THE COSTS OF THE CURRENT 'HOMELAND SECURITY'

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THE COSTS OF THE CURRENT 'HOMELAND SECURITY'


[+] serious ballot by Cathexis
ACTIVE Mon Aug 14, 06 - Sat Apr 05, 08

They find a way to use box cutters to crash planes into buildings; we spend millions making sure no one carries nail clippers onto planes.

They get caught with liquid explosives; we spend millions making sure no one carries toothpaste onto planes.

If they attack a shopping mall or a train or a port, what will happen? They will keep making small shifts in tactics and we will keep spending millions in reaction to their latest tactic.

Do you believe that our current approach to Homeland Security will prove effective and sustainable?

(Note: The question was not 'Well what would YOU do?' which seeks to use the logic 'This sucks but I'll stick with it.' It was 'Do you believe that our current approach to Homeland Security will prove effective and sustainable?')

Yes, stay the course
No, it is reactive, ineffective, and too costly
Without racial profiling these measures are useless


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Voted : No, it is reactive, ineffective, and too costly
Great ballot.
by mojo on Mon Aug 14, 06 9:01am [+]

IMO, some level of security does help stop the stupid/ sloppy attempts ... but we'd be deluding ourselves if we believed it was sufficient to 'secure the homeland.'
by Cathexis on Mon Aug 14, 06 9:02am [+]

We can never be %100 safe but these measures help reduce the risk of another terrorist attack.That being said without racial profiling these measures are useless;they can only be effective if we are searching the people who are most likely going commit these attacks and not 80 year old jewish women.
by Corrupt on Mon Aug 14, 06 9:21am [+]

Voted : Yes, stay the course
Surely you aren't advocating doing nothing?

Maybe you should contact HS with your better ideas. Hm... Just a thought.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Aug 14, 06 10:02am [+]

I advocate 'profiling', btw.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Aug 14, 06 10:03am [+]

dazzle, you are correct -- deriding the current practice is not the same as 'doing nothing.'

How fortunate that we have more than two choices!
by Cathexis on Mon Aug 14, 06 10:08am [+]

Corrupt ... so remaining in 'reactive' mode and spending millions on each new tactic is fine -- as long as we also implement racial profiling?
by Cathexis on Mon Aug 14, 06 10:09am [+]

Yes Cathexis that is correct we have to do something to combat new possible threats that arise.These measures serve to cut down on the possible options the terrorist have when planning an attack.

Also aren't all security measures "reactive" Cathexis?Your not suggesting taking preemptive actions are you?IC_wink
by Corrupt on Mon Aug 14, 06 10:18am [+]

Some posters on this site come across SO anti-American.
Now, before you rebut, I know you will throw out your "but, Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc," blah. Can you never separate USA from politics?

No, didn't think so.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Aug 14, 06 11:22am [+]

Corrupt: Ha ... ya sly dog!

I am advocating sane security (banning all liquids, for example, does not fall under this category) and the pre-emptive Patch22us Foreign Policy Ppproach (tm). wink
by Cathexis on Mon Aug 14, 06 12:34pm [+]

dazz: Some posters? Am I among that select crowd?

If so, I do have a word of advice -- always separate 'our country' from 'things our leaders do in our name.' Otherwise, you'll be waking up one morning wondering which Brown Short to wear today.
by Cathexis on Mon Aug 14, 06 12:59pm [+]

Voted : No, it is reactive, ineffective, and too costly
This is sorta what I was thinking of the other day, the reaction.. of course it's what's natural to do, but where should we draw the line? To be really safe shouldn't we strip search everyone or just stop flying altogether?
I don't exactly want "too costly" to be part of my answer because safety is worth anything, IF it's some measure that'll actually make us safe, and I don't know how we're supposed to figure that out right now.
by Jyl on Mon Aug 14, 06 2:11pm [+]

Voted : No, it is reactive, ineffective, and too costly
THis again brings me to analogizing this effort to World War I, a modern conflict micromanaged by dinosaurs. These clowns need to get on the edge and learn to think like the opposition, then a step ahead, if they have any hope of success.
by Truthseeker013 on Mon Aug 14, 06 2:32pm [+]

Corrupt- so we ought to consider aya as a potential terrorist?
by Truthseeker013 on Mon Aug 14, 06 2:33pm [+]

Well Truthseeker I'm affraid aya is going to have to be pulled asided when at airports.We can't stop everyone and still be able to effectively provide security.

Just for the record if racial profiling was ennacted I would be pulled over too because I fit the profile;olive color skin,curly dark hair and am a young guy.I would rather be stopped everytime I go to the airport then allow another 9/11 to happen.
by Corrupt on Mon Aug 14, 06 2:52pm [+]

So we shouldn't do these things because they cost money?

A planeful of people is worth, what a couple million tops? Throw in the cost of the plane and that's a pretty hefty sum, but less than we're spending, so I guess economically we should allow those people to die to save a few bucks.

Seems pretty callous cath.

I think we should spend what we need to to save lives.

The current measures aren't working as well as they should because we're being politcally correct in our approach, which is doomed to failure.
by herzog on Mon Aug 14, 06 4:01pm [+]

I have some serious issues with the current situation. However, I must admit there have been no attacks and plots have been foiled. The key is to anticipate what the terrorists might do next. Advertising your approach is a very good way to fail to protect people.

Yes, small shifts in tactics are necessary even if it costs a lot of money. There really isn't a better way unless more effective intelligence gathering is added.

I'm not sure that I understand the intent of this ballot. Unless maybe you are speaking of what may be more effective ways of combating terrorism.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Aug 14, 06 4:19pm [+]

herz: We shouldn't do thes ethings becaus ethey are expensive, ineffective, and ultimately will be worked around and/or avoided -- since we stay only in reative mode regarding security.

Looking out for safety doesn't necessarily equate to "fiscal irresponsibility."

I remember a time when "Conservatives" would have known that.
by Cathexis on Tue Aug 15, 06 4:56pm [+]

FF: There have been no asteroids hitting the Earth since I turned 21, either.

Naturally, using your logic, I take full credit.
by Cathexis on Tue Aug 15, 06 4:57pm [+]






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