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ARE THE TWO FOX JOURNALISTS WHO WERE KIDNAPPED COWARDS?

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ARE THE TWO FOX JOURNALISTS WHO WERE KIDNAPPED COWARDS?


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created Sun Sep 03, 06

And symbols of why the West is losing in the struggle with Islamo-fascism?

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Yesterday, David Warren, a columnist for Real Clear Politics and The Ottawa Citizen, attacked Centanni and Wiig (the two kidnapped journalists)for being cowards and "men without chests" and said that they illustrate so much of what is wrong with the West and why we are losing to the Islamofascists:

"The case of the two Fox News journalists, held hostage in Gaza, is worth dwelling upon. . . .

The degree to which our starch is awash is exhibited in the behaviour of so many of our captives, but especially in these two. They were told to convert to Islam under implicit threat (blindfolded and hand-tied, they could not judge what threat), and agreed to make the propaganda broadcasts to guarantee their own safety. That much we can understand, as conventional cowardice. (Understand; not forgive.) But it is obvious from their later statements that they never thought twice; that they could see nothing wrong in serving the enemy, so long as it meant they'd be safe. . . .

I assume they are not Christians (few journalists are), but had they ever been instructed in that faith, they might have grasped that conversion to Islam means denial of Christ, and that is something many millions of Christians (few of them intellectuals) have refused to do, even at the cost of excruciating deaths . . .

And the two Fox journalists, whom I will not stoop to name, begged for their lives even though, in retrospect, their lives probably weren't in danger. . . . Men without chests, men without character, men who don't think twice."

Warren argues that the cowardice of the two Fox journalists in saving their own lives illustrates why we are losing the War of Civilizations -- because of what Warren calls the "Chestlessness" of our "men." As Warren puts it: "That is the substance of most Islamo-fascist propaganda: that the West consists of straw men, of men without chests, of men easily pushed over." To Warren, the cowardly chestlessness of Western men is why "the West is proving unable to cope with a threat from a fanatical Islamic movement, that it ought to be able to snuff out with fair ease." (Unclaimed Territory, Glenn Greenwald)

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Do you agree with this conservative commentator, that the two kidnapped Fox journalists are cowards and symbols of what is wrong with the West in the struggle with Islamo-fascism?

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COMMENTS:
Voted : No
I'd like to see if the guy who wrote that article, when bound and threatened by terrorists, would do what he reccomends the "cowardly" FOX journalists do.
by himself809 on Sun Sep 03, 06 9:08pm [+]

Like many on the right, they holler and condemn until its time for them to stand up and put themselves in harms way.
by Steelhamster on Sun Sep 03, 06 9:44pm [+]

Interesting topic, cowardice. I'd argue that they might be cowards; but, were definitely being pragmatists. Given the option, they probably thought things would go better for them if they did what they were told. In that respect, I can understand what THEY did; although I would have a hard time respecting MYSELF, if I made the same decision. If I was in the same situation, I'm pretty sure that I would NOT think things would go better for me if I did what I was told. But, then again, I don't think this life is all there is. So, I'd take a slightly different tactic; but, I wouldn't want to die, as himself809 has alluded. I hope I could look them in the eye, and say (as humbly as possible), "You're going to do what you want, and what position am I in to stop you? Don't get me wrong gentlemen, (addressing the captors) I really would prefer not to die TODAY; but, if today then so be it. Regardless of what you say, I cannot do EVERYTHING you are telling me to do. Let me see the transcript of what you want me to read. Depending on what it says, I might read it. But, I'm not converting this way, nor would I try to convert YOU with coercion." You see, himself809, imo, process is an end in itelf. This is the second time today that I've quoted Patrick Henry:
"What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have?
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased
at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God."
Now, if a guy thinks there is nothing worse than death? Yep. Do what they tell you. If he thinks what they are telling him to do will not play into the thing that is worse than death? Again, do what they say. But, if he's being asked to compromise the very thing that HE personally is living for, he won't do what they say, there would be no reason because then he would have nothing left for which to live.
Let me give you an example:
Suppose they captured these two guy's mothers with them. Suppose they said, "shoot your mother, and we'll let you live?" My guess is TADA! Bravery.
by contragrain on Sun Sep 03, 06 10:02pm [+]

Voted : No
David Warren is a grade A asshole who has no idea what he would do in that situation.Those men had their lives threatened and they did what any rational person would do,preserve their life at all cost.I would do the same thing if it ment I could walk away alive.
by Corrupt on Mon Sep 04, 06 8:42am [+]

I suspect that this guy is only attacking the two reporters based upon the company that they work for. The real coward is the author of this piece.
by Noblese_Oblige on Mon Sep 04, 06 10:35am [+]

Voted : No
This is typical of the chickenhawk mentality of some people. Anyone who calls other people a coward but who has not faced the same sort of dangers is a bombastic fool.
by Searchlight on Mon Sep 04, 06 10:36am [+]

Voted : No
But their kidnappers certainly are.
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Mon Sep 04, 06 12:59pm [+]

Voted : No
I might not care for Fox and their personnel on a professional level, I won't condone this moron's comments. Let him open his trap after *he's* been kidnapped.
by Truthseeker013 on Mon Sep 04, 06 2:02pm [+]

What did you want them to do stick there heads on the cutting board and told them to do it. They were brave for being over there in the first place. How many of you cowards would run to Canada instead of fighting.
by hurricane on Tue Sep 05, 06 7:50am [+]

I think its reasonable for them to convert and cooperate in order to save their own lives. However once they returned to safety they should have denounced their captives rather than become apologists for Islam.
by danny_mack on Wed Sep 06, 06 12:34am [+]






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