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It's not a feeling:
- you ARE talking shit.
UK Gov't. has far better things to do that conduct nightime raids in residential areas
and screw up multiple airports.
You think they're doing this FOR FUN or PROPAGANDA?
Puhleaze.
To be fair, if the US government can be suspected of orchestrating the 9/11 attacks, the British government can certainly be accused of this.
Ok so there gonna go threw loosing money in airlines over this? They already said on the news to be careful and on alert if your traveling. If they didnt want people scared they would say its perfectly fine and the chances of it happening again are slim to none. Also if that was there plan it obviously would'nt work because people with common sense wouldnt feel safer but only more frightened. People are gonna feel safe that they found the liquid bombs but more scared knowing that the terrorists have new plans to harm us and most likely will continue to use these tactics through those same airlines. These is one of many reasons your not President.
It's not to 'be fair', there was 1001 irregularities with 911. Wait and see if there's any here.
Follow me to the batcave, I've got some tin foil hats somewhere about.
OMG!! THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!!
I like tay tor tots!
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I don’t believe a word of it, the head terrorist of 7/7 was a mi6 agent so who says this one is genuine?
If I ever find evidence binladen really was a CIA asset I’ll be on the 911 conspiracy band wagon again but so far I haven’t found any from credible sites.
by seon on Thu Aug 10, 06 9:40pm
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That is plain absurdity .
Do you honestly think ppl have nothing better to do than make up false global alarms to better theyre face ?
Oh God where is Ken where you need him,he would be able to connect this recent terror plot to Bush and the neo-cons.
Even though the UK is another county? I’m impressed.
by seon on Fri Aug 11, 06 3:49am
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seon, bin ladin did receive training from CIA operatives, along with many other afghanistan freedom fighters, as they were known at that time, who were fighting the Soviet Union invasion into their country.
After they drove the Soviets out, young radicals from Pakistan (I believe, not sure about the country) entered war torn Afghanistan and pretty much took control, they were the Taliban, a group that bin Ladin felt he could relate to.
bin Ladin has known only to fight his entire life, he does not know any other way to live. After pushing the Soviets back out of Afghanistan, he needed a new enemy, Israel and the 'great Satan' that supports them, the United States, became a convenient target for a man without a country who needed someone to continue to fight against.
The UK government has a history of FAKED terror plots. Like the "ricin poisoining plot" where no traces of ricin were found, and the whole thing got blown as a government fabricated hoax - then D-notices were sent out by the UK government to censor all UK newsmedia and UK websites which reported this fact.
Then there was the "Canary Wharf plot" which was cooked up by UK government lobbyists just to push through ID card legislation, and it got blown too.
Also the "Forest Gate nerve gas plot", which again was totally fabricated and got blown.
{bin Ladin has known only to fight his entire life, he does not know any other way to live.
by jappy on Aug 11, 2006 1:54am}
It appears that you still want to pretend that Osama bin Laden is still alive, which he isn't. He's dead.
Red Alert For Staged Government Terror Attack
Terror alert a trial balloon for invasion of Iran, World War III
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 10 2006
Today's red level terror alert in symbiosis with escalation of conflict in the Middle East is the trial balloon for a massive staged false flag terror attack, blamed on Hezbollah or Al-Qaeda, that will light the blue touch paper for World War Three.
Radio host Alex Jones, who predicted a staged attack on the World Trade Center involving the use of Osama bin Laden as a fall guy in July 2001, has now gone on record with a second prediction that a staged government terror attack will occur before the end of October unless a gargantuan effort to prevent it is launched.
Only through a massively increased counter-propaganda effort on behalf of all truth activists can prevent an imminent cataclysmic horror show that will make 9/11 look like a walk in the park.
We have exhaustively documented that criminal elements in control of major western governments have carried out terror attacks and deliberately manufactured fake alerts for political purposes.
In 2002, then White House press secretary Ari Fleischer told the Washington Times that terror alerts were issued "as a result of all the controversy that took place last week," referring to political heat bestowed on President Bush when 9/11 prior knowledge evidence first surfaced.
From this point onwards smoking guns of government complicity in 9/11 became intrinsically linked with fake terror alerts.
In January of 2003 FBI and CIA whistleblowers told Capitol Hill Blue that the White House was scripting phony terror alerts to maintain hysteria, upkeep President Bush’s approval ratings and milk extra defense funding.
The report that five Pakistani men had entered the States via Canada and were planning on carrying out a dirty bomb or biological attack was completely conjured up by the Bush administration’s black propaganda office. New York Harbor was shut down to visibly pump up the fear.
One of the named suspects, Mohammed Asghar, was tracked down to Pakistan by the Associated Press.
He was a fat guy running a jewellers shop and had never even been to America.
World Net Daily commented,
“Other sources within the bureau and the Central Intelligence Agency said the administration is pressuring intelligence agencies to develop "something, anything" to support an array of non-specific terrorism alerts issued by the White House and the Department of Homeland Security…CHB reported that FBI and CIA sources said a recent White House memo listing the war on terrorism as a definitive political advantage and fund-raising tool is just one of many documents discussing how to best utilize the terrorist threat.”
Since those early admissions, every single major terror alert that the US, UK or Canadian government has issued has proven to be completely fraudulent and scripted.
Two months ago this website, in an article entitled 'Nexus Points Emerge For Potential Summer Attack,' predicted that, "Numerous nexus points have emerged that suggest major western governments are preparing for a summer terror attack that will come close to but not match 9/11 in scale and will provide the justification needed for an air strike on Iran before the midterm elections in early November."
Government mouthpieces in the US, UK and Israel are all hyping the inevitability of a Hezbollah nuke attack on a major western or Israeli city, which will provide the perfect justification for Neo-Fascist bloodsuckers to expand the war from Lebanon into Syria and Iran.
Developments today indicate that the governments of the US and the UK are engaging in a process of announcing the prevention of numerous terror plots, in order to prepare the groundwork for a real attack, under protest that they did all they could to defend the people, but that one attack slipped through.
Arrests in the US, the UK and Canada of supposed terror cells that in each case turn out to be low grade morons, victims of government entrapment, or outright fabricated evidence, are part of this conditioning process.
We have provided links to all our investigations of these staged terror alerts and more at the end of this article.
Watershed leaps in the public profile of the 9/11 truth movement directly correlate to the staging of scripted terror alerts. Each time a new national poll is released showing more people questioning the official story of 9/11, a terror alert or a high profile terror arrest is announced. Last time around it was the arrest of Al-Zarqawi - now it's a re-hash of Operation Bojinka - a plot masterminded by admitted US government agent Ramzi Youssef.
The ramifications for the freedoms of all westerners and the very lives of thousands of Iranians and Syrians, as well as US troops, are too grave to even contemplate.
We must be more vigilant that ever before in an more vocal in our efforts to educate the world about who benefits from terror and where the weight of evidence points towards.
LIQUID TERROR: Training People To Act Like Subservient Slaves
Terrorists planned to mix liquids so why are they all being poured into airport bins?
Steve Watson / Infowars.net | August 11 2006
The latest terror plot facade is nothing more than an exercise to assess how subservient the general population has become and a primer to making permanent the panicked and ridiculous freedom crushing security measures we are seeing being rushed into implementation at the moment.
Whilst the government is saying there is no going back on these measures and that they will become permanent, the media is bleating about rushing in biometric retina scanners and Orwellian behaviour sensing technology. This is the only way they can do these things without backlash and protest, just have a major terror alert and rush them through.
How is it that people can still deny that our governments are forwarding a big brother control agenda? ID cards, Biometric databases, retina scanners, face scanning cameras, behaviour sensing machines. The list goes on. It has been proven over and over that these measures will not help prevent terrorism, the government itself has even admitted this, so why do they relentlessly push them?
The latest mind bending terror stupidity has every passenger at airports pouring their potentially explosive liquids into bins inside the airports.
How stupid can things get? How far does it have to go before people start asking simple questions about what they are being made to do in the name of security?
If these liquids are potentially explosive what the hell is the good in pouring them all into large bins inside overcrowded airports and mixing them all together?
The Asheville Citizen Times interviewed a mother who was forced to pour away her baby's milk:
"I have mixed feelings about all this," Leoni said as she waited to board a flight for Miami at Asheville Regional Airport. "On the one side, I’m fine with the safety measures and the effects, but on the other hand, I had to pour out my baby’s milk this morning. They said I couldn't take it on board."
And here she is pouring the potentially deadly milk into a vat of other potentially explosive dangerous liquids.
The official counterterrorism statement told us that the plan involved mixing a sports drink with a gel-like substance to concoct explosives that could be ignited with an MP3 player or cell phone. The sports drink could be combined with a peroxide-based paste to form a potent explosive cocktail, counterterrorism officials said.
If you believe the dodgy science that suggests that these liquids can be ignited by calling up your mom or whacking on a bit of Led Zeppelin on your MP3 player then they better clear the airports pretty smartish because those bins full liquids could go up any second. unless they are just bins full of baby milk and Dr Pepper that is.
The Scientific American states:
Furthermore, some chemicals can be mixed to create a toxic gas capable of killing people in an enclosed space such as an airplane.
Great, marvelous, lets get mixing them in bins then!
The XOPL blogger here is bang on the money and I couldn't put it any better:
Sir, I'm going to have to take this bottle of water away from you since it might be a liquid explosive, and I'm going to have to mix it with all of these other bottles of possibly liquid explosive, and I'm going to have to dump them all in this trash can... together. Nevermind that the plot specifically mentions mixing chemicals and/or nitroglycerin... which explodes if handled too roughly.
The only conclusion you can reach here is that airport security are not looking for terrorists because if they truly believed terrorists were attempting to board planes with liquids they wouldn't be mishandling the liquids in this way.
Der it's like totally fake like eskimos and the holocaust der.
^^^ yeah yeah yeah....yawn....now try and post something that demonstrates taht you have some brain activity going on.
^^^Typo correction - 'that'
You should take your own advice ken lol
Oh and Alex Jones didn’t predict the attack on the twin towers but he did predict binladen would attack America and for that I give him a lot of credit.
Jappy If that’s true that means the US government basically trained alquada and was responsible for the terrorist attacks on 911.
by seon on Sat Aug 12, 06 8:29pm
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oh come on, seth mcfarlane predicted osama bin laden would attack the U.S., with planes no less.
Not at all...you two are spouting your shill nonsense again, outside of media controlled America - everyone knows that Osama has been dead since December 2001.
Arrests included baker, salesman and book-keeper
London Times / Adam Fresco, Russell Jenkins, Lewis Smith and Nicola Woolcock
| August 12 2006
ONE terror suspect made cakes, which he delivered in a white van. Another worked in Hamleys, packing toys for children.
Two were wheeler-dealing brothers from the East End of London, who grew up selling sweets and crisps bought from cash-and-carries, and graduated into selling cars and lorries in Chingford.
Among the others arrested in the past 48 hours there was a book-keeper and an expectant father, a secretary for a trendy East London music company, a computer salesman, two company directors and a security guard who worked at Heathrow.
The lives of the two brothers, Umir and Nabeel Hussain, 24 and 21, transformed after their father returned from a trip to Pakistan several years ago.
Before then they had filled their Chingford street with lorries and cars that they bought cheap and tried to sell. As teenagers they would also buy sweets and crisps to sell on.
Their house was never empty, with neighbours describing how lots of people would come and go from the semi- detached property.
On Wednesday night they were arrested with their brother Mehran. Last night their father, Fazal Hussain, a former bus driver for London Transport, told ITV News that he refused to believe any of the claims against his sons.
Speaking through an interpreter, he said: “They went to prayer and they were Muslims, that is the only thing they were guilty of.”
He broke down, unable to speak. The interpreter, a close family friend, spoke for him, saying: “They showed no signs of being radicalised. Anyone who knows them would swear on the Koran that they are innocent.
“They are totally innocent. Fazal cannot understand what has been going on.
“He does not understand how such decent and lawabiding citizens, who would not even think of injuring or swearing at anybody, let alone carry out such activities . . . he totally refuses them. He cannot understand why.”
The family, his wife Raniza, who speaks little English, and another sister, were well liked and used to send Christmas cards to their neighbours.
But their life changed after Fazal returned from his three-month trip abroad.
The Christmas cards stopped, the cars disappeared and the brothers started growing beards and attending a new mosque that had opened ten minutes from their home. The daughter started wearing a yashmak.
A committee member at the Chingford Islamic Society Mosque said that the brothers had been going there since the mosque opened about three years ago. They had never interacted with any of the other members.
Umir had just created a new business, Epic Contributions, with Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, who has three brothers and a sister.
Tayib Rauf, 22, who worked in the confectionary industry, was arrested with another man at dawn on Thursday after police smashed his door with a battering ram.
It was not the first time he had come into contact with police. His uncle Mohammed Saeed, 54, was stabbed to death near his home in Birmingham in 2002. The killer has never been caught.
Police confirmed that they searched Mr Rauf’s home in connection with the murder but neither he nor the other suspect arrested yesterday were suspects in the killing.
Police searched Mr Rauf’s home again at the height of the Lozells riots in Birmingham last autumn after the racist killing of Isaiah Young-Sams.
Three Asian men were convicted of the murder but neither Mr Rauf nor his brothers were arrested or charged in relation to the murder.
The arrest in Pakistan of Mr Rauf’s brother, Rashid, sparked Thursday’s terror swoops across Britain.
Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, another suspect, was a security man at Heathrow airport.
Another suspect, Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, a Muslim known as Arafat to his friends, never recovered from the death of his father on a pilgrimage to Pakistan. Mr Khan was a computer salesman.
Osman Adam Khatib, 20, was described as “someone with a good heart”.
Ibrahim Savant, 25, a book-keeper in Limehouse, East London, was known as Oliver before he converted to Islam. He has recently married and is expecting a baby shortly. The family home in Walthamstow was being searched by police yesterday.
The youngest suspect is Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, who was seized in the Clapton area of East London.
"outside of media controlled America - everyone knows that Osama has been dead since December 2001."
strange, the media in my country is responsible and unbiased, considered far left leaning (simply because the facts are far left leaning), yet this "common knowledge" you speak of is completely unheard of.
Then neothe1, your claim that the media in your country is "unbiased" and "responsible" isn't based on truth is it? It's just more of your propaganda pushing.
If they don't report basic facts, then they aren't truthful.
you don't even know what country i'm from, so your last comment is based on nothing
in case you couldn't tell by my coloUrful language, i'm not a yank. so no offenCe, but do me a favoUr and either question once in a while or shut the hell up.
{you don't even know what country i'm from,... by neothe1 on Aug 12, 2006 11:09pm}
I don't need to know what country you are from to recognise that either you are telling lies, or your news media is telling lies, because if you say that the news media in your country didn't report the truth about an event, then that means either they lied, or you lied. By your own claims, then it means they can't be either "responsible" or anything close to "unbiased".
you still provide no evidence. you're using the "no true scotsman" fallacy to discredit evidence against your unsupported claim.
Which unsupported claim? You were the one saying that your news media didn't report a true event, not I.
So either your news media is lying or you are. Which is it?
It's amazing how the conspiracy theorist can develope a whole story around a event which cleary was a terrorist attack waiting to happen.The sad fact is that these C.Ts will never be convinced that the war on terror is real they are fanatics who believe the greatest evil in the world is America and her allies.
It was only a "terrorist attack" waiting to happen, because our notorious conmen crooked leaders in the UK and USA governments were waiting for the right time to spring another "fake terror plot" to distract the public's attention in their own countries from their little buddy Israel's state terrorism in the invasion of Lebanon. Ever notice that these "terrorist plots" always have convenient political timing to support Bush and Blair? Lots of other people have. I guess the "Islamic terrorists" are always hyper-aware of when best to distract attention from whatever horrible criminal activity that the governments of the USA, UK, and Israel are currently earning derision for.
"So either your news media is lying or you are. Which is it?"
you deliberately left out the third possibility, the one consistent with the evidence.
Which evidence? You haven't cited any. I can only go by what you stated about your own news media. If they told the truth, then you are lying because you continue to decieve about them. If they are lying, then you are still lying because you claimed that that were "unbiased" and "responsible".
i'm talking about the evidence you've presented.
which evidence is that? If you're not clear, then nobody will know what you're talking about.
all the evidence you presented. deliberately misleading screenshots, manipulated calculations, all your arguments completely fabricated. that means you are lying.
Seems like since you can't specifically state what is wrong with the math and physics that I posted on that other ballot, that your claim that it's "misleading" is more lies by you.
The screenshot of your staged conversation with seon is only what you and "seon" (or is it you as "seon") posted. What follows afterward on seon's public messages shows quite clearly that you/seon panicked and tried to hide the obviousness of how staged/fake that conversation was.
Just like your lies about MrFatNose being Osama bin Lsden in your futile (and ridiculous) attempt at "Believe me, not your own eyes" when it's obvious to anyone that MrFatNose is not long dead Osama bin Laden, and the "confession video" is a fake.
Now the subject of this ballot, which neothe1 is desperately (yet again) trying to divert attention from is the FAKE terrorist plot.
He doesn't want anyone to learn that none of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many of these alleged "terrorists" did not even have passports, which would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber because they wouldn't getting on a plane to go anywhere.
"Seems like since you can't specifically state what is wrong with the math and physics that I posted on that other ballot, that your claim that it's "misleading" is more lies by you."
i already did, you're not measuring the height of the longest collapse, but the height of the whole building, deliberately altering the results.
"Just like your lies about MrFatNose blah blah lie lie repeat repeat bullshit nonsense insult...."
already proven, move on
"The screenshot of your staged conversation with seon is only what you and "seon" (or is it you as "seon") posted. What follows afterward on seon's public messages shows quite clearly that you/seon panicked and tried to hide the obviousness of how staged/fake that conversation was."
that explains the argument we had more than 6 months ago where he called me a fascist, and why he was a die hard supporter of your lies until you turned on him.
not to mention why you voted in support of him on his charlie sheen ballot.
No, neothe1, you have not proven anything despite your continually ridiculous lies claiming that you have. Your excuses about using partial heights for the WTC buildings dont work either, and are only strawman arguments and excuses.
I didn't vote in support of seon, I voted only for a ballot option, nothing more.
Now perhaps you can move onto the subject of THIS BALLOT. It's seems that you shills have a childish lack of ability to concentrate on the subject.
refusal to acknowledge defeat does not negate it.
So,neothe1, you that very well, so when are you going to acknowledge your extremely obvious defeat?
can you make any argument without the word "obvious"??
Why bother when you've OBVIOUS-ly lost the argument when that's all you can say in reply.
Now, on the subject of this ballot, considering that of the alleged "terrorists" many of them didn't have passports, none of them had ever made bombs before (no experience), and it appears that the only reason that they were being "watched" was because they were muslim...
Why should we believe that this FAKE "terrorist plot" was anything more than another political ploy by Bush and Blair?
Are you able to concentrate on the subject of the ballot, neothe1, or do you lack the braincells to do so?
you will lean that insisting you're right does not equate to proving you're right, especially after (or in this case, long after) you've been proven wrong
Yet again, Are you able to concentrate on the subject of the ballot, neothe1, or do you lack the braincells to do so?
neothe1, you want to prove me wrong?
EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when steel & concrete buildings collapsed down at near free fall speed into their footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.
Can you cite a single exception to this?
With a photo
i've already proven that they did not collapse at near freefall speed, and i found a possible flaw in your calculation, which you refuse to correct, proving you a liar.
If you have found a flaw in the MATH, then why is that you can't actually GIVE SOME MATH TO PROVE IT?
You're just a little liar, always pretending to have proven something without ever actually doing so.
i can't give any math, i can't even add triple digits. i'm a spatial thinker. but your refusal to recalculate from the actual height shows your dishonesty, and fear.
Nothing to do with your inability to do maths shill, it's simply a case of you being unable to back up your false arguments with hard facts, oh by the way neothe1.....
I have some unfinished business with you re some certain unanswered questions of mine to you.......
but how many times do I have to ask you neothe1 before you excercise your duty to answer them?
So YET again, I put it to you -
I want to know why you promulgate this dichotomy of on one hand proclaiming no US government conspiracy, and, then on the other hand proclaiming that Bush knew the attacks were coming and allowed them to go ahead - in other words allowed the mass murder of thousands of innocent Americans in the greatest dereliction of duty by a US president in history - for ulterior motives - namely to invade Iraq as you rightly state, this is treason, plain and simple!
Is it treason or not neothe1 and should Bush be impeached?
Answer that question please.
Answer it now ->
Should Bush be impeached neothe1?
What is your opinion on this please neothe1?
Not too much to ask is it neothe1?
Stop avoiding the question, you are only fooling yourself - everyone reading this can see you squirming like a slippery eel in the hands of the truth - squirming to avoid answering a question that you are duty bound to answer ->
Did Bush - as you neothe1 all but declare - commit treason and if so should he be impeached?
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Well neothe1?
Why are you afraid to answer the above questions?
i want to answer your questions, but i will not respond to pasting. and you are taking advantage of that, by continuing to paste you keep the truth hidden.
but how many times do I have to ask you neothe1 before you excercise your duty to answer them?
So YET again, I put it to you -
I want to know why you promulgate this dichotomy of on one hand proclaiming no US government conspiracy, and, then on the other hand proclaiming that Bush knew the attacks were coming and allowed them to go ahead - in other words allowed the mass murder of thousands of innocent Americans in the greatest dereliction of duty by a US president in history - for ulterior motives - namely to invade Iraq as you rightly state, this is treason, plain and simple!
Is it treason or not neothe1 and should Bush be impeached?
Answer that question please.
Answer it now ->
Should Bush be impeached neothe1?
What is your opinion on this please neothe1?
Not too much to ask is it neothe1?
Stop avoiding the question, you are only fooling yourself - everyone reading this can see you squirming like a slippery eel in the hands of the truth - squirming to avoid answering a question that you are duty bound to answer ->
Did Bush - as you neothe1 all but declare - commit treason and if so should he be impeached?
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you have proven that you do not want an answer. you have poroven that you are dishonest.
neothe1, you have proven that you can't answer with any truth at all, and can only paste spam most of the time in response.
i prefer to think of it as respam. you spam, i spam. you paste, i paste. i'm mocking you. but your continual refusal to ask a straight question proves your dishonesty.
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NONVALID - No evidence.
Well, Tode1, since THERE WEREN'T ANY VICTIMS, moron! Where's your stupid evidence to show that there were when you put up that dumb ballot choice {Tell that to the victims.}
Besides, the whole fake terrorism plot was blown as a government piece of fiction anyway.
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