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SHOULD THE REST OF THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES FOLLOW THE SCANDINAVIAN MODEL O

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SHOULD THE REST OF THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES FOLLOW THE SCANDINAVIAN MODEL O


[+] serious ballot by ilmari
created Thu Sep 07, 06

The Scandinavian social system is based on the strong idea of people being equal in social, gender and financial issues. In practice this means that scandinavian citizens are entitled to monthly subsidies to everyone from babies to grannies, totally free education( unis included , and completely free healthcare and people enjoy the highest standard of living in the world This has been enabled by a multiparty system, corporatism and strong consensus about politics used between MPs and the people.
On the contrast, the scandis pay taxes up to 40 % and have pay taxes progressively ( the more you earn, the bigger your tax per cent ).

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We should learn something from them.
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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes
I was skeptical until you tossed in that tax bit. Truth like. Truth *liiiiiiike*...
by Truthseeker013 on Thu Sep 07, 06 5:14pm [+]

Voted : No
Whoever would want to work?!
by Black_Lava on Thu Sep 07, 06 5:32pm [+]

Voted : We should learn something from them.
It always puzzles me when Americans cry out against "socialized medicine." It is our money, as the President keeps telling us. Why shouldn't we provide healthcare for the poor? I'm truly at a loss to explain the people, many who are poor, who rail against this. I guess it tells us how good the propaganda machine of the rich is.
by margaret123 on Thu Sep 07, 06 7:49pm [+]

I think one reason why alot of people rail against it is because of fear of low quality health care. Like you mentioned, margaret, many of them are poor and have experience with the low quality doctors that they're forced to use because they're the only ones that accept Medicade. Also, there's the fear that government (or state) paid doctors will be more influenced by the powers that be (pharma companies, corporate medicine, etc..) and less influenced by their own patients' needs. They dont want to bite the hand that feeds them.
by Grumpy_Person on Thu Sep 07, 06 8:33pm [+]

Those of you who have read my comments know that I'm conservative (not necessarily Reublican) on many topics that are discussed here, but when it comes to the healthcare issue, I swing to the left. First of all, I think that anyone who has a catastrophic disease like Cancer, ALS, Multiple Sclerosis, Cystic Fibrosis, Muscular Dystrophy, Juvenile Diabetes, etc., or if you're a burn victim, etc., or if you suffer from mental retardation or blindness, etc., you should get free healthcare. That's right, I said free healthcare, and everything should be done to comfort these people to make their lives easier. Through no fault of their own, these people suffer, and I don't mind my tax dollars being used to help them. However, if you've smoked three packs of cigarettes for 30 years, and now you've got lung cancer, or you've eaten your way to the 500 pound category and now you have Heart Disease and/or type II Diabetes, or you've contracted AIDS through high-risk, unprotected sex, not one penny from the government (the tax payers).
by Bostonian on Fri Sep 08, 06 12:05am [+]

Mr. Grumpy: If you were poor, which would you prefer: Slow, bureaucratic, and poor medical help, or no help at all? I consider it an abomination that the richest country in the world, who gives massive tax breaks to the rich, refuses to help their least fortunate citizens.
While we are on the subject, the tax breaks given the rich translate into tax increases for the rest of us. We are left to pay the incredible debt that Mr. Bush is piling up.
by margaret123 on Fri Sep 08, 06 1:00pm [+]

Voted : No
Terrible idea. The Scandinavian countries are only doing okay because they have great human capital. They'd be doing great if they liberalized their economies.
by thc2883 on Fri Sep 08, 06 5:10pm [+]

Mr. Grumpy: If you were poor, which would you prefer: Slow, bureaucratic, and poor medical help, or no help at all?
by margaret123

I honestly can't answer that because I'm not currently in that situation. I do have a relative though who goes to Mexico for his medical treatment rather than use the doctors (cost free) that he's given here in the US. Some would argue that's better for him, some would argue that's as good as having no treatment at all. And another very good friend who's on the verge of having his cancer treatment terminated and letting it run it's course because he feels the treatments themselves are worse than dying.

The medical industry (of which we're paying customers) and the pharma companies are one reason why medical treatment in this country is so costly.
by Grumpy_Person on Sat Sep 09, 06 6:48am [+]

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