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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes, it's torture
And, to anyone who says it's not, send me the address of someone you care about, and let's run a little experiment...
Voted : Yes, it's torture
Of course it is. What else could it be? Gentle punishment?
how dare you two contradict the president of United States of America.
if he says it's not torture, it's not torture! You wouldn't want him to come after you now, would you?
by LCD on Mon Sep 18, 06 1:11pm
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Voted : Yes, it's torture
It's torture, pure and simple.
Bad Bush, Bad Bush!
Not according to the Justice Department.
In the Justice Department's view -- contained in a 50-page document signed by Assistant Attorney General Jay S. Bybee and obtained by The Washington Post -- inflicting moderate or fleeting pain does not necessarily constitute torture. Torture, the memo says, "must be equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death."
By contrast, the Army's Field Manual 34-52, titled "Intelligence Interrogations," sets more restrictive rules. For example, the Army prohibits pain induced by chemicals or bondage; forcing an individual to stand, sit or kneel in abnormal positions for prolonged periods of time; and food deprivation. Under mental torture, the Army prohibits mock executions, sleep deprivation and chemically induced psychosis.
What's you're opinion Closet -
does 'forcing prisoners to stand for 40 hours, depriving them of sleep
use of the "cold cell," in which the prisoner is left naked in a cell kept near 50 degrees and doused with cold water.'
- constitute torture to you?
'yes' or 'no'?
^^^Note - to YOU closet - not the justice department.
Voted : Yes, it's torture
Yep
Of course it's torture. The Justice Department is playing with the definition to avoid calls for war crimes. I love the fact that they include death as part of torture. What a joke.
Voted : Yes, it's torture
Of course it's torture. The Justice Department is playing with the definition to avoid calls for war crimes (even though they've already been committed). I love the fact that they include death as part of torture. What a joke.
Voted : Yes, it's torture
Yes.
This is going to sound bad, but I have to say that these methods would qualify for the more "moderate" area of the suffering spectrum--relative to other methods such as breaking bones, electrocution, injecting water under the skin so that it bursts, etc...
The reason why I make the distinction is because I am against the latter 100% of the time, while I might condone "less severe" methods (perhaps less severe than the examples mentioned in the ballots) of torture in the MOST EXTREME cases.
I don't mean to sound dispassionate about inflicting pain and suffering on another human being, but I'd be lying if I said I couldn't envision any situation where employing the "less severe" techniques of torture in an attempt to extract information would be more right than wrong.
I'm well aware of the slippery slope here. Maybe you have to be completely opposed to deliberately inflicting any sort of mental or physical duress on people 100% of the time -- or assume the opposite position.
Voted : No, it's not torture
Sounds like boot camp.
Compared to what the terrorist animals do, those things are like a hang nail.
^Just because someone else does it doesn't make it OK, though.
Bostonian: Nice to see we have standards.
Seriously, being 'better than the terrorists' is not a sufficient standard.
It's horrific to witness the baseness of humanity manifesting itself here in Bostonian and LCB, failing to grasp that all of these innocent civilian hostages were kidnapped by gangs on the streets of Baghdad and Kabul and sold to the US army for sums of up to thirty thousand dollars.
Even if they were terrorists they fail to understand that their words of approval are effectively words of approval to the same torture methods being perpetrated against American soldiers.
You guys are sick.
Voted : Yes, it's torture
But it all depends how bad they deserve it, some of them do much worse and deserve just punishment. IMO
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