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Pick any reason (other than islam) given to explain away terrorism and these guys have it. Usually their grievences significantly outweigh those of actual terrorists.
Voted : Other
Because the Sudanese are redefining the words "crushed" and "beaten" every day. In volunteering for the Red Cross as I used to, I've met a great many refugees from that country, and they're all like spousal-abuse victims. Look at them hard and they cringe.
Voted : Other
Maybe the Sudanese are too afraid to provoke the Arabs to even greater outrages against them. Maybe they are practicing Christianity at its literal best. Maybe lots of things. It is disgusting that the world has not picked up this unbalanced insanity and done something about it.
I should have included as a follow up question: would you sympathize with them if these people were use terrorism against those who are trying to wipe them off the face of the earth?
Sudanese leader Bashir has ordered out the peacekeepers unless they receive their funding from either the Sudanese government and / or the Arab League. Since the genocide is being waged against black Africans, does anyone see a problem?
BTW herzog, the genocide is being waged by Muslims against Muslims in many cases, not just Christians and animists. Nevertheless, the world sits idly by - unfortunately AS USUAL.
"Arab states are sending weapons, funds and jihadis to wipe them out, and are defending these actions in the UN preventing any meaningful intervention."
Which ones?
The ballot premise is false. The non-Arab Sudanese have fought back, using techhiques that the pro-war, military-avoiding neocons would classify as terrorism, if, of course, it was done by Muslims.
(herzie ballot category" "Muslim Bashing")
Voted : Maybe Islam has something to do with terrorism
We hear the Islamic apologists, clerics and militants claim "we are fighting the west because they are killing muslims". Its always the Muslims that must be rescued and defended from the infidels. No other peoples. They have no human compassion for the Maori in New Zealand, the Aboringinies in Australia, the Native Indians of South, Central and North America. They never cared about the racial strife in apartied South Africa, the black Africans there wern't Muslim. What about the genocide in Rwanda? No the Hutus and the Tutis there wern't Muslims either. How about Islam helping the oppressed Tamil people of Sri Lanka? Nope, they are virtually all Hindu.
No, It seems only Muslims in Islam must benefit from other Muslims, whether they are being oppressed or oppressing others.
And the ballot also contains an error in fact: The Arabs that Mr. Neocon refers to are largely native Sudanese, also, although I'm sure it helps with the propaganda effect if it appears that the Arabs are foreign invaders.
'"Arab states are sending weapons, funds and jihadis to wipe them out, and are defending these actions in the UN preventing any meaningful intervention."
Which ones?'
The ones hiding under herzog's bed.
"It is disgusting that the world has not picked up this unbalanced insanity and done something about it."
"The world", Margaret? The world never does anything. The United States is the only one who does anything, and when we do we get criticized and accused of trying to be the "policemen of the world."
Voted : Other
So you would support terrorism if its the Herzog approved type of terrorism?
Jinn: We hear the Islamic apologists, clerics and militants claim "we are fighting the west because they are killing muslims". Its always the Muslims that must be rescued and defended from the infidels. No other peoples. They have no human compassion for the Maori in New Zealand, the Aboringinies in Australia, the Native Indians of South, Central and North America. They never cared about the racial strife in apartied South Africa, the black Africans there wern't Muslim. What about the genocide in Rwanda? No the Hutus and the Tutis there wern't Muslims either. How about Islam helping the oppressed Tamil people of Sri Lanka? Nope, they are virtually all Hindu.
No, It seems only Muslims in Islam must benefit from other Muslims, whether they are being oppressed or oppressing others.
Do you make this stuff up as you go along?
I have been an activist for 25 years, andthe conflicts you mention have all been commented upon.
I have been on protests on at least half of them.
You seem to have an agenda that I cannot quite fathom, I can only assume a muslim bullied you at school.
Mr. Bostonian: I do agree that most nations seem to lack the will to solve problems in other nations. There may be many reasons for that, chief among them is that they may lack the resources (a position that we are now approaching in our tenure as the world's policeman), or the courage. I also agree that it falls to America, as the world's sole superpower to be this policeman. It is also true that while everyone needs the police, no one wants them coming to their parties. So, I guess my question is why we haven't policed the Sudanese outrage?
Good for you Steelhamster. But you have not disproved my point about Islam's agenda.
And by the way, you are no more a Muslim than I am.
'So you would support terrorism if its the Herzog approved type of terrorism? '
Nope, and I never said I would, find where I did.
However, there are plenty of people on this site who regurally defend terrorists for a variety of reasons (walk in their shoes, what did we do to deserve this, they're only attacking us because they're poor and it's our fault, etc). And I've got a feeling that if the tables were turned they would not defend these terrorists out to kill arab women and children as they have defended arab terrorists out to kill our women adn children.
Herzog: Perhaps you should reread your own introduction to this ballot and some of your comments.
Jinn: You have not proven otherwise,you just seem to trot out one fear filled rant after the other
'Herzog: Perhaps you should reread your own introduction to this ballot and some of your comments.'
I have. In fact I became quite familiar with those passages when I wrote them. And not a one says that terrorism is a good idea. I merely used the same arguments used by other members on this site and applied it to a new situation.
Careful, you might crash into things with all that back pedalling.
Alright steel, let's end this right now: find where I said terrorism was a good thing.
If it was so obvious and I'm now backpedaling away from those statements they should be easy to find. Go.
They are weak and unable to fight back using military force. They have seen enough of their friends and families murdered by these savages to feel enough hate to make them willing to fight back. So why no terrorism?
They have all the justifications used by terrorists, so they should be blowing up arab women and children indiscriminately. Why aren't they?
The phrase about barrels, fish and a firearm comes to mind....
Um no steel, as I pointed out those are the exact terms people on this site (people like you) use to excuse islamic terrorism.
I unequivocably denounce terrorists as evil murdering scum and some leftwing user comes along with 'oh but herzog you just don't understand, they're poor and oppressed and we made them do it'.
I was using your own justifications against you.
Now, if it's ok for muslims why is it not ok for non-muslims? You believe terrorism is caused by poverty, oppression, genocide, then shouldnt these people be terrorists? Or perhaps there is something beyond the big three catchall leftwing excuses. Perhaps, islam itself plays a role in terrorism?
And like I said, find a quote where I *support* terrorism.
Voted : Other
Do they even have the money or technology to?
by Kiki on Thu Oct 19, 06 3:28pm
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