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Hard to see how it would require hundreds of people to know the whole operation or even know that they were being used in any kind of conspiracy or illegal activity.
yeah it is hard to see with your eyes closed.
Just explain how they persuaded forensic investigators and DNA analysts to lie about what they found at the scene and the samples they analysed.
Or how about the thousands of people who must have heard the explosive charges being drilled into the twin towers in order for it to be demolished.
Or what about the FBI and CIA agents and field operatives?
The Heads of NORAD, the USAAF, the CEOs of airline companies, the passengers that must have disembarked when the planes were swapped for drones or missles or whatever?
Um, the guy who fired the missile at the Pentagon?
The people who faked the cellphone calls?
Maybe none knew what they were doing before but their particular piece of the puzzle would be plain for anyone to see once the events of 9-11 transpired. And you think that they ALL kept silent for money or fear or some other reason?
Again I ask you: Why are so many people afraid to speak out but no-one in power gives a flying f*ck about such whistle blowers as the makers of "Loose Change"? And they are hardly laying low.
{Just explain how they persuaded forensic investigators and DNA analysts to lie ...by wideheadofknowledge on Wed Aug 30, 06 5:29am}
Let's go through every one of these claims one at a time....
What exactly would the DNA analysts need to lie about?
The idea that a conspiracy occured and there hasn't been a leak is ridiculous.
{he idea that a conspiracy occured and there hasn't been a leak is ridiculous.
by Noblese_Oblige on Wed Aug 30, 06 6:38am}
They said the same thing about the Iran-Contra conspiracy... conspiracies happen, leaks don't occur instantly from the very first day - people might not speak out for years.
This thread is almost the same as the one I posted last week titled "9/11 A conspiracy without conspirators". Thanks Coldcircuit for keeping the flame of rationality burning on this web site.
Hang on, that was meant to go on the previous thread. Oops. Thats the biggest mistake since my Cruise Missile missed the White House and hit the Pentagon.
As I said, let's go through every one of these claims one at a time....
What exactly would the DNA analysts need to lie about?
{"9/11 A conspiracy without conspirators". Thanks Coldcircuit for keeping the flame of rationality burning on this web site.
by Searchlight on Wed Aug 30, 06 8:50am}
Except that Coldcircuit is a 9/11 sceptic and doesn't believe the Official Lies either, and on that ballot (like nearly all of the 9/11 ballots) the sceptics dominate the votes and show that the vast majority of people internationally don't believe the Official Lies about 9/11.
What exactly would the DNA analysts need to lie about?
by Lovelynice on Wed Aug 30, 06 4:21pm
Well, let's see.
When taking a sample from a charred body or fragment they would have to compare that with a close family member.
Now, unless you are suggesting that the passengers were burned to death somewhere other than the crash sites, the analysts would have had to deliberately mis-identify the remains.
Remember they weren't identifying blood samples they were identifying the charred and broken remains of people you seem to deny were there.
"When taking a sample from a charred body or fragment they would have to compare that with a close family member. by wideheadofknowledge on Wed Aug 30, 06 11:45pm"
That's not an accurate answer. The people taking the DNA samples from the charred body or fragment are very unlikely to be the same individuals taking DNA samples from the relatives.
Who would give them the DNA samples from the relatives?
Were all of the people identified by DNA? 100%?
Also those taking DNA samples from the bodies/fragments are very unlikely to be taking those samples in the crash site. They'd do it elsewhere.
The people analysiing the DNA for comparison are also very unlikely to be the same individuals who took the samples. The normal standard practice is to send DNA samples to a lab. The people in the lab would not be at the crash site, they would not have seen the crash site, they would not have seen the bodies the samples were taken from, they would not be able to confirm that the samples were taken from the people that they were told that the samples were taken from.
That's an enormous amount of anonymity, with enourmous opportunity for falsification and swapping of samples.
Were 100% of all victims identified by DNA?
To be more accurate were 100% of all victims at the Pentagon alleged crash site and the Pennsylvania alleged crash site identified by DNA?
My tin hat... is a very very very fine hat! It's shiny and it just fits so nice...
sing it with me now!
Coldcircuit, for God's sake look it up yourself! Why do you need me to copy and paste the data?
From my memory - all but 3 passengers from the pentagon crash were identified and all of the flight 93 passengers were identified.
If you look hard enough you even find pictures of the charred and broken remains.
"From my memory - all but 3 passengers from the pentagon crash were identified and all of the flight 93 passengers were identified.
by wideheadofknowledge on Thu Aug 31, 06 10:50pm"
Do you have some sources saying that? since you said it in a way as if you were unsure.
The dead bodies are only that, dead bodies. If you're talking about the Pentagon site, they could be only photos of dead Pentagon staff, not from the huge passenger jet which the government of the USA has avoided producing any videos to prove that a huge passenger jet crashed into the Pentagon.
The DNA is the most important thing; if all were identified on Flight 93, then that would include the hijacker's DNA too wouldn't it? I wonder how they obtained DNA samples from their relatives when nobody knows who the hijackers were?
The victims were identified.
And yes the passengers in the pentagon - unless you expect us to believe that some shadowy organisation burned the victims elsewhere and passed charred remains onto the forensic team?
And yes, there are sources - I "seemed unsure" because I was using my memory.
You have the internet coldcircuit - look it up yourself. I wholeheartedly urge you to find the sources and not to rely on what someone posts on here.
What makes you think that it was such a "large scale operation?"
It could have been a very small scale operation that had BIG results.
It didn't take too many people to bring down the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
{ You have the internet coldcircuit - look it up yourself.
by wideheadofknowledge on Fri Sep 01, 06 7:21pm}
This is called "I give up and I don't have any sources for my claim", in other words, widehead is nervous that maybe there is NO EVIDENCE for what he claimed at all. Or he looked, and discovered that it wouldn't stand scrutiny.
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