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IS GLOBAL WARMING REAL???


[+] serious ballot by daltamagne
created Mon Aug 07, 06

Obviously, the world is changing. Do you think it is because of global warming or some silly coincidence? Also what is causing it?

yes
no
it's the fat lazy people of the world
it's the greed of the fat lazy people of the world
it's george W.
Duuuuhhhh, how's the smog where your from??


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COMMENTS:
you will think it's real when your summer cooling bill reaches $1000 a month, and you can't step outside for 5 min before getting heat stroke.

wait, that's already happening in some places - if you wait until it happens in your neighborhood, it will be too late.
by LCD on Mon Aug 07, 06 2:14pm [+]

I do believe in global warming actually. And you are right. It has already begun. take a look at LA and all of the other natural disasters as of late.
by daltamagne on Mon Aug 07, 06 2:31pm [+]

Voted : yes
There is certainly a preponderance of evidence suggesting it is real. Ice core samples show the temperature is higher/hotter than it has been for thousands of years.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Aug 07, 06 2:57pm [+]

^BUT, then you must question what made it even hotter thousands of years ago, far before the industrial revolution? Couldnt this just be part of a natural cycle? Just playing devils advocate here really.
by lil_ape on Mon Aug 07, 06 3:38pm [+]

Voted : yes
Oh, it's real, all right, and the deterioration of the ozone layer, virtually all of that caused by Man, is the primary culprit though not necessarily the only one. I fear it will contribute to more heat-related illnesses and deaths in the immediate forseeable future. Though, in an effort to lighten the mood somewhat, isn't it slightly better, at least, than global freezing?
by Copernicustomized on Mon Aug 07, 06 3:42pm [+]

Voted : no
I answered no, but I do think that care of the environment is of huge importance.
by Noblese_Oblige on Mon Aug 07, 06 4:43pm [+]

Probably.

A more interesting question is why?
by herzog on Mon Aug 07, 06 5:30pm [+]

^ of course you aren't allowed to ask why, the answer is always 'evil polluting republicans'. Don't question that, don't bring up stats, it is that and nothing else and if you question it that's because you are bought by big-oil.
by herzog on Mon Aug 07, 06 5:44pm [+]

you know why, herzog. Stop acting ignorant. You're an intelligent young man and yet you cling to these anti-principles. I desperately hope you have a child and start thinking genuinely about the future of this planet.
by keithsheen on Mon Aug 07, 06 6:16pm [+]

Is it possible to repeat that too many times?
It just types itself, doesn't it?
by Jyl on Mon Aug 07, 06 6:18pm [+]

(my comment was for HZ, sorry y'all!!)
by Jyl on Mon Aug 07, 06 6:19pm [+]

Keith, jyl, et al: will you admit that the earth has gone through periods of drastic heating and cooling before that have had nothing to do with mankind?

Will you accept the data provided by NASA concerning global warming currently underway on mars (I think even the most ardent eco-nut won't try to blame that on us, but I've been surprised before).

Will you likewise deny the heating and expansion of the sun that is believed to occur at regular intervals and which probably caused the last few iceages to end.

And will you accept the effect that completely natural factors such as the chemicals released by volcanoes, and plants have had on the atmosphere?

In other words, could you possibly expand your worldview slightly to at least entertain the idea that other factors, which we have no control of, might be in play?


Probably not, it'll be more of the "well you better get with the program and accept my way of thinking and stop brining up these uncomfortable questions, global warming is real and it will kill you and your children if you don't start driving a hybrid and voting democrat".
by herzog on Mon Aug 07, 06 6:27pm [+]

And keith, you believe just about everything involves some sort of conspiracy, but you can't see that perhaps politicians are exaggerating the threat of global warming (even though some have actually admitted it) to gain votes and influence?
by herzog on Mon Aug 07, 06 6:28pm [+]

I believe it is coincidence. The coincidence of humanity's increasing industrialization and the hot period in the earth's natural termperature cycles. But human's are definitely not helping anything.

herzog, I agree with all your facts (the second and third parapgraphs). I have trouble with the fourth paragraph. Can you show me that the number of volcanic eruptions/chemical emmisions has increased significantly in the passed years? You mention plants too. Do you think plants are causing global warming? O.o

You're being just as close-minded as you say keith is being.
by himself809 on Mon Aug 07, 06 8:01pm [+]

himself: plants, when in distress, produce chemicals that contribute to global warming. I did a ballot on this a while ago but I believe it was wiped.

Which means that if it is hot one year the plants in one area produce conditions that could make it hotter the next.

Is this the sole cause of global warming? Doubtful, but it is a proven fact and is certainly worth considering as a contributing effect.

As for volcanos, a single eruption produces more pollution than all of mankind can manage in a year. The point of that was to show that while our contribution may not be beneficial, it is hardly the only thing to consider, nor is it so overwhelming as some would believe.
by herzog on Mon Aug 07, 06 8:15pm [+]

Didn't know that about the plants. I'd be more comfortable with facts, but I'll trust ya :P

And I believed you the first time when you said that volcanic eruptions release substantial amounts of chemicals into the air, but, unless the frequency of eruptions increased, it's something the planet has been dealing with all its life.

I agree with you when you say that human effects are not the only thing to consider, and that it is sometimes overblown, but still, if humanity continues to follow the course its on, our planet will be none the better for it.
by himself809 on Mon Aug 07, 06 11:28pm [+]

From what i heard global warming is being cause by polution. Polution has slowly opened up the ozone layer letting extra sun rays into the earth. These sunrays started from the outside in melting the ice.
by US_MarineCorp69 on Tue Aug 08, 06 7:52pm [+]

Well, the problem, USMarine, is that is all speculation with little proof, fueled by a massive media frenzy, causing a mass panic among the public.
by jappy on Fri Aug 11, 06 5:18am [+]

Voted : no
The question isn't whether global warming exists and/or whether it effects the Earth's weather/climate.

The real question should be: If global warming is occurring... are humans causing it?

The answer to that question is simple. There simply isn't enough information available to determine whether humans are causing global warming.

Accurate weather history only goes back approximately 200 years. The Earth is millions of years old. The Earth has gone through ice ages and subsequently warmed, and there were no humans causing the global warming then. The data isn't there.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Aug 14, 06 7:07am [+]






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