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COMMENTS:
An Irish company threw down the gauntlet on Friday to the worldwide scientific community to test a technology it has developed that it claims produces free energy.
The company, Steorn (steorn. net), says its discovery is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy -- a concept that challenges one of the basic rules of physics.
It claims the technology can be used to supply energy for virtually all devices, from mobile phones to cars.
Steorn issued its challenge through an advertisement in the Economist magazine this week quoting Ireland's Nobel prize-winning author George Bernard Shaw who said that "all great truths begin as blasphemies".
Sean McCarthy, Steorn's chief executive officer, said they had issued the challenge for 12 physicists to rigorously test the technology so it can be developed.
"What we have developed is a way to construct magnetic fields so that when you travel round the magnetic fields, starting and stopping at the same position, you have gained energy," McCarthy said.
"The energy isn't being converted from any other source such as the energy within the magnet. It's literally created. Once the technology operates it provides a constant stream of clean energy," he told Ireland's RTE radio.
McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on".
One of the basic principles of physics is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change form.
McCarthy said a big obstacle to overcome was the disbelief that what they had developed was even possible.
"For the first six months that we looked at it we literally didn't believe it ourselves. Over the last three years it had been rigorously tested in our own laboratories, in independent laboratories and so on," he said.
"But we have been unable to get significant scientific interest in it. We have had scientists come in, test it and, off the record, they are quite happy to admit that it works.
"But for us to be able to commercialise this and put this into peoples' lives we need credible, academic validation in the public domain and hence the challenge," McCarthy said.
Voted : Possibly
Maybe it's not energy from our spectrum, dimension.
Sounds like a perpetual motion machine to me. Interesting that the only scientists they will let examine this are ones they have picked themselves.
I've been eagerly awaiting follow-up info on this. Seems impossible ... I suspect a 'math error' somewhere or unidentified source, but still ... even if this is true, it could usher in a new era of cheap energy.
Perhaps ...
"...Interesting that the only scientists they will let examine this are ones they have picked themselves."
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD
Where did you hear that Fiddle?
This has nothing to do with the 9/11 inside job so you can relax okay?
So where did you read or hear they picked the scientists themselves?
You're credibility is on the line here so you better be able to back your claims up.
"The next stage is to go through the applications and validate the information that we have been presented with. That will enable us to select a jury of 12 of the world's best-qualified scientists who are prepared to test the technology and publish their findings to the world, whatever those findings turn out to be."
Pure Energy System Network
Steorn Watch website interview with Steorn CEO Sean McCarthy
Q: Hello?? How close are you to picking the jury of 12?
Sean_McCarthy: Of the 3000 people who have asked to test to date it would seem that circa 50 have qualifications.
The ad, which appeared in last week's issue of The Economist, challenges the scientific community to debunk the company's findings. The company is seeking 12 of "the most qualified and the most cynical" scientists to test its technology and report their findings.
ABC News
A few weeks ago, an Irish company called Steorn took out a full-page ad in The Economist, announcing that they were looking for scientists to test a new technology they have developed that can create energy from magnetic fields. They received responses from over 3000 scientists and are soon to choose 12 of the respondents to rigorously test their creation.
Tech News
Meanwhile, plenty of scientists appear to be lining up to put Steorn's claims to the test. The company claims that more than 3,000 have already applied to put its "free energy"device through rigorous testing: it has set a closing date of September 8, after which 12 will be invited to test the equipment.
Guardian UK
I can give you more.
Do you know what business steorn is in: They specialize in developing technology to prevent counterfeiting and fraud in the plastic card and optical disc industries.
BTW, neither the US or UK will issue a patent on articles or processes alleged to operate in a manner clearly contrary to well-established physical laws. The laws specifically deal with "perpetual motion machines".
I'll believe it when it is proved. This sounds a bit like the announcement of achieving cold fusion. The only free energy that I am aware of comes from the sun.
The Pure Energy Systems quote is from Sean McCarthy CEO of Steorn. It was part of an interview.
The best way to validate their claim is to submit it to a peer reviewed journal rather than a jury that they select. That is ordinarily how things are done (peer reviewed journals). That would enable large numbers of scientists to read about it and replicate any results that are claimed.
"Interesting that the only scientists they will let examine this are ones they have picked themselves."
That sounds like how the Bush Administration handles scientific matters.
"The next stage is to go through the applications and validate the information that we have been presented with. That will enable us to select a jury of 12 of the world's best-qualified scientists who are prepared to test the technology and publish their findings to the world, whatever those findings turn out to be."
Pure Energy System Network
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD (Yes - and?....) - Ken
Steorn Watch website interview with Steorn CEO Sean McCarthy
Steorn Watch website interview with Steorn CEO Sean McCarthy
Q: Hello?? How close are you to picking the jury of 12?
Sean_McCarthy: Of the 3000 people who have asked to test to date it would seem that circa 50 have qualifications.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD (still waiting....) - Ken
Meanwhile, plenty of scientists appear to be lining up to put Steorn's claims to the test. The company claims that more than 3,000 have already applied to put its "free energy" device through rigorous testing: it has set a closing date of September 8, after which 12 will be invited to test the equipment.
Guardian UK
(So what?...they are inviting - not 'picking')
The ad, which appeared in last week's issue of The Economist, challenges the scientific community to debunk the company's findings.
The company is seeking 12 of "the most qualified and the most cynical" scientists to test its technology and report their findings.
(Exactly! What's your point Fiddle) - Ken
ABC News
I can give you more. (you haven't given me anything yet! Don't flatter yourself - only confirmed what I stated in my ballot)
Do you know what business steorn is in: They specialize in developing technology to prevent counterfeiting and fraud in the plastic card and optical disc industries.
( Yes, so what? -McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on".) -Ken
Your credibility has failed the test Fiddle, you have failed miserably to back your claims up - and not for the first time on this website, so I'm not in the least surprised.
It sounds like it'll change our lives like the Segway did.
That was an American invention wasn't it?
Is yours still in the closet with you?
Ken... apparently you can't read. The news items specifically state things like "we will select" or "pick".
PICKING OR SELECTING SCIENTIST TO TEST YOUR RESEARCH IS NOT THE WAY LEGITIMATE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH IS DONE. I'm not surprised that you are not aware of this because of the way you fall for every 9/11 theory that comes your way. Legitimate research involves the scientist doing to the research to publish that research in a PEER REVIEWED journal so that other scientists can review it. They can also examine the methodology and attempt to replicate it. It is also published in a journal so that other scientists can review it to see if some intentional or inadvertent bias was introduced into the testing.
It is not accepted as a real scientific advance unless the experiment can be replicated easily and that the methodology is deemed to be good.
"Your credibility has failed the test Fiddle, you have failed miserably to back your claims up - and not for the first time on this website, so I'm not in the least surprised."
YEAH RIGHT. I picked quotes that stated EXACTLY WHAT I CLAIMED. You reposted them ignoring the very words contained in them.
Try taking off you tin foil hat ken. You are a sucker for every nonsense idea that comes your way. I really feel sorry for you.
Really.... learn a little bit about science... it might help you.
I'm also done with your ballots. It is like debating a rock.
^Ken:
How did you get so lucky?
Exactly Cranky! LOL!
Do you know what business steorn is in: They specialize in developing technology to prevent counterfeiting and fraud in the plastic card and optical disc industries. - Fiddle
( Yes, so what? -McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on".) -Ken
Your credibility has failed the test Fiddle, you have failed miserably to back your claims up - and not for the first time on this website, so I'm not in the least surprised.
For your information fiddle,
the company have hired one of the most expensive PR companies in the world to manage this launch. They have spent over 100k on an ad in the Economist to attract qualified scientists to test the technology and will cover all costs associated with the independent validation.
Steorn is making three claims for its technology:
The technology has a coefficient of performance greater than 100%.
The operation of the technology (i.e. the creation of energy) is not derived from the degradation of its component parts.
There is no identifiable environmental source of the energy (as might be witnessed by a cooling of ambient air temperature).
The sum of these claims is that our technology creates free energy.
This represents a significant challenge to our current understanding of the universe and clearly such claims require independent validation from credible third parties. During 2005 Steorn embarked on a process of independent validation and approached a wide selection of academic institutions. The vast majority of these institutions refused to even look at the technology, however several did. Those who were prepared to complete testing have all confirmed our claims; however none will publicly go on record.
In early 2006 Steorn decided to seek validation from the scientific community in a more public forum, and as a result have published the challenge in The Economist. The company is seeking a jury of twelve qualified experimental physicists to define the tests required, the test centres to be used, monitor the analysis and then publish the results.
Steorn has decided to publish its challenge in The Economist because of the breadth of its readership. "We chose it over a purely scientific magazine simply because we want to make the general public aware that this process is about to commence and to generate public support, awareness, interest etc for what we are doing."
And I don't claim to believe this - I'm as sceptical as the next person. GEDDIT?
You see Fiddle you are just jealous - if this was a an American company chances are you'd be on here raving about it.
I'm also done with your ballots. It is like debating a rock. - Fiddle
It's like debating a rock?
How long have you been debating with rocks Fiddle?
Ken:
Be a little sensitive, those are the only debates Fiddle wins.
^^LOL!
Voted : Possibly
Careful, I smell "Operation Patty Energy Freedom" coming on!
by MO_ on Sun Sep 17, 06 11:32am
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Voted : Yes
I can make a case for this being real enough, based on the research I've been doing into the Theory of Everything. Everything's relative, so the energy force would simply be changing its group state, magnetic/nuclear to electric.
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