CONDI SAYS THE IRAQ WAR IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THE U.S. CIVIL WAR. AGREE?

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CONDI SAYS THE IRAQ WAR IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THE U.S. CIVIL WAR. AGREE?


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ACTIVE Wed Sep 06, 06 - Mon Jun 01, 09

Condi uses Civil War to slap Iraq critics

Secretary of State Rice compared the Iraq war with the American Civil War, telling a magazine that slavery might have lasted longer in this country if the North had decided to end the fight early.

"I'm sure there are people who thought it was a mistake to fight the Civil War to its end and to insist that the emancipation of slaves would hold," Rice said in the new issue of Essence magazine.

"I know there were people who said, 'Why don't we get out of this now, take a peace with the South, but leave the South with slaves?'" Rice said.

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Do you agree with Condi Rice, that Bush's Iraq War and the American Civil War are comparable?

Yes, Iraq and the Civil War are practically the same thing
No, I think Condi is stretching things a bit there
"Essence" is notorious for quoting people out of context, like it did here.


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COMMENTS:
The source is the New York Daily News.
by cranky on Wed Sep 06, 06 6:52am [+]

Voted : No, I think Condi is stretching things a bit there
They have no shame when it comes to selling their War.
by Cathexis on Wed Sep 06, 06 6:55am [+]

She compared the critics of each war, NOT the war.

Rice then offered a parallel between critics of the administration's Iraq policies and "people who thought it was a mistake to fight the Civil War (in this country) to its end and to insist that the emancipation of slaves would hold." MSNBC

Whether that is accurate or not is the question. The question as posed in this ballot is misleading and inaccurate.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Sep 06, 06 6:57am [+]

^So she was knowingly comparing critics of two totally different things?

That's rich. I think somebody else is stretching things a bit.
by cranky on Wed Sep 06, 06 7:09am [+]

... I suppose comparing the two would be accurate ... if the US Civil War was about an attempt to free the slaves by attacking Belgium.
by Cathexis on Wed Sep 06, 06 7:21am [+]

Voted : No, I think Condi is stretching things a bit there
awww I love that Alfie song!!!
by Jyl on Wed Sep 06, 06 7:39am [+]

That's not exactly what she said. But, your wording in the ballot creates a forum for your agenda.
by Black_Lava on Wed Sep 06, 06 7:50am [+]

"In June, CNN and USA Today separately asked Americans -- not Democrats and not left-wing bloggers -- whether they favor a "timetable" or "plan" for withdrawing from Iraq. Fifty-three percent said yes to CNN, and 57 percent said yes to USA Today. Both polls were taken shortly after the killing of al Qaeda terror chief Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the latest advertised "turning point" in the war.

Those jaundiced views of the war have not changed over the past two months. ABC News and The Washington Post jointly conducted a poll last week that asked whether Americans approve or disapprove of the Bush administration's handling of "the situation in Iraq." Thirty-six percent approve, while 62 percent do not.

That same ABC/Washington Post poll found 59 percent felt the war had not been worth the cost, 64 percent felt the Bush administration had no clear plan for victory, and 53 percent felt the number of U.S. troops in Iraq should be decreased. By a plurality of 38 percent, respondents said that a congressional candidate who supports the Bush policy would be "less likely" to get their vote. Most remarkably, although 66 percent said that Democrats have no clear position on the war, a slight plurality of 43 percent said they trust Democrats more than Republicans to do "a better job" in Iraq. (Joe Conason)

I doubt seriously if the "critics" of the Lincoln Administration had feelings such as those expressed by a majority of the American people toward the Bush Administration.

Cheerleader Condi, as well as the rest of the "Save Bush's Sinking Ship" crew are trying to make out that there are a small number of vocal critics, sitting at the margins of American politics, hooting about the war. The truth is, the majority of the people in the U.S., in some cases an overwhelming majority, have serious doubts about both Bush and the Iraq War.
by cranky on Wed Sep 06, 06 9:45am [+]

First of all we committed an atrocity by invading another country. Now, we compare their civil war to ours! Damn.
by Guest User from [65.217.153.100] on Wed Sep 06, 06 9:48am [+]

Voted : Comment ----
No. Condi, like all Bush appointees has as her first value loyalty to the President. When she compares the Iraq war to the Civil War she is wrong. So are Bush, Rumsfield, and Cheney when they try to portray people who oppose their use of American military might as the moral equivalent of people who were soft on fascism before WWII. These people are off the hook.
by margaret123 on Wed Sep 06, 06 9:51am [+]

We had no business invading another country. For what? weapons? Where are they? Now we are causing more misery to those people, dividing them, ... Our foreign policy sucks.
by One_Truth on Wed Sep 06, 06 10:08am [+]

Voted : No, I think Condi is stretching things a bit there
She would have made a fine O.J juror
by Guest User from [66.85.18.129] on Wed Sep 06, 06 10:14am [+]

Voted : Comment ----
I think Condi just proved why she shouldn't be let outside her front door. If she'd mentioned somethign in regard to the actual war, I might not be so hard on her. You know, about the struggle among the various provinces in Iraq? Does anyone have her e-mail addy? Is it still under the sesamestreet.tv domain?
by Truthseeker013 on Wed Sep 06, 06 8:20pm [+]

The war in Iraq and the American Civil War are not even close in any way that I can determine. Let me see, 'Americans fight one another over primarily the states Rights issue, (slavery was a part of that issue, only), and the U.S. invades a small country without peovocation. What?
by xhiker on Mon Sep 11, 06 1:35pm [+]

^oops! provocation, I meant to say
by xhiker on Mon Sep 11, 06 1:36pm [+]






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