search this site: search the web:
LCD recommends Bestandworst.com. he requests, no DEMANDS, your presence here!

EUROPE BEGINNING TO WAKE UP TO THE THREAT OF ISLAMIC EXTREMISM

user ballots

political :

EUROPE BEGINNING TO WAKE UP TO THE THREAT OF ISLAMIC EXTREMISM


[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Mon Sep 11, 06

On the fifth anniversary of the 11 September attacks against the US, Europeans agree with Americans that terrorism inspired by Muslim fundamentalism is a big threat to their lives.

That new fear, combined with alarm at the conflicts on Europe's doorstep in the Middle East and serious European doubts about US global leadership, means Europe as a whole is marking the anniversary in a mood of pessimism and uncertainty.

That is reflected in the statements of European leaders on the anniversary.

The government of Finland, which now holds the presidency of the 25-nation European Union, condemned all forms of terrorism, saying that "no cause, no grievance, can justify" any terrorist acts.

But Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel, echoing European anguish over reports of secret CIA jails and alleged torture in Europe, said: "Our battle against Islamic terrorism will only succeed if we cultivate respect for human rights."

Europe's double disillusionment - with its US ally and with the reported growth of fanatically violent Muslim groups in its towns and cities - is apparent from opinion polls.

A survey in the US and 12 European countries, released a few days ago by the German Marshall Fund of the US, found that disapproval of US handling of international affairs among Europeans had reached a new peak of 77%.

Europeans are also much more fearful of Islamic fundamentalism, with 56% now identifying it as an "extremely important" threat (compared with 58% of Americans), and another 34% seeing it as an "important threat" (Americans 31%). Bombs in Europe

Five years ago, the French newspaper Le Monde coined the phrase "We are all Americans now" to express Europe's overwhelming sympathy with the US after the attacks on New York and Washington.

That emotional bond and sense of solidarity largely evaporated in the years that followed, as European public opinion turned against America's way of conducting the "war on terror" - especially the invasion of Iraq and human rights abuses associated with the Abu Ghraib prison and Guantanamo Bay detention camp. Europeans had to face the discovery that the 11 September al-Qaeda plot was planned by a group of militant Arab Muslim youths in the German city of Hamburg.

But at first a belief persisted that European countries would not be targeted, provided they did not actively help the US army in Iraq.

European governments began building common defences against acts of terror, including a cross-border European arrest warrant.

But it was not enough. The deaths of 191 people in the Madrid train bombings of 2004 were followed by the killing of 52 innocent people in suicide bombings on London's transport system the next year.

Both outrages were found to be the work of young Muslims imbued with hatred for the West.

The London bombings marked the first case of Islamic suicide bombings in Europe. It also proved the existence of a "home-grown" terrorist threat: four of the bombers were young British Muslims of Pakistani descent.

In a pre-recorded video, one called himself a soldier who wanted to avenge "my Muslim brothers and sisters" in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. 'No-one immune'

Security experts believe Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network has inspired an unknown number of "self-starter" cells, many of them in Europe, each of which has a host of potential targets for attack. Recent threats include an announcement by German authorities of what they called evidence of the gravest threat so far: self-made suitcase bombs on passenger trains.

Danish police said they had seized chemicals that could be used to make bombs during the arrest of a group of young Muslim men suspected of planning a terrorist act.

And British security services exposed an alleged plot to blow up transatlantic passenger planes flying out of London's Heathrow Airport, with a loss of life which officials said could have been greater than in the attacks on New York's World Trade Center.

The UK's top anti-terrorism officer says the number of those suspected of actively supporting terrorism is "in the thousands".

In Europe, no country now thinks of itself as immune.

In an interview to mark this anniversary, France's leading anti-terrorism judge, Jean-Louis Bruguiere, said France was "indisputably" among the possible targets and the threat was still at a high level. The most recent evidence of the spread of what commentators have called a "cult of death" among alienated young Muslims in parts of Europe has sharpened the debate.

European governments, acting by themselves or together through the European Union, are taking steps to ensure that mosques are not used as places to foster political violence or to recruit people to extremist causes.

The search is on for a "European Islam", untainted by political fundamentalism.

Gulf

The British media, like others around Europe, recently printed many articles harshly condemning the ideology now being spread in the name of Islam.

David Selbourne, author of a book called The Losing Battle with Islam, wrote of Islam's "moral intransigence, its jihadist ethic and the refusal of most diaspora Muslims to 'share a common set of values' with non-Muslims".

And Dr Maha Azzam of Chatham House, a leading London-based think-tank, says al-Qaeda is facing a "very serious challenge to its legitimacy".

Because of its terrorist activities, Dr Azzam writes, al-Qaeda has also lost popularity in the Muslim world.

Yet a wide gulf still divides mainstream opinion among the non-Muslim majority in Europe and most of Europe's 15 million or more Muslims.

Muslims in Europe believe Islamophobia is on the rise.

The poll by the German Marshall Fund of the US found as many as 56% of all Europeans now see Islam as "not compatible with their democracy".

On that point, too, Europeans and Americans, for all their differences over foreign policy, now see things the same way.

BBC

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -- --

Read the whole thing.

Europe is starting to realize that they can't simply ignore their own homegrown muslim terrorists anymore. The riots and terrorist attacks have shown them that they are not safe, even those nations that scorn the US for fighting back and advocate a live and let live policy with terrorists are not immune to attack.

The importance europeans place on terrorism is higher than ever and they beginning to see the threat posed by the radical islamic population growing in their midst.

Do you think this will translate to a more aggressive approach to terrorism from a continent previously more willing sit by quietly and only react when directly attacked, or will they remain reluctant to act in the face of this growing threat?

This will lead to a more aggressive european stance against terrorism
Things will stay the same
They will ultimately become more timid
Too soon to say
Other

Ballot #101753 : SEE RESULTS

Comment:

show your vote with comment?

v 2.0 © BESTANDWORST.COM
smile bank:









similiar ballots:
111469. Was it easier to criticise Islamic extremism before or after 9/11 attacks?
111699. Islamic extremism more popular in Britain with the younger people?
94665. Europe taking steps to limit muslim extremism
97101. What's the main internal threat to established governments in the Islamic world?
112245. The Threat Factor: Was Iraq Really A Threat To The United States ?
115667. When you vote for an extremest government and you get extremism
115109. Survey: U.S. Muslims Assimilated, Opposed to Extremism
63994. "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue". Do you agree with this quote?
113039. what do you do to wake up?
65385. When you wake up in the morning


COMMENTS:
From a British perspective, I suspect British foreign policy will gradually become more timid, as contrary to whatever those polls may say public opnion is VERY MUCH against any further military conquests in ther Middle East.

However, I believe DOMESTIC policy will continue to grant further powers to Police and intrude further into peoples privacy in the name of combatting Terrorism.

At the moment though, I think most British people are just quite confused. They see the terrorist threat, and had great sympathy for the American nation after 9/11. But they also felt anger (and perhaps fear?) at the way the US has conducted itself in such matters in such matters as Guatenemo Bay (a clear slap in the face for human rights, and a step towards a police state) and Iraq. Obviously the British have infinitely more in common with America than any Muslim country, but a philospohy of £the ends justifying the means" is a dangerous one.
by lil_ape on Mon Sep 11, 06 9:58pm [+]

I have to say, your article seems strangely disjointed, with several gaps containing random words etc. Have you pieced together sections of multiple articles?
by lil_ape on Mon Sep 11, 06 9:59pm [+]

2and advocate a live and let live policy with terrorists"

I certainly dont recall anyone advocating THAT!
by lil_ape on Mon Sep 11, 06 10:01pm [+]

"Have you pieced together sections of multiple articles?"

Gosh golly, I can't imagine herzie cutting-and-pasting things out of context. IC_tune

(herzie ballot category: "Bash Europe")

MAG_afro
by cranky on Tue Sep 12, 06 6:18am [+]

Those nations that... advocate a live and let live policy with terrorists..."

Nonsense.

There aren't any nations that advocate a "live and let live" policy with terrorists. What drivel.

MAG_afro
by cranky on Tue Sep 12, 06 6:23am [+]

news. bbc.co .uk/ 2/hi/ americas/ 5336596.
stm

Lil ape, I copied it directly and in full but with the various headings and pictures in the way it sometimes screws up the text. That's the address for the article.
by herzog on Tue Sep 12, 06 7:02am [+]

Take out the spaces, and add h t t p to the beginng by not w3.
by herzog on Tue Sep 12, 06 7:02am [+]

lilape: britain isn't like this but mainland europe has certainly taken this approach to terrorism.

Maybe they're still burnt out from the last war, maybe they feel guilty about all the wrongs their ancestors committed, maybe they're terrified of the islamic hordes in their own countries and don't want to upset them but whatever the reason most of mainland europe has taken a very laid back approach to the whole thing, not wanting to get involved, not wanting to hurt anyone. And it hasn't protected them at all.

Odd that the US, since it went on this offensive, has not been hit by terrorists, but the parts of europe that have remained out of the conflict were hit.
by herzog on Tue Sep 12, 06 7:18am [+]

If there's one thing we've provided a stellar example of in the last 5 years, it's how not to counteract terrorism. Our "more aggressive" policy in Iraq has been a disaster and we've narrowed our options in that country to the point where the only question we can ask is: "How do we extricate ourselves while not making a horrible situation even worse for everyone?"

None of the major terrorist plots that I know of have been broken up through a policy of large-scale military preemption. They have been broken up through covert operations, and as such have not received much press while they were happening. But they have been effective and clearly represent a sound way of dealing with the problem, (disregarding other dimensions of the problem.)

All this being said, Bin Laden announced a few months ago that the next attack(s) are in the planning stage. I believe him, and the fact that we haven't been able to catch him speaks volumes about our counterterrorism strategy during the last five years.
by Applerod on Tue Sep 12, 06 11:32am [+]

About Us | Join Us | Privacy Policy |
© 2002-2008 BestAndWorst.com All Rights Reserved