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And from all the people I've spoken with in Stoystown, PA, they say flight 93 was shot down.
by _Beelzebubba
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Belz how would the average person on the ground know that? Also the wall that was put up between agencies wasn't put up by the president that was in office at the time so it would have to have been a conspiracy between both Bush & Clinton (not to mention all their people) I can't beleive you believe that.? Also if the flight was shot down how do they explain all the last minute phone calls the passengers made to say good by to family? There's nothing wrong with asking questions. I think people go too far and believe everything they read on 'conspiracy websites', but there are some grey areas, and they need to be addressed. I personally believe the mainstream interpretation of events, but there are two areas that vex me. 1, The removal of several frames of footage from the Pentagon carpark camera. 2, Silvertein bringing down WTC7 within hours of the twin tower collapsing. If you mother had been killed and the police approached you with footage of the murder, with the frames in which she was killed missing - would you not ask questions? I know it was fake, it was filmed on the same hollywood lot as the fake moon landing, the fake halocaust, most of the footage that went missing is beacuse saskwatches destroyed the film and put the ashes under the grassy knowl in Dallas, my biggest concern is why Elvis hasnt been brought in for questioning? Saskwatches know their way around cameras? Your shittin' me!??? Do they demolish buildings in their spare time? Perhaps they do not take their medication, because they have no health plan and so cannot afford it...
by Steelhamster
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Also if the flight was shot down how do they explain all the last minute phone calls the passengers made to say good by to family? by everygirl on Sep 09, 2005 11:27am Like calls where somebody rings up and introduces themselves to their OWN mother by their FULL NAME??? Or how about calls from flight attendants that say they're sitting at a seat number that DOES NOT EXIST ON THAT FLIGHT??? Or calls to total strangers, who could not have identified them anyway??? Bush thanked God on 9/11, that's all I know for sure, I doubt he caused it but it Made him. The Betty Ong call is a strange one. It seems whoever the woman was that was trying convince the operator that she was on a hijacked plane wasn't coached too well. She kept flubbing the script; MALE VOICE: Which flight are you on? BETTY ONG: Flight 12. (a bit later, she's on a seat that doesn't exist) FEMALE VOICE: Okay, but what seat are you sitting in? What’s the number of your seat? BETTY ONG: Okay, I’m in my jump seat right now. FEMALE VOICE: Okay. BETTY ONG: At 3R. (There was no seat 3R on that plane. I checked to confirm this too) Look at the time scale: The phone call begun "minutes after 8 am", lasted nearly 40 minutes and ended at 8:46; so we can conclude Betty rung up at about 8:08-8:10. This was BEFORE the hijacking began! (Of course, the story changed later, then they said it was 8:21 when Betty rung up). There are so many intrinsic oddities in the call and contradictions to Amy Sweeney's call that for me it's obvious that both calls were faked and the women doing the masquerading flubbed it by not keeping their story straight. The claimed times of the calls are way too long to be credible anyway, as if real hijackers were just going to sit around and let somebody chatter away for 25 minutes. Not believable. Also why make a phone call to alert of a hijacking? Why weren't the codes used instead. There are several places on the 757s and 767s where there's a keypad for pressing in the hijacking code (4-digits). Any one of the crew (pilots & flight attendants, etc...) could've pressed in that code in any one of several different places, yet we're expected to believe that suddenly the flight attendants and entire crew forgot all about pressing the buttons to alert the FAA of a hijacking. No way! I don't believe it. The 9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report contains an interesting fact. According to the report, 98% of all the people who suffered a loss on 9-11 took the fund money. but... on Flight 93, none are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list. on Flight 11, only 3 are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list. on Flight 77, only 5 are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list. on Flight 175, only 3 are on the 9=11 Compensation Fund list The cellphone calls don't prove the existence of most of these people either. Only 13 calls in total, and considering that only 12 people had relatives to claim some kind of compensation or legal claim (11 on the 9-11 Victims Compensation Fund list, plus Ellen Mariani who decided to sue instead), then the existence of all of the others is suspect. Examining the cellphone and airphone calls it's found that at least some of them, and maybe all of them, are fake. # At 8:21 am American 11 flight attendant, Amy Sweeney, called American Airlines ground manager Michael Woodward and spoke calmly to him for 25 minutes. until the plane crashed. Woodward took notes during the conversation and has yet to testify publicly. (ABC News, 7/18/02). = She's on the phone 25 minutes and the mythical terrorists did nothing at all??? # Caller: "Mom? This is Mark Bingham." = Who the hell calls their own mother and introduces themselves by their full name??? # A person claiming to be Todd Beamer, talked to GTE operator Lisa D. Jefferson “Todd Beamer placed a call on one of the Boeing 757's on-board telephones and spoke for 13 minutes with GTE operator Lisa D. Jefferson, Beamer's wife said.......(The Pittsburg Channel, 1.38pm, September 16, 2001) = Why would Beamer prefer to talk to a stranger than to someone in his own family? He's also on the phone for 13 minutes, and again the mythical terrorists did nothing about it. Notice that his wife, Mrs Lisa Beamer did not receive a telephone call from Todd personally, but was later “told” by an operator that her husband had "allegedly" called. No evidence at all that it really was Todd Beamer making the call. Todd Beamer, btw, is not listed as dead on the SSDI. There are enormous problems with the credibility of the claimed call by Barbara Olson to her husband as well. 0915-0930 AM, (very approximately since there is no record of the calls); Barbara Olson places two calls to her husband (she was his 3rd wife.), US Solicitor General Theodore Olson, supposedly to tell him that Flight 77 (the plane she is claimed to be on) has been hijacked. After the first call, US Solicitor General Theodore Olson notifies the Justice Department. 1) * According to the story, she called her husband on an airphone on a collect call because she didn't have a credit card on her (a nice excuse for avoiding a phone record turning up). But, not only can't an airphone be used without a valid credit card (it has to swiped through the slot), you can't even take the handset off the cradle until the credit card is swiped through...because it's locked to stop it flying around accidentally during any turtbulence. So how did she make the call without lifting the handset? 2) There are no other witnesses to this call taking place. Neither is there any record of the call being made. 3) Barbara Olson is also not listed in the Social Security Death Index as having died. If you knew or suspected your spouse’s aircraft had just fireballed inside the Pentagon building, how would you spend the rest of the day? Most people would be in deep shock, I'm sure. About the last thing on your mind would be to pick up a telephone and call the CNN Atlanta news desk in order to give them a “scoop” - but that's exactly what the US Solcitor General Theodore Olson did. Theodore Olson doesn't seem to worry overmuch about lying either; Addressing the Supreme Court of the United States of America, US Solicitor General Theodore Olson said it is "easy to imagine an infinite number of situations . . . where government officials might quite legitimately have reasons to give false information out." (March 21, 2002, p.A35, the Washington Post article titled “The Limits of Lying” by Jim Hoagland) Only SIX (6) of the names on Flight 93 show up in the Social Security Death Index and NONE are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list. Basically being non-existent persons, they don't have relatives who need to apply for compensation. Todd Beamer is also one of those who according to the Social Security Administration is still alive - or at least not dead yet. Larry King interviewed Lisa Beamer, wife of Todd Beamer on 8/23/02. King: So you feel Todd is somewhere now? Beamer: Absolutely. Todd is still alive. oh boy..... I tell you... It was Elvis, Oprah, Bigfoot and the Lochness Monster flying those planes... AND I CAN PROVE IT. They aren't listed on the passenger list. Nor on the compensation fund or SS death index. They did it, I tell you!!!! Take their medication!? Take their medication!??! Hell, some of these nuts need to be locked up! Larry King interviewed Lisa Beamer, wife of Todd Beamer on 8/23/02. King: So you feel Todd is somewhere now? Beamer: Absolutely. Todd is still alive. by Meteor7 on Sep 09, 2005 1:18pm This is a lie. She never said this. Liar. So Meteor, you and I have hashed this out. So you are going to tell me that Jeremy Glick is still alive? His wife Lyz would love to know that, considering she just remarried a few weeks ago, wrote a book about this, talked about it on TV, etc., etc. And so Jeremy, who had a baby daughter just 3 months before his plane, flight 93, was hijacked, what...staged hiw own death, or never existed?? You're a freak. You're actually mentally ill. Oh and Meteor, you idiot!! Some people did NOT take the fund money because if you did, you SIGNED a release that would permanently prevent you from EVER suing the airlines or the government, etc. Man, and you're supposed to know facts? Are you aware that the surviving family members of the people from Flight 93 DID NOT take fund money because they planned to sue and they currently suing the Saudi government and the bin Laden family? No, in your rush to be insane, you forgot to get these FACTS! Perhaps they do not take their medication, because they have no health plan and so cannot afford it... by Steelhamster on Sep 09, 2005 12:47pm Um, their not American Steel. What?!?! Not American!??! OH MY GOD! The world will end...Steel took a dig at us...but yikes!! The conspiracy theory nuts are Australian, British and Irish!! Lands Sake SteelGerbel! They want attention. If people could just ignore these type of ballots you probably wouldn't see anymore of them. When people relegate them to where they belong. The pages of the Enquirer with pictures of aliens, and elvis sightings.
by inter_regnum
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"You're a freak. You're actually mentally ill." by patch22us on Sep 09, 2005 3:54pm crap,crap,crap,crap. Meteor7 1 - 0 crap22 excellent stuff Meteor7. when the people that faked these phone calls put their work out there they expected everyone to accept it without question. has anyone noticed that the internet liars like patch and her-blog and all the rest have nothing but ridicule in their armoury to try and stop people finding out the truth. read patch's emotive, terrible bullshit then research. find things out for yourself. THE TRUTH WILL OUT.
by scarlet_pin
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i dont believe that the us did perpitrate the attacks however i do believe that the administartion of the us used the grief of a nation to push their own agenda and that the fabricated eveidnce to like the attacks to iraq and to push their own agenda in other areas to (patriots act for example) (patch22us to Meteor7 on Sep 09, 2005 3:57pm) Man, and you're supposed to know facts? Are you aware that the surviving family members of the people from Flight 93 DID NOT take fund money because they planned to sue and they currently suing the Saudi government and the bin Laden family? ...(snip) by patch22us on Sep 09, 2005 3:57pm Which ones? Do you have names? (Coldcircuit posted this on ballot38416) The real Flight 93 never really crashed either it seems. I guess the passenger jet that crashed in it's place and was claimed as being Flight 93 was just another unmanned aircraft like that remote controlled passenger jet used in the NASA-Dryden tests 20 years ago. 9/11/01 11:43:57 AM A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White. White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated. United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did say how many people were aboard the flight. Original source = WCPO on 9/11/01 http: // web.archive.org / web / 20021109040132 / http: // wcpo.com / specials / 2001 / americaattacked / news_local / story14.html Explains a lot about why on Flight 93, that of the 45 people who are on the passenger lists, only 6 are listed in the Social Security Death Index as having died that died that day. Of these 45 people, NONE are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list - so I guess they were ALL ORPHANS WITH NO LIVING RELATIVES, right? by Coldcircuit on May 14, 2005 11:45pm Quite interesting that many of those names on the passenger lists still weren't officially dead according the Social Security Death Index even 4 years later. Yes I believe that a few nut cases caused that catastrophies.
by mybackhurts
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has anyone noticed that the internet liars like patch and her-blog and all the rest have nothing but ridicule in their armoury to try and stop people finding out the truth. read patch's emotive, terrible bullshit then research. find things out for yourself. THE TRUTH WILL OUT. by scarlet_pin on Sep 10, 2005 9:12am well sometimes they do post what they claim to be "facts", but their "facts" aren't true. An example that made me laugh was this; (by ClosetIguana on Aug 02, 2005 3:43pm) Comparing an oven to a building holding up enormous weight is ridiculous. Plus the steel didn't turn to playdoh but it can lose 40% of it's strength at 1100 degrees. Plus some beams they examined had uneven heating causing the steel to bend. Plus not one single person (over the entire excavation period) noticed a single beam "cut" by explosives. The whole theory is ridiculous. by ClosetIguana on Aug 02, 2005 3:43pm Meteor7 then shot down that silly excuse; (by Meteor7 on Aug 10, 2005 9:31am) So are you trying to claim now that the hundreds of thousands of tons of steel in each building was heated to 1100 degrees by only the fuel load of a single plane, fuel which by the way had been burnt-out and exhausted only ten minutes or so later. You do realize that your claim is somewhat akin to saying "Magic Did It" because you're making magical claims about mere jet fuel. You're nuts. Oh, and another thing; the temperatures never reached 1100 degrees. 1) it's physically impossible for jet fuel to burn that hot in those circumstances. 2) the firefighters who reached those floors reported the fires dying down and nearly gone out. Nobody qualified to check those steel beams for damage from explosives was ever allowed to examine them. Instead, all the steel was taken and sent off for recycling before any of the investigators could perform any examinations at all of the steel. The official investigators were rightfully suspicious of this and said so. Many times! by Meteor7 on Aug 10, 2005 9:36am has anyone noticed that the internet liars like patch and her-blog and all the rest have nothing but ridicule in their armoury to try and stop people finding out the truth. read patch's emotive, terrible bullshit then research. find things out for yourself. THE TRUTH WILL OUT. by scarlet_pin on Sep 10, 2005 9:12am LMFAO!! Yes, please do research. Oh, why bother, clearly Cretin_Slap (aka Scarelt_Pin) has ALL the answers. Just go to him! Internet liar huh? Oh, that is rich coming from you. Ha! Oh, Cretin_Slap, you say internet liars, yet here you are masquerading as Scarlet_Pin. Yes, you are very credible indeed. Oh, man thanks for making me laugh -- I haven't laughed all week. You're a funny guy. Which ones? Do you have names? by Tank_Girl on Sep 10, 2005 3:57pm Lyz Glick did not accept the money. She, along with some of the families are suing the Saudi government and the bin Laden family!! Since you guys want to dishonor the memory of the dead to suit your own sick and twisted minds, why not read this book. You tell us after reading it: Is Lyz Glick in on the Bush administration conspiracy? Did Dick Cheney really have Jeremy in the kitchen of the White House that day, eating cake and coffee while Cheney held a gun to Jeremy's head and said "here, read this note to your wife." Or, did Lyz maybe pull this whole thing off because..because...because George W. Bush is really her baby's Daddy and she need to cover that up!! OH MY LORD!! THE TRUTH IS OUT!! Thank you!! Thank you Cretin/Scarlet, thank you Meteor7, thank you Tank Girl!! You have brought the truth to life. You are heros!! --------------- Genre: Biographies & Memoirs Author: Lyz Glick and Dan Zegart Title: Your Father’s Voice: Letters for Emmy about Life with Jeremy—and Without Him After 9/11 So Meteor, you and I have hashed this out. *snip*....by patch22us on Sep 09, 2005 3:54pm You keep bringing up the BS excuses or trying to claim they have some credibility, somebody is always going to be there to argue that you're wrong. Actually, Tank Girl, the reality is, you and Numanx and Meteor7 and Cretin_Slap (aka Scarlet_Pin) can think what you want. I gots swamped with messages telling me to just ignore you guys and these ballots and that is what I'm going to do. You are more than entitled to believe what you want and I am as well. I see no point in hashing this out because I know the truth and you have your truth and you are not going to change my mind and I am not going to change yours. Believe what you want, because I could not care less. And Tank, just a little advice, people have noticed that on every ballot Numanx posts, so do you, Cretin and Meteor7. Also, another user found a comment you posted that is EXACTLY the same as Numanx? Many of us believe that you are just one person! Who cares what we think, right?? Who cares what we think, right?? by patch22us on Sep 11, 2005 6:07pm now you're getting it, crap22
by scarlet_pin
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Dude, we all know you're Cretin_Slap. Could you just sign in as him? Its kind of weird that you keep using your alias when we all know who you are. I know I find it disturbing. why don't you sign in as Total_and_utter_fucking_prick ???
by scarlet_pin
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It all makes sense now! I was arguing with scarlet_slap about evolution a few weeks ago and it was all too easy to beat him down - just like my old friend cretin_pin! Thanks, patch for clearing that up! Sorry Corrupt. It WAS an inside job. YOU'RE WRONG.
by keithsheen
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And Tank, just a little advice, people have noticed that on every ballot Numanx posts, so do you, Cretin and Meteor7. Also, another user found a comment you posted that is EXACTLY the same as Numanx? Many of us believe that you are just one person! Who cares what we think, right?? by patch22us on Sep 11, 2005 6:07pm and all that proves is that I cut & pasted from either the same article as Numanx, or possibly cut & pasted a comment that Numanx made that I thought was equally relevant to the same argument. I've noticed that closetiguana and patch22us copy each other a lot too. patch22us apparently wants to run me out of town for being horrible to him. Kids eh? 9/11 was an inside job; a False Flag operation. Facts and science are on our side. So many of you brits perseverate on the US. There's a conspiracy hiding behind every tree. Good grief you people. How about Elvis is responsible for 9/11. Why don't you come up with conspiracy theories about your own countries. Like the Queen and Prince Charles had Diana murdered, is was not an innocent car accident caused by a drunk drive you know. God the internet brings out all kinds of nuts. all i wanted was answers, not for jerks to create ballots atacking me. Instead of responding to conspiracy theories with anger. Actually read what they ahve to say then respond with reason and logic as to why you find their opinions to be nonsense. From what I have seen personally, conspiracy theorists cannot be reasoned with. I don't know what the problem is,maybe it's just the way their brain is wired. The real facts are out there they just prefer to go to some obscure websites to validate their own beliefs. Maybe it makes life more exciting to think there is something sinister out there rather than there being a logical explanation. The moon landings, elvis, JFK, 911 the list goes on. I have a right to get irritated. NEVER in the ENTIRE HISTORY of steel & concrete tower buildings has it been possible for a building to collapse at near freefall speed into their own footprint without it being a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. If you wish to dispute this, cite a SINGLE EXAMPLE and provide a link to photos or video - you won't find any - BECAUSE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED! Physicists who have examined this subject are starting to call the NIST engineers IDIOTS for even pretending that it's possible, and I can go into detail showing exactly WHY it is impossible with the laws of Physics. You should also be aware, that NIST could not prove it happened without an controlled demolition either. Their simulations repeatedly could not simulate the actual collapse of WTC 1 and 2, with the empirical evidence, and they finally gave up and stopped at "poised for collapse" because the buildings would not collapse in the simulations. Everything after that in their report is just assumption to explain WHAT THEY COULD NOT SIMULATE WITH THE EMPIRICAL DATA! It is also IMPOSSIBLE for cellphones to make phone calls from aircraft flying at 550mph and six miles up, and it's STILL IMPOSSIBLE when flying 550mph only 1000ft up because the cellular antenna network is not designed for this, and the antennas are aimed at the ground, NOT AT THE SKY, nor can they complete the handshake in time before the cellphone is out of range when moving above 450mph! Therefore, those cellphone calls from the planes WERE ALL FAKE!
by Coldcircuit
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In many modern passenger jets since the 1990s, simply typing in the hijack alert code on the keypad of the FMC or on the keypads of any airphone would send the hijack alert aquawk out via ACARS. That's a lot of keypads. That's a lot of places on each plane where the hijack alert code could be sent. And ANY CREW MEMBER could do it, at ANY OF THESE PLACES on each plane! To stop every single member of the crew from pressing in the 4-digit code at any of these keypads would be near impossible. It would require either incapacitating the entire crew of each aircraft INSTANTLY over the ENTIRE PLANE at the same time! It becomes entirely ridiculous when the "Arabs Did It" LUNATICS are claiming that this near-impossibility was achieved not just on one plane, but on ALL FOUR! How did these amazing Arab hijackers do it? Did they use MAGIC and SUPER-POWERS? Conspiracy theorists derive an element of complete lunacy not so much from current events or situations, but due to an uncontrollable need to fixate what they see in the movie theaters into real life events. They cannot differentiate between what is happening in real life and the promotable illusions of which they have projected within the confines of their own minds, the sick and twisted disconnected fantasies of grandeur corruption and ultimate misuse of power, the salivate over every new theory that comes along, however idiotic or implausible it may be. It's really sad, to be honest. get all;n;n;n;door;sell all;out;s;s;s; Since these two shills can't argue with real FACTS, this what they do; Jul 06, 2006 7:38pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#653740 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:36pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1001195 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:35pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1004151 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:33pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1001188 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:32pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#725486 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:31pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1001203 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:30pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1001198 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:24pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1036792 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:22pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1036798 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:19pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the ballot choice #834699 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 7:18pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the ballot choice #861792 @ Bestandworst.com Jul 06, 2006 7:17pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the ballot choice #862059 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 6:05pm Received karma rating of : -5 from patch22us For the Ballot comment#1040074 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 6:04pm Received karma rating of : -5 from patch22us For the Ballot #96964 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 6:03pm Received karma rating of : -5 from patch22us For the Ballot comment#1036781 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 5:59pm Received karma rating of : -5 from patch22us For the Ballot comment#1039681 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 5:51pm Received karma rating of : -5 from patch22us For the Ballot comment#1039686 @ Bestandworst.com Jul 06, 2006 5:48pm Received karma rating of : -5 from patch22us For the Ballot comment#1040055 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 5:48pm Received karma rating of : -5 from patch22us For the Ballot comment#1040056 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 06, 2006 2:32pm Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the ballot choice #861793 @ Bestandworst.com. No one feels bad for you Meteor7. It has nothing to do with facts. For every supposed fact you post, someone can refute it. It has to do with the fact that you are rude and that you hide behind multiple aliases. You're nasty to people who have a different view than you. You can post the neg karma all over the place. LCD can also verify that I hardly ever give out Negative Karma. In fact, virtually never. I gave it to you because we're tired of you being a SHILL and using your other fake names to prop up your argument. 7 times in 15 minutes? Honesty is when you allow the other person to make a comment without flipping out and trying intimidation to shut them up. FiddleFaddleOnLSD however is just a coward. 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by Coldcircuit
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Some more of Fidddle the psycho's work - Jul 07, 2006 7:02am Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1040258 @ Bestandworst.com. Jul 07, 2006 7:02am Received karma rating of : -5 from FiddleFaddleOnLSD For the Ballot comment#1040257 @ Bestandworst.com
by Coldcircuit
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Yes medication would help these people, but these type of people usually never seek help until its too late. By the way, these people promoting the conspiracy garbage don't actually buy into it themselves. Not one iota. They know its all bullcrap. Their purpose for promoting this nonsense is all motivated by their type "A" personalities. They have few or no friends, don't like to socialize with others in person, have low self esteem, and are non-productive. Because of this they hide behind their computers at home and their negative sick minds promote negativity with negative agendas in the hope of annoying others. Why? Because of their low self-esteem they see themselves as defective and imperfect people, so they make themselves feel better by trying to project a defective imperfect world for everyone else. They want everyone else to become depressed like them. They hope to creat chaos, divisions and disunity among (the normal)others. This stems from their chronic depressive state of mind, which prevents them from being rational and seeing reality. However, their negativity only attracts others like them. The sane and rational people only laugh and then sometimes feel sorry for them. I know I do. So they can play their silly games. Nobody sane is listening anyway. They are harmless, though they like believe the opposite is true...because they are naive and gullible to start with...and of course the reality thing I mentioned. They are at best entertainment fodder for the rest of us. They don't realize that everyone is amused at best, and that we are simply laughing at them. They are infact one of the reasons I enjoy this site. Laughing is healthy for all of us. So keep up the entertaining conspiracys people. Your time on earth is running out fast. People with Type "A" personalities don't live long, 50s-60s on average. Unless suicide takes them first, which would be sad indeed. Let them enjoy themselves while they can. Oh, and one other thing. They usually have anger management problems...short fuses. The evidence of this can been seen in their repetative rambling posts, ballots vote spaming and constant issuing of negative karma to those that don't agree with them. So yes, medical help and medication would help their condition. As you can see, Jinn the Kafir is a web propagandist. Watch as in the next ten minutes to an hour, he'll start spamming votes on this ballot and many others. You will notice that any ballot choices which he created will get a big jump in votes as he begins vote rigging in vain.
by Coldcircuit
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Jinn, I couldn't be bothered reading all that rubbish you just posted. I also don't believe in any that "pop psychology" nonsense of yours about A, B, C whatever personalities. It sounds like superstitious garbage and has as much relevance as any other "pop psychology" fad of the past fifty years. They come and go, and they are always rubbish. Perhaps you have some "evidence" to back the Official Conspiracy Lies? I think maybe you don't, otherwise you would've posted something factual instead. "Jinn, I couldn't be bothered reading all that rubbish you just posted." by Tank_Girl on Jul 11, 2006 2:53am Of course you don't Tank Girl. Depressed "Type A" personalities rarely admit to, or accept the truth. They always reject it and attempt to belittle it and lash out at it. Without medication and professional councilling nothing can get in the way of their tunnel-vision agenda. But that's okay, we understand. This is part of the textbook profile of your sickness. "As you can see, Jinn the Kafir is a web propagandist. Watch as in the next ten minutes to an hour, he'll start spamming votes on this ballot and many others. You will notice that any ballot choices which he created will get a big jump in votes as he begins vote rigging in vain." by Coldcircuit on Jul 11, 2006 1:27am Yes Coldcircuit, Your response is also typical of the "Type" personality profile. Those that expose the truth behind your behavior are instant enemies that must be attacked and discredited at all costs, even if it requires creating more wild accusations and "conspiracy" allegations. But again, its okay, because we expect this from people from this sickness. Type A personalities rarely listen to reason and logic. They continually deny the truth and promote lies to advance their cause, which is to a create a depressed world such as their own that they live in. This is the only thing that makes their minds feel better, but this only lasts for short periods. Like a drug addiction, you soon need to delve into your negative agendas again to find that feeling of satisfaction. But, I'm much more concerned with you Coldcircuit. You just may actualy believe your dillusional beliefs, and suffer from and extreme form of Type-A. Psychosis is an advanced form of personality disorder seen in many Type A hospital patients. Yes, we understand, and we care. Please seek help as soon as possible. It will save your life! At least talk to your doctor. Yes Jinn, Your response is completely typical of the "Type-A" personality profile. Those that expose the truth behind your behaviour are instant enemies that must be attacked and discredited at all costs, even if it requires creating more wild accusations and "Arabs Did It conspiracy" allegations. But again, its okay, because we expect this from people from this sickness. Type A personalities rarely listen to reason and logic, just like you don't. They continually deny the TRUTH and promote LIES to advance their cause, which is to a create a depressed world such as their own that they live in. This is the only thing that makes their minds feel better, but this only lasts for short periods. Like a drug addiction, you soon need to delve into your negative agendas again to find that feeling of satisfaction. But, I'm much more concerned with you Jinn. You just may actually believe your delusional beliefs, and suffer from and extreme form of Type-A. Psychosis is an advanced form of personality disorder seen in many Type A hospital patients. Yes, we understand, and we care. Please seek help as soon as possible. It will save your life! At least talk to your doctor as soon as possible
by Coldcircuit
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what's a jinn the kafir? and does he believe his beliefs. i'd hope so, because if you don't believe your beliefs what do ya believe? am i right, people??
by superloser
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and by the way i love the categorising of people into all sorts of types. really spooky. i bet you do really well with the ladies, jinn the kafir.... after the rohypnol's taken effect. "you appear to be a type D female human. please accept this spiked alcoholic beverage. what about those crazy muslims, eh? oh, i've just come."
by superloser
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Yes, its hard to respond to the truth, isn't it Coldcircuit. What's the matter, did the truth hurt you so bad that you couldn't think for yourself? Couldn't find your own words I see. I understand. At least "Superloser" admits they have a problem, even if they had to create a psudenym out of fear to say it. If you have any truth then post it. Not psychological garbage, but REAL FACTS with scientifically based PHYSICS . Give us FORMULA and math, and we'll see how it stands up. Because so far, all the physics that I've studied has shown those buildings at the WTC were brought down by controlled demolitions. Don't argue or bullshit with psychology until you post something relevant to science, and psychology is not a science in my opinion. I also doubt that you have any qualifications to attempt to practice it, so bullshit your way pretending that you know it when you obviously don't.
by Coldcircuit
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Prove with sourced facts that statements are untrue, Jinn, or shut up. NEVER in the ENTIRE HISTORY of steel & concrete tower buildings has it been possible for a building to collapse at near freefall speed into their own footprint without it being a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. If you wish to dispute this, cite a SINGLE EXAMPLE and provide a link to photos or video - you won't find any - BECAUSE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED! Physicists who have examined this subject are starting to call the NIST engineers IDIOTS for even pretending that it's possible, and I can go into detail showing exactly WHY it is impossible with the laws of Physics. You should also be aware, that NIST could not prove it happened without an controlled demolition either. Their simulations repeatedly could not simulate the actual collapse of WTC 1 and 2, with the empirical evidence, and they finally gave up and stopped at "poised for collapse" because the buildings would not collapse in the simulations. Everything after that in their report is just assumption to explain WHAT THEY COULD NOT SIMULATE WITH THE EMPIRICAL DATA! It is also IMPOSSIBLE for cellphones to make phone calls from aircraft flying at 550mph and six miles up, and it's STILL IMPOSSIBLE when flying 550mph only 1000ft up because the cellular antenna network is not designed for this, and the antennas are aimed at the ground, NOT AT THE SKY, nor can they complete the handshake in time before the cellphone is out of range when moving above 450mph! Therefore, those cellphone calls from the planes WERE ALL FAKE!
by Coldcircuit
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Coldcircuit, talk about psychological garbage. You spout it everyday and you have to take on a variety of names to post under, Ken, Blackcat, Tank_girl...like as if we don't know. LOL! You copy and paste the same crap. Its only a theory. Wake up! When are your experts that you copy from going to prove their theory is true or at least come up with something important? Until you can give something that doesn't sound so absurd, silly and laughable, why don't go put in some quality time on someother topic? Jinn, you're full of shyte. Everytime you shills can't find any facts to refute all the evidence, sources, quotes, and links that 9/11 sceptics cite, it seems your first unfounded lie recently is to pretend that there's only one sceptic on the entire site. The fact is, you shills employed by ADL, AIPAC, Israel, and agencies of the USA government are outnumbered and outvoted. There are a lot more of us than that there are you, and many more sceptics who don't even post most of the time but still make their scepticism about the Official 9/11 LIES known.
by Lovelynice
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{Until you can give something that doesn't sound so absurd, silly and laughable... by Jinn_the_Kafir on Tue Aug 22, 06 11:47pm} absurd and laughable is 99.9% of the bullshit Official Lies about 9/11 with their indestructible passports, trillions to one coincidences, outright impossibilities (such as the cellphone calls that were in fact fake), the faked "Osama bin Laden confession video", the lies about Osama bin Laden being alive when his death back on the 16th December 2001 was widely reported in the news, and every video since has proven to be a fake, and every audiotape has also been proven to be a fake. It's all the same lies, from the same LYING source that tried to sell us LIES about WMDs in Iraq. Sorry, but almost nobody but idiots are going to believe the official liars anymore.
by Lovelynice
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