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ACCOUNTING FOR 'EXTERNALIZED COSTS'

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ACCOUNTING FOR 'EXTERNALIZED COSTS'


[+] serious ballot by Cathexis
ACTIVE Sat Aug 26, 06 - Wed Feb 11, 09

'Externalized costs' is an economics term, broadly defined as 'Costs that are shifted from the sellers and/or buyers to third parties.' They can take the form of government subsidies to Business, pollution, effects on local communities, and any other 'cost' that a company avoids or diffuses by inflicting the results on non-company groups.

Generally- Accepted Accounting practices in most countries address only the surface 'dollars and cents' costs of Business. Should Accounting practices be changed to also reflect Externalized Costs?

Yes: Accounting should include Externalized Costs
No: Accounting should not include Externalized Costs
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Voted : No: Accounting should not include Externalized Costs
Only if we want numerical chaos to reign. I can see an entirely new level of creative bookkeeping springing forth from this.
by Truthseeker013 on Sat Aug 26, 06 12:47pm [+]

TS: Point taken, but ... then do we just continue ignoring Externalized Costs?
by Cathexis on Sat Aug 26, 06 12:51pm [+]

How would you possibly put those in numbers? Isn't that entirely subjective?
by herzog on Sat Aug 26, 06 1:43pm [+]

herz: So you're saying that because they are difficult to quantify, it is OK to ignore them?
by Cathexis on Sat Aug 26, 06 1:56pm [+]

I'll put that up as a separate ballot question on ballot #101036.
by Cathexis on Sat Aug 26, 06 2:00pm [+]

Make that ballot #101037 -- sorry. Garbled the text in my first attempt.
by Cathexis on Sat Aug 26, 06 2:07pm [+]

Not difficult, impossible.
by herzog on Sat Aug 26, 06 2:36pm [+]

This would be the equivalent of taxing different companies based on how pretty their building is, who'd judge? How could you possibly be objective or quantify that measurement?
by herzog on Sat Aug 26, 06 2:37pm [+]

Voted : No: Accounting should not include Externalized Costs
It would cost more than it's worth.
by thc2883 on Sun Aug 27, 06 4:30am [+]

herz & thc: Would you, then, suggest that externalizing costs is an acceptable practice?
by Cathexis on Sun Aug 27, 06 7:22am [+]

Herzog

you're wrong Im afraid, theoretically there is no reason why these externalities cannot be calculated in cents and dollars, though in reality it would be extremely difficult to do it to a high degree of accuracy.

These externalities arise because of missing markets and exclusion from the pricing system.

A firms private marginal costs are lower than the social marginal cost on the last unit produced (when prfit maximising at marginal revenue=marginal cost), hence they have an incentive to produce MORE than is socially optimum.

One solution is for the government to intervene, like it should for any form of market failure. Even a capitalist should agree with that.

But dont worry Herz, I know that sounds FAR too much like the dreaded socialism you fear so. so Im pleased to tell you there is a way forward WITHOUT government intervention, though its only a theory.

Its called Choase Theorem (1965), and it concerns property rights. Look it up.
by lil_ape on Sun Aug 27, 06 9:06am [+]

At the moment the market does not even aknowledge these costs, let alone deal with them. An example of market failure in a capitalist system.
by lil_ape on Sun Aug 27, 06 9:08am [+]

Who would have thought an Economics degree would actually be useful eh?
by lil_ape on Sun Aug 27, 06 9:11am [+]

Mr Goodness, Mr. Cathexis, are you trying to confuse me? What sort of ballot is this? What is it about, really? Does it have some meaning in most of our worlds? I think not. My head is still spinning.
by margaret123 on Sun Aug 27, 06 12:42pm [+]

cathexis
Not at all. If it can be proven that one entity has damaged the property of another, they should have to pay for it.
by thc2883 on Mon Aug 28, 06 4:44am [+]

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