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Voted : Trick question! (see comment)
OK, I'll get the ball rolling.... It's a trick question because there was no conspiracy!
Would any sane person having been involved in setting that up, even as part of a black op, come out afterwards and say on TV, "Hey everyone, I helped murder 3,000 people. I was a willing mass murderer, and did it for money. Lots of money. They paid me real well to kill all those innocent people, and I'm not worried in the slightest that they'll probably kill me too because of what I'm about to tell you...now these were the people who employed me, top of the list is..."
You must be a shill earning $12.50 an hour!! They can't. Simple answer. Because it isn't true. Watch the usual suspects have conniptions below. Also, notice that most of these users who want to use 9/11 as an example of how America is becoming a fascist state are exactly the same one who: 1. Are Holocaust deniers 2. Japanese war crime deniers and apologists. 3. Use fascist tactics of shouting people down and intimidation of dissenters by calling them "shills", traitors, etc. 1+1=2
FiddleFaddleOnLSD tried the same lies on another ballot, so I'll post the same answer. (Notice that most of these users who want to use 9/11 as an example of how America is becoming a fascist state are exactly the same one who: 1. Are Holocaust deniers 2. Japanese war crime deniers and apologists. by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Tue Aug 29, 06 6:34am) NOT AT ALL. I noticed instead that you are trying to put everyone who doubts the 9-11 bullshit story in the same basket without any evidence. I dare you to find posts by me, by Ken from Dublin, by Blackcat06, where I or they have posted any comment as "holocaust deniers" or whatever. I don't believe that I've ever posted on the nazi holocaust ballot. I'll defend the rights of others to free speech to the death though. When the members of a society are no longer allowed the freedom to question, then they are no longer free. You must be some kind of fascist.
Clearly this is proof that the government has those little flashy things from men in black that erase peoples memories and allow new ones to be impanted. Everyone on my conspiracy homepage agrees . . .
We represent the ever growing truth. Almost every major event in history is a conspiracy or a lie or a fraud or a scam. We will keep educating you until you evolve from being sheeple to people.
Let's look at some of the other ways, witnesses are kept quiet. Legal gag orders; thousands of FAA and airport staff have had legal gag orders imposed on them. Harrassment; many witnesses to Flight 93 exploding in the air have been harassed and were threatened by the FBI, told to keep quiet "while investigations were continuing" but in a very intimidating manner. Media blackout; the mainstream USA media have ignored any witnesses who go against the official story, and generall called them "kooks", etc. They did the same tactic during the Watergate scandal, and other occassions. Harrassment of academics; this has happened too much, and too many times, to be denied. Harrassment of whistleblowers for other crimes; remember what happened to those people in the government who blew the whistle on the WMDs in Iraq lies? They didn't only lose their jobs, they were harrassed and insulted publicly, called "liars", "attention seekers", and "kooks".
Take a look at who controls the media. Do you think they'll give any face time to anybody who wants to speak out about the truth?
I regret giving any more attention to conspiracy theories, but I have to say that I agree with you, widehead. The number of people that would be necessary in order to pull off a conspiracy of this magnitude is so huge that the likelihood of ALL of them keeping to themselves one of the biggest secrets ever is reduced to a very low order of probability. Intuition and conspiracy theories seem to be mutually exclusive.
{The number of people that would be necessary in order to pull off a conspiracy by Applerod on Tue Aug 29, 06 11:02am} I doubt it would be anymore difficult than hiding most other major secret intelligence operations which we never hear about until years, decades later. The NSA apparently was founded in 1949, and had more staff than the CIA, a greater budget, more facilities, and it was hidden from the USA public for nearly FORTY YEARS. Until the late 1980s, the average person didn't have a clue that the NSA even existed! More recently, the Iran-Contra conspiracy managed to be hidden for a while too, and the first whistleblowers to that were harassed and insulted in the USA media too. When sceptics said that the WMDs in Iraq claims were lies, they were harassed and insulted by the shills too. The USA news media went along with the lies like trained poodles.
Hours or maybe even days after 9/11 these people were shipped off to area 51 and locked in a building with all the dead alien bodies and UFO's. The people you see walking around now are body doubles with no memory of the event.
Apparently George "the moron" Bush is too stupid to spell or speak right and the US government is moronic, but somehow they managed to not only pull off the greatest act of deceit in the last 100 years, but they managed to keep hundreds and most likely thousands of people quite. Amazing! Simply amazing! Wide my man, you ask a brilliant question!
{Apparently George "the moron" Bush is too stupid to spell or speak right ..by Beauregard on Tue Aug 29, 06 3:46pm} Does Dick Cheney act moronic? Does Rumsfeld act moronic? What about Perle? Wolfowitz? What about the rest? Dumbya is far from the only person there isn;t he? He has Daddy's best friends and advisors all around him. Your excuse fell flat and died before you began typing.
{Hours or maybe even days after 9/11 these people were shipped off to area 51 ... by mindy on Tue Aug 29, 06 1:35pm} Common aspects of the Coincidence Theorist NUMBER 14. The coincidence theorist attempts to use the false ascribing to the other person of more impossible beliefs than their own in order to make their own impossible coincidences seem more likely by comparison. Didn't work, dear.
{Apparently George "the moron" Bush is too stupid to spell or speak right ..by Beauregard on Tue Aug 29, 06 3:46pm} Does Dick Cheney act moronic? Does Rumsfeld act moronic? What about Perle? Wolfowitz? What about the rest? Dumbya is far from the only person there isn;t he? He has Daddy's best friends and advisors all around him. Your excuse fell flat and died before you began typing. by Lovelynice on Tue Aug 29, 06 5:17pm Excuse me, but are you at all capable of being civil? Do you have to be such a nasty snot-nose all the time? No wonder no one on here can stand you. Get help. You're really a nasty thing.
God! Look at you Lovelynice! You are just a disgusting person. It has to be said. You are just a miserable, sad and lonely jerk. You just can't respond to people in any manner other than that of a royal jerk. You don't belong here. Almost everyone can get along, but you just can't seem to be pleasant to anyone. Do you think we want you here? No, not at all. Sorry, but we've all just had about enough of your attitude. Go some place else.
well, coldcircuit you apparently have not been, but your alias/friends such as lovelynice, meteor7, tank_girl, etc certainly have been. I'm not trying to shut people up. What I have stated is what some users are doing like lovelynice who post things like this as a choice on a 9/11 ballot: Corrupt is a shill, a lie whore on $12.50 an hour to betray America.
Well, to be clear, we must concede that there was a conspiracy among at least 19 men who hijacked four large commercial jet aircraft.
I was being sarcastic lovely. I just should have come out and said what I really think, you're full of sh*t.
{lovelynice who post things like this as a choice on a 9/11 ballot: Corrupt is a shill, a lie whore on $12.50 an hour to betray America. by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Tue Aug 29, 06 6:08pm} I never posted that. So that's a strawman argument.
{but your alias/friends such as lovelynice, meteor7, tank_girl, by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Tue Aug 29, 06 6:08pm} and I have no other usernames on this site.
{ Excuse me, but are you at all capable of being civil... by Beauregard on Tue Aug 29, 06 5:24pm} are you? You just spent another entire post on making a personal attack.
{God! Look at you Lovelynice... by Beauregard on Tue Aug 29, 06 5:33pm} and you make another entire post that is only for a personal attack. The mud sticks mostly to the thrower. You're getting messy with all that mud you keep throwing.
{Well, to be clear, we must concede that there was a conspiracy among at least 19 men who hijacked four large commercial jet aircraft. by Tode1 on Tue Aug 29, 06 6:15pm} Really, and you have photos of them on the planes right? And you have their names, not the names of other people who are still alive and were never on those planes. You do have these things do you? So, how did they place the demolition charges in the WTC buildings? How did the fake the cellphone calls?
^ They are not personal attacks. See if I was saying things that were untrue about you, that would be a personal attack. But the fact is everything I'm saying is true and can easily be read by all of us. Its in the public domain. You learn to behave like a normal person and I will stop pointing out your reprehensbile beahvior. If not, I will continue to show everyone how you treat people. Here are just a few You do know that using multiple usernames will get you booted from the site by Lovelynice on Tue Aug 29, 06 10:38am Dumb excuse.by Lovelynice on Mon Aug 21, 06 12:19am I'm really disgusted with your lying. I guess other people are disgusted with your lying too. by Lovelynice on Mon Aug 21, 06 1:23pm Your bullshit excuse about window washers and couriers even recognising what was going on, let alone seeing it, shows up that all you were doing was using them as "filler" for your excuse. by Lovelynice on Wed Aug 23, 06 3:24pm No change, Mr Bullshit Lying Shill by Lovelynice on Wed Aug 23, 06 3:32pm Great, you were dumb enough to cite wikipedia as a source. Well, the piece of crap online pedia that ANY IDIOT CAN EDIT got it wrong. by Lovelynice on Wed Aug 23, 06 8:59pm es, they do exist. You are an ignorant fool. by Lovelynice on Thu Aug 24, 06 9:57am Also your BULLSHIT about "didn't fall at freefall speeds" is just a strawman argument, because nobody in this ballot debate has actually said that they did. WE ON THE 9/11 SCEPTICS SIDE HAVE ALL SAID THAT THE BUILDINGS WENT DOWN AT CLOSE TO FREEFALL - NOT AT "FREEFALL". By trying to pretend that we're saying something which we aren't, you destroy your own credibility. by Lovelynice on Fri Aug 25, 06 6:07am Nobody can trust what you say anyway, as all you do is LIE all the time. by Lovelynice on Fri Aug 25, 06 10:43am Trying to blame Tank_Girl for a post by Ken_from_Dublin only shows that you are so used to lying, that reality is becoming meaningless to you. by Lovelynice on Sun Aug 27, 06 9:57pm
^ See a pattern? Stop being this way and we'll stop exposing you.
The pattern I see is every 9/11 ballot that starts as a pretty good debate spiraling downward into a downright entertaining flame war. That aside, this is one of the reasons that I don't believe 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government.
"We represent the ever growing truth. Almost every major event in history is a conspiracy or a lie or a fraud or a scam. We will keep educating you until you evolve from being sheeple to people." by GrassyKnoll on Tue Aug 29, 06 8:19am Oh dear, oh dear. As the last vestiges of sanity slip away we are confronted by the true face of conspiracy theorists - EVERYTHING IS A LIE.
Oh one more thing.... IF it has been possible to gag, intimidate or silence so many, many people why on earth haven't the conspiracy theorists been silenced? No one seems to care about the "truth being exposed" on the internet or other media - "Loose Change" the mother of all b*llsh*t movies is probably going to get a theatrical release.... So why, why, why hasn't anyone bothered to shut them up I wonder?
"I'm not worried in the slightest that they'll probably kill me too because of what I'm about to tell you..." by Coldcircuit on Tue Aug 29, 06 6:38am This sarcastic retort from Coldcircuit highlights my point precisely. If we are to believe the conspiracy theorists thousand sof people are fearing for their lives - not so Avery, Rowe and Bermas the guys behind "Loose Change". They can be seen lording it up at ground zero harrassing victims families, taking part in many, many radio interviews and generally whoring themselves for every penny they get from their DVDs and hopeful theatrical release of their movie. These are just three guys out of hundreds who, if what they were saying is true, would be the first people to disappear off the map. WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO REVEAL THE TRUTH WHILST OTHERS FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES?
"thousand sof people are fearing for their lives -by wideheadofknowledge on Tue Aug 29, 06 11:39pm" You're slightly prone to exagerration I've noticed It doesn't require "thousands of people" to know the ENTIRE STORY, now does it? How may does it really require? Possibly less than a dozen, and only a hundred or so would know enough ot their little piece of the operation to think it might be suspicious..
And you have evaded my point nicely thanks.
Does the guy driving the truck need to know the whole story of the conspiracy? Does the courier delivering mail need to know the whole story of the conspiracy? Do the paramedics treating the injured survivors at the WTC need to know the whole conspiracy - if ANY OF IT? Do the doctors at the hospitals who treated the wounded from the WTC need to know the whole conspiracy - if ANY OF IT? Does every single staff member of the FBI, CIA, and whatever else need to know the WHOLE STORY of the conspiracy, or even if there was one?
And again, mu point is evaded. Well done.
You can't make a convincing argument for hundreds of people being involved. Your points weren't evaded, they were shot down.
Oh of course they were! Even if someone played a small part and were therefore not aware AT THE TIME it wouldn't take a genius to realise what had happened as the events unfolded. You can't aim high enough to shoot anything down.
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