinians or fighting some of you idiots when youll kill us in europe and other countries like nazis did in WW2... so you should be happy you have Israel because now you have less jews on your land. isnt that just great??!! I am not forced, I give because I want to...
by Dragonman657
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