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Everything is staged, hell, it's not like extremists are ever responsible for everything. Just easier to blame everything on Israel and America.
by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 8:53am
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Maybe because Israel and the USA aren't anywhere near as goody-goody as people in the USA often think that they are.
I never said they were, but what is implied all the time is that there are these continous conspiricist theories, not with any new info, but usually what ppl do is try and go back on what info that they have, and try to find descripancies. Muslims aren't all goody-goody either, there are clerics in the West who do want to bring about shari'a law; who have said that those attacked in Britain and on 9/11 deserved it.
by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 9:41am
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You don't think that the rape of Nanking is some anti-Japanese bigotry, do you?
by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 9:42am
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There are ppl living in Sydney who have said that they will never integrate with the general population - 40% of Muslims in Britain want shari'a law; some Muslims (like Khalid Kelly) have claimed that Britian will be subjected to a futher wave of attacks by Muslims because of Iraq and Afghanistan; is it too hard to believe that maybe, just maybe that not all attacks are caused by the government and actually caused by extremists who do hate the West? And even if the U.S. pulled out all of it's support for Israel, completely pulled out of the MIddle East (and, by some miracle, found an alternative source of energy, and had no reason to rely on oil), they'd find another reason to hate us.
by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 9:47am
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Also, I"m not from the US, from Canada - I thought that you thought I was from the U.S.
by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 9:51am
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Aya, I don't know anything about you. I haven't been on this site long enough. and despite what some idiots keep lying about, I'm not Ken. Which is why I know very little about you.
{just maybe that not all attacks are caused by the government... by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 9:47am} and it's equally likely that some terrorist attacks are. Nobody on this site, or anywhere else that I've debated 9/11 has been able to cite anyone who can simulate the WTC collapses which looked just like controlled demolitions, and had so many suspicious features. Besides, the straight lines of the explosions blowing out the floors BEFORE the falling debris can reach them are clearly visible in the videos when slowed down, then there's the hundreds of witnesses to explosions, and the seismic data which shows waves too short to be caused by the collapses, and could only be due to another source of high energy. Plus the faked cellphone calls.
{And even if the U.S. pulled out all of it's support for Israel, completely pulled out of the MIddle East (and, by some miracle, found an alternative source of energy, and had no reason to rely on oil), they'd find another reason to hate us. by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 9:47am} Are you sure? I seriously doubt that. It sounds like more racist propaganda to me.
I think the thing that will push us into Iran/Syria will be a perceived attack on some Israeli target.
What a ridiculous idea.
{What a ridiculous idea. by Noblese_Oblige on Sat Aug 19, 06 12:19pm} Say WHY, with some logic please.
The Bali bombings were staged terrorist attacks too. The news about the Indonesian military being behind the Bali bombings was reported widely in the Australian news media after the Australian government broadcaster SBS reported on the staged terrorist attacks. INSIDE INDONESIA'S WAR ON TERROR Truth about the Bali Bombings October 14, 2005 SBS DATELINE - 2005-10-12 The news was also reported "The Australian" (at about the same time) which is a nationwide conservative newspaper. POLICE HAD 'ROLE' IN BALI BLASTS The Australian 10-12-5 theaustralian . news . com . au / common / story_page / 0 % 2C5744 % 2C16898139 % 255E29277 % 2C00 . html Despite this, John Howard's government continued to lie about it.
"and it's equally likely that some terrorist attacks are." But not all; are they? Can you prove that all are? Can you prove that about the Mumbai bombings, the Madrid bombings, the London plot? It's no secret that Islamic terrorists are responsible for 66 percent of attacks around the world. "Are you sure? I seriously doubt that. It sounds like more racist propaganda to me." What? You think I"m being racist by saying that extremists would hate us even if there were no geopolitical reasons to be in the Middle East? Well, let's take Israel for example, everytime Israel says "Let's talk, let's talk" Palestinians always say, "no, give us Jeruselum." Even though Israel has pulled out all of their settlements from the Gaza Strip, Hamas is still launching offensives. Non-Muslims and Christians are continually persectuted throughout the Muslim world; they don't just hate the West because of geo-political reasons like oil and Israel, but also for our way of life. There history of the treatment of women and gays has been just great; they don't tolerate homosexuality, and as I mentioned before, with the clerics living in Europe, some have made it no secret that they want countries like Britain to become Muslim. So, what is racist about saying that?
by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 8:09pm
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Lemme ask a question, though, why is it possible to believe that, in spite of what history tells us, that the rape of nanking and the holocaust didn't happen, that the atomic bomb was dropped over hiroshima and nagasaki occurred? I mean, we're going to disavow evidence right? So how do we know that the hiroshima bomb actually happened? It could just be a huge lie by the Japanese government.
by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 8:12pm
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{Can you prove that all are...by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 8:09pm} You are being very unclear. Are you trying to claim that because not all terrorist attacks are provable as being done by intelligence agencies that NONE are? Where's you evidence that NONE are?
{So how do we know that the hiroshima bomb .... by aya on Sat Aug 19, 06 8:12pm} Stay on topic. I'm sure that you can do this.
Alex Jones has been talking about a "staged" terrorist attack in late October. I think that you're right about Sydney, Australia being more likely. They won't risk another big attack in London or New York. People would be too suspicious with the intense security these days in the USA and UK. Same with Canada because it's next door to the USA. My bet; something like the first big Bali Bombing, same type of big bomb in a van in December
Voted : Don't know, let me put on my tinfoil hat too, then i'll think about it.
Uhh, I'm guessing anywhere where large numbers of innocent infidal humans gather.
I've been waiting and waiting for the USA government shills to answer these questions on other sites. THEY NEVER CAN; WTC1 AA Flt 11 8:46:40 UTC - FAA last primary radar contact 8:46:30 UTC - seismic event/NIST Both times are real and accurate QUESTION- What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event? (It can not be the aircrash since that happened at 8:46:40) or cite anything to back the 9/11 "Arabs did it with boxcutters" silliness with an answer to this one; EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed down at near free fall speed into their footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition. Can any of you silly shills cite a single exception to this? With a photo, video, or anything else. and by the way, a four storey toy factory does not count as a steel-framed hi-rise building. Neither do two-storey wood & brick townhouses. Nor do buildings that are only partially finished, that made only of cheap steel jacks with concrete plates but no steel crossbeams. Also, neither do all-concrete apartment buildings. I've seen a lot of excuses, but I've yet to see any of the USA government shills actually cite a real steel-framed hi-rise.
My amended theory: An alleged attack on one of the following: * an Israeli target * a US marine or naval vessel * a mid-east US oil facility * an Iraqi border incursion (allegedly from by Iran)
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