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SHOULD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PREACH THAT CONDOMS DO NOT PREVENT HIV?

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SHOULD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PREACH THAT CONDOMS DO NOT PREVENT HIV?


[+] serious ballot by wideheadofknowledge
ACTIVE Wed Aug 16, 06 - Fri Oct 24, 08

Senior Cardinals in the Catholic Church, like Alfonso Lopez Trujillo promote the idea that HIV can easily pass through condoms.

Should the Church preach this information?

Yes they should - condoms do not stop the spread of HIV
No they shouldn't - condoms prevent transmission of HIV
I am not sure right now - I'll be back with a comment after I've Googled it


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The limit to the ballot question length did not allow the full question which should end: prevent THE SPREAD OF HIV.

Just for the pedants out there... you know who you are.
by wideheadofknowledge on Wed Aug 16, 06 9:12pm [+]

Voted : No they shouldn't - condoms prevent transmission of HIV
When used properly, the success rate is very high. I have never understood why the Catholic church doesn't seem to get the reality of the situation. I can understand the teachings regarding marriage etc, but millions are dying.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Aug 16, 06 9:18pm [+]

Voted : Yes they should - condoms do not stop the spread of HIV
Indeed.

The Church like to promote abstinence which clearly is ineffective. Education and codom promotion means even sordid little f*ckholes like Thailand only have a 1.4% of their population carrying HIV. Compare that to 25% in Kenya. Ouch.
by wideheadofknowledge on Wed Aug 16, 06 9:33pm [+]

They could point out that condoms are never 100% effective at preventing disease or pregnancy, but they are certainly better than the alternative.
by herzog on Wed Aug 16, 06 10:33pm [+]

The chances of catching HIV when using a condom properly are so astronomically low that for all intents and purposes you could say thet you would NEVER catch HIV from having sex with a condom.

Its around a 500 million to one shot.

by wideheadofknowledge on Wed Aug 16, 06 10:59pm [+]

^It's not quite that effective.

"The method failure rate of condoms is 2% per year. The actual pregnancy rates among condoms users vary depending on the population being studied, with rates of 10-18% per year being reported.

According to a 2001 report by the National Institutes of Health, correct and consistent use of latex condoms:

* reduces the risk of HIV/AIDS transmission by approximately 85% relative to risk when unprotected. See overall HIV transmission rates.
* reduces the risk of gonorrhea for men by approximately 71% relative to risk when unprotected.

A University of Washington study published in the New England Journal of Medicine in June 2006 reports that proper condom use decreases the risk of transmission for human papilloma virus by approximately 70%."

-wikipedia

Reducing it by 85% is great and I would encourage people to use condoms, but it is also fair to point out that they are not perfect and even using them when you have sex won't make you completely safe.
by herzog on Wed Aug 16, 06 11:12pm [+]

Voted : No they shouldn't - condoms prevent transmission of HIV
I think they are trying to use technicalities and semantics to undermine something they area against on othergrounds.
by Cathexis on Thu Aug 17, 06 6:17am [+]

Proper use of condoms *significantly* reduces exposure to HIV.

Wearing protective eye gear on my elbows won't help my eyes, but I am not going to go into factroies across teh world and tell them protective eyegear doesn't significantly lower the probability of eye injuries in the workplace.
by Cathexis on Thu Aug 17, 06 6:19am [+]

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