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ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FINAL INVESTIGATION REPORT REGARDING 7 WTC?


[+] ballot by Jinn_the_Kafir
created Fri Sep 15, 06

Some of you may not know this, but the official 9/11 investigation study and report regarding the collapse of World Trade Center Building #7 has not yet been released. Not even in the initial official 9/11 report.

The initial 9/11 report on the collapse of the twin towers, which itself took 3 1/2 years to complete, actually specifies that a subsequent report regarding WTC 7 would be released at a later date, this being due to the massive attention thus far being directed towards the Twin Towers, which required all the scientific and investigative resources on hand. That report was finally released April 5, 2005.

The initial report, only makes a two paragraph comment on WTC 7, containing only a brief summary account as to what happened to that building, but obviously does not give any advance speculative report while the official investigation is pending. However, since the investigative report on the twin towers was released, all ivestigative resources have been working with great effort on the report for WTC 7, which is expected to be released in early 2007.

The selected groups chosen to investigate the collapse of WTC 7 are as follows: The Structural Engineering Institute of the Society of Civil Engineers, The American Institute of Steel Construction, The National Fire Protection Association, The Society of Fire Protection Engineers, The Council of Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, The Structural Engineers Association of New York, and The New York City Fire Department.

Without a doubt this will be a very thorough and professionally done report, don't you think?

Picture to right: Thermal imagery from satellite taken Sept. 16, 2001, five days after 9/11. Note the thermal image of WTC 7, which is located top and slightly to right of center. Photo courtesy of Earth Data International.

Anyway, are you looking forward to the final investigation report regarding 7 WTC?

Yes, I'm looking forward to it. I want the facts.
No, I'm sticking with the conspiracy theorist speculation. No report is needed.

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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes, I'm looking forward to it. I want the facts.
Oh, this will be good.
I bet they mention Saddam Hussein. IC_tune
by _Beelzebubba on Fri Sep 15, 06 2:04pm [+]

Voted, yes I'm looking forward to it. I want the facts, but doubt we'll get them in this whitewash.

Just like the 9/11 Omission report denied the existence of the 47 steel core columns in the twin towers, because they knew they were too strong to pnacake. (sic)
by Ken_from_Dublin on Fri Sep 15, 06 2:31pm [+]

That's some photo isn't it folks?

Absolute and utter devastation.

- Imagine a couple of small fires are supposed to have caused that!

- would you ever venture inside a skyscraper again if you really were stupid enough to believe that lie?

How gullible are some people? LOL!
by Ken_from_Dublin on Fri Sep 15, 06 2:40pm [+]

What will come out in the report is that terrorists were actually hiding inside WTC7, so that's why it was brought down.
by cranky on Fri Sep 15, 06 3:08pm [+]

the answer will depend on the politics at the time
by Lovelynice on Sat Sep 16, 06 10:29am [+]

The truth and the facts will be concluded and reported on by a large and well chosen group of experts, who are among the most and knowledgable and professional in the business.

But of course the report will not be welcomed by the expert conspiracy theorists of the True-Bowel Movement, the engineers of lies.
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Sat Sep 16, 06 9:36pm [+]

Poor Jinn, he hasn't a clue, the poor unfortunate lad is a monumental poster boy sucker to the lies of Bush and co. - corrupt liars who must be clinking their glasses of champagne in celebration of their (temporary, fingers crossed) triumph of gullibility and deception over rationality and the God given trust that they abused and betrayed.
by Ken_from_Dublin on Sat Sep 16, 06 10:57pm [+]

Voted : Yes, I'm looking forward to it. I want the facts.
Ken said - " Imagine a couple of small fires are supposed to have caused that! "

YOu can imagine that if you want Ken, I'll rely on what the firefighters had to say...

"I walked out and I got to Vesey and West, where I reported to Frank. He said, we’re moving the command post over this way. At this point, the fire was going virtually on every floor, heavy fire and smoke that really wasn’t bothering us when we were searching because it was being pushed southeast and we were a little bit west of that. I remember standing just where West and Vesey start to rise toward the entrance we were using in the World Financial Center. There were a couple of guys standing with me and a couple of guys right at the intersection, and we were trying to back them up – and here goes 7. It started to come down and now people were starting to run.

firehouse . com / terrorist / 911 / magazine / gz / visconti . html

by wolf_nipple_chips on Sun Sep 17, 06 3:33am [+]

The Structural Engineering Institute of the Society of Civil Engineers, The American Institute of Steel Construction, The National Fire Protection Association, The Society of Fire Protection Engineers, The Council of Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, The Structural Engineers Association of New York, and The New York City Fire Department.

They're all government shills are they Ken?
by wolf_nipple_chips on Sun Sep 17, 06 3:35am [+]

We'll see what they have to say about it - if it's another 9/11 Omission Report whitewash,
I'll be on here having a good laugh at the likes of you gleefully swallowing official tin foil hat bricks again.
by Ken_from_Dublin on Sun Sep 17, 06 11:42am [+]

Fireman Admits Again: 9-11 Inside Job

On the morning of September 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac, Jr. admitted yet again that 9-11 was an inside job. In fact, here is his exact quote to Lisa Guliani and myself: “I know 9-11 was an inside job, the police know it’s an inside job, and the firemen know it too.”

Think about the ramifications of this statement. One of New York’s own firefighters revealed publicly that 9-11 wasn’t the work of Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, but instead was planned, coordinated, and executed by elements within our own government. Isaacs also added, after pointing to throngs of police officers standing around us, that, “We all have to be very careful about how we handle it.”

Preeminent researcher Jim Marrs (Inside Job: Unmasking the 9/11 Conspiracies) also quotes author Randy Lavello, who wrote the following about Paul Isaac, Jr.: “New York firemen were very upset by what they considered a cover-up in the WTC destruction. Many other firemen knew there were bombs in the buildings,’ he said, ‘but they are afraid for their jobs to admit it because the higher-ups forbid discussion of this fact.’ Isaac, who was stationed at Engine 10 near the WTC in the late 1990s, said the higher-ups included the NYFD’s antiterrorism consultant, James Woolsey, a former CIA director. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ Isaac added.”

The above information was corroborated by Nico Haupt in the November 1, 2004 edition of 911 Skeptics where he wrote, “ explained to me that if the building had 'pancaked' as it's been called, the falling floors would have met great resistance from the steel support columns, which would have sent debris flying outward into the surrounding blocks.”

Adding further weight to this argument is Greg Szymanski’s July 21, 2005 article entitled Former Auxiliary NY Fireman Is 'A One-Man Investigative Team' When It Comes To Finding The Truth About 9/11 where the following quote appears: “When Isaac first watched the towers collapse from a block away, he said they ‘strangely came down like a house of cards, in their own footprints’ in what he called a perfect demolition job.”

Isaac also reiterated what a 9-11 survivor told me during our protest at Ground Zero on September 11, 2005 --- that emergency radios were buzzing with information about bombs being detonated inside the World Trade Center towers. Isaac told Szymanski in the above-mentioned article, “I heard some crazy things over my radio in those days, things I can’t repeat on the phone.”

Also, Isaac directly addressed the gag order placed on firemen and police officers in Szymanski’s article:
“It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,”said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11.

There is certainly more information of this nature related to Mr. Isaac on the Internet, so here again we are hearing first-hand evidence from individuals who were on the scene (i.e. William Rodriguez) saying that the World Trade Center towers were brought to their knees not by the airliner’s impact or the resulting jet fuel fires, but instead by a deliberately executed controlled demolition. Tragically, due to heavy-handed pressure from officials at the city, state, and federal levels, we are still not hearing the entire story.

Last but not least, researcher Vincent Sammartino, who was also in attendance at the WTC 'open grave site' on the afternoon of September 11, 2005, wrote the following on APFN: "I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth! Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know that 911 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing!!!!! I had tears in my eyes."
by Ken_from_Dublin on Sun Sep 17, 06 11:45am [+]

The truth will come out and there's very little that the USA government can do about it in the long run, and nothing they can do will stop it coming out internationally. Which means that people in the USA will learn as well that people outside the USA. DON'T ACCEPT THE OFFICIAL LIES.
by Lovelynice on Sun Sep 17, 06 11:31pm [+]

"Imagine a couple of small fires are supposed to have caused that!"

The classic strawman argument. The only people claiming it was small fires are the conspiracy theorists. The rest of us blame it on two catastrophic collisions with jetliners and dmage caused by falling debris AND quite large fires.
by wideheadofknowledge on Mon Sep 18, 06 2:41am [+]

"if the building had 'pancaked' as it's been called, the falling floors would have met great resistance from the steel support columns, which would have sent debris flying outward into the surrounding blocks"

Well, that's blown the official story to pieces hasn't it because they never claimed that pieces flew off severly damaging most of the surronding buildings.... oh wait a minute.

This quote supports the reality of what happened. Debris falling outwards damaged many nearby buildings. One of them fell down I seem to recall.
by wideheadofknowledge on Mon Sep 18, 06 2:45am [+]

I see Ken ignored the following quote...

"At this point, the fire was going virtually on every floor, heavy fire and smoke"
by wolf_nipple_chips on Mon Sep 18, 06 5:17am [+]

He has also ignored the links and comments on my user page.

I mean you can actually see the smoke pouring from the building.
by wideheadofknowledge on Mon Sep 18, 06 5:30am [+]

^^^ Oh this it such nonsense! ^^^
No, you can really see the smoke comig from the two real raging infernos BEHIND WTC 7, from WTC 5 & 6.

That thick smoke isn't coming from WTC 7, it's coming from the very real infernos burning in WTC 5 and WTC 6 behind it. This is WTC 5 on the left with raging fires, WTC 7 is on the right


Here is another picture of WTC 5


So the two buildings which really had very visible infernos - yet did not collapse. Unlike the obvious controlled demolition of WTC 7.

These small fires on only two floors of WTC 7 are most definitely NOT huge raging infernos.


It's not just Larry Silverstein's accidental admission about the buildings being "pulled", there are many firemen who have since come forward and said the same thing.

When Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary he stated, “I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.”

Mr. McQuillan later claimed that by “it,” Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building.

But "It" does not refer to firefighters. If they were referring to firefighters, the word would be "them" not "it". If the firefighters were referring to themselves, they would use "us", but definitely not "It".

Despite the lies of Mr. McQuillan, and the later change of story by Larry Silverstein, and the silly lies on the debunking911 blog site, the real problem with their lying change of story is that there were no firefighters in WTC 7.

In WTC 7, "No manual firefighting actions were taken by FDNY." (FEMA Report) QUOTE - "WTC 7 collapsed approximately 7 hours after the collapse of WTC 1. Preliminary indications were that, due to lack of water, no manual firefighting actions were taken by FDNY."
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Tue Aug 21, 07 2:13am [+]

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