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It is absurd to imagine that China's industrial plants are creating local acid rain. Pollution creates global environmental problems. It's like peeing in a swimming pool and imagining only the corner where the pee occurred will suffer consequences. The automobile is the greatest source of pollution on our planet, and Americans drive the most cars. Don't you think it ironic that the very people who protest pollution so much drive these deadly polluters to their rallies? I do.
So it's americas fault that china has acid rain? That's a new one. No marge, acid rain is caused by regional pollution. Sulfur is released by burning various substances (especially coal which the chinese love) and that binds with water to make sulfuric acid. Another neighboring industrial power could do it to them, but not from across the ocean. And china is pretty much the only industrial power close enough and large enough to be responsible. Sorry, but this one isn't americas fault.
Margaret, the US had it signed and implemented it (like we would have if Bush hadn't stole the election in 2000), was subject to various requirements under the protocol. China wasn't.
Guys, I wasn't trying to refute anything. I was just pointing out that no country or region can pollute without polluting the whole planet. And, Mr. Herzog, I still find it hard to swallow that with the movement of weather around the globe, that one region can cause acid rain for itself and no one else. I also stick by my guns in pointing out that the major polluter on the earth is the internal combustion engine, of which America has the most.
My point was that it is impossible to pollute in one area of the world and not pollute the entire globe. I also wanted to say that the internal combustion engine produces the vast amount of pollution on the earth and America is the world's largest number of automobiles. Mr. Herzog: I did not say, and did not mean to imply, that it is America's fault that China has acid rain. My point (apparently missed) was that the internal combustion engine is the worst polluter on the planet, and America has the most of these engines installed in automobiles. Pointing fingers and playing politics with pollution is incredible short sited and wrong. America is a polluter with just about the entire rest of the world.
Voted : There is no logical reason for kyoto to exempt china
They're part of the planet, like the rest of us. They have an equally vested interest.
In keeping the world a livable place, I meant to add.
'My point was that it is impossible to pollute in one area of the world and not pollute the entire globe.' So then what's the logic in a treaty supposedly out to combat pollution and it's effects on the world excluding china? Either they believe chinas pollution stops at the borders or there are some ulterior motives here that maybe they aren't so open about. ' I also wanted to say that the internal combustion engine produces the vast amount of pollution on the earth and America is the world's largest number of automobiles.' And china is currently buying more than anyone else, one day they will have more than any other nation. BUt they will still be excluded from kyoto, even though their cars will hardly be magically eco-friendly, non-polluting vehicles running on pollen and sunshine. And cars are not the leading cause of pollution, industry is. And chinas industry is growing like there's no tommorrow. Besides which, I wasn't implying that america doesn't pollute. I was saying that it's odd for china not to be included in this treaty despite their high level of pollution, america is most definitely written in to the kyoto treaty. It would be odd too if america were exluded from the wording and everyone else were included, but obviously that's not the case. So if you have two polluting nations, one is given an exemption and one isn't, doesn't that seem a little odd to you given that pollution anywhere affects the entire world?
Good ballot topic. Margaret I got your original point and it makes perfect sense.
What Margaret said.
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